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The following new members signed on with the SAA in January 2010;

ex EMCS Kent Weekly - Murrigta California, USA.  Partner Lorena.  Served on USS Bonefish 74/76 and 84/87, USS Grayback 76/81 and DSV-3 Turtle 88/91.  On Bonefish in '75 when host to Otway at RIMPAC.

Join the SAA. Remember, the more Members the more the policy makers in Canberra listen, there is strength in numbers. Details on SAA Membership are provided on the Application Form

WHY ARE THERE NO NEW MEMBERS???? ASK FOR DETAILS NOW, DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!

Birthdays
The following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a Birthday. 

Aquarius
Jan 21st - Feb 19th
You have an inventive mind and are inclined to progressive.  Unlike all the other losers out there, you are without fault.  You are the closest that our Creator ever got to perfection. All Aquarians are capable of walking on water! You should feel honoured if considered a friend of an Aquarian.

Pisces
Feb 20th -Mar 19th
You have a weird sense of imagination and often think you are being followed by aliens.  You have a minor influence on your friends and people resent you for flaunting this imaginary power.  You lack confidence and smell funny.

Why isn't my Birthday here? I hear this often, the answer is simple, I either don't like you or I rely on Plaxo to help me manage the almost 1300 people in Up Periscope's mailing list and you are not using it.  So if you want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next time I send an update request.

February
1st: Paul Woodhams, Paul Haywood, Richard Coathup, Pat Heffernan & Carl Smith
2nd: Sean Kenney, Tony Noakes, Michael Stanley & Brett Hughes
4th: Ken Horn, John McCormack & Gordon Smith
6th: Allen Francis, Tony Hollis & Lindsay Frost
7th: Tony Bernhagen & Mark Oliver
8th: Jim Mullins, Richard Coathup & Keith Broomfield
9th: Daryl Walsh
10th: Terry Gowling & Garry Hollas
11th: Pat Heffernan & Jamie Arnold
12th: Ross Mackinnon, Robert Brownlie, Cheryl Seib & Bob James
13th: Tony Phelan & Chris Rubly
14th: Michael Kelly & Glenn Feige
15th: Greg Wyatt, Rod Charles, Les Rawson, Bill Whelan & Bob Ashmore
16th: Matt Young & Greg Wyatt
17th: Paul Summers
18th: Terry Rowell
19th: David Stanton, Gary McGinn, Jim Blunt, Pat Hawkins, Gary Davis & Michael Holt
20th: Phil Watts & William Lawton
21st: Keith Bromfield, Ken Morton, Richard Lewin & Ray Gissing
22nd: Paul Newman, Reg Livermore, Tony Critchley, Sandy Freeleagus & Joseph Knowles
23rd: Robert Madden
24th: Ross Walters, Christopher Donald & Bill Clayton
26th: Gregory Pennicuik,
27th: Bob Mellowship, Tim Bowra & Neil Forbes
28th: Peter Chegwidden

 

Birthday Calculator.   After you've finished reading the info, click again, and see what the moon looked like the night you were born.

Sick Bay
There are many of our mates that have been, or are, suffering from a range of medical problems and I know that the thoughts of the submarine community go out to them and their families during these trying times.

    Trevor Lewis - dementia Bob Bobilak - asbestosis.
Graeme Porzucek - asbestosis Malcolm Campbell - dementia Mike Barnes - prostate cancer Eric Armstrong - cancer
Merv Kidd - asbestosis Mike Shepherd - prostate Bill Burgess - prostate And to all those with PTSD
Ken Robinson - cancer Tid Currie - cancer Ken Robinson - cancer Norm Williams - cancer

Sunday, 7th January 2010

I hate computers.  After finally sorting out Vista my upgrade to Windows 7 arrived and was keen to load it.  A BIG mistake!!!! I find it more complicated than Vista, it does NOT solve the problem of running software that would run in Professional and not in Vista and to make it worse, no longer runs Mail, had to revert to using outlook.  So I am still up for a new copy of Adobe so I can publish pdf documents, a new scanner because Cannon do not have a driver for Windows 7 and a replacement for Photoshop.  Maybe it is cheaper to buy a new Mac.

Today started off bad, woke up to find that the effects of radiation treatment are starting to show, my arm is covered in blisters and weeping like a baby.  I was told to expect it, nut I am a wimp and the stinging and itch is driving me crazy!  Cannot scratch as it removes skin, painkillers are helping a bit, but I think that I will be in the pool a lot today.  Another three weeks of treatment and it will be well and truly cooked.........

At least it is raining, too heavy to go out and mow the lawns, so I am free to spend the day doing The Log. The humidity has finally dropped and I have even turned the fans off, it has been very hot and humid for over a month. 

The rain has got the wildlife on the move, frogs and insects everywhere.  Unfortunately, so are the Joe Blakes, seen a few lurking around this week.

I am glad to see that some people are taking heed.  This was received from Keith Broomfield this week. "I recently had a real cancer scare that had me worrying through December (including Christmas) that I had cancer. Very many thanks to your (and others) input into reacting quickly and responsibly on detecting nasties in the body - I did just that on discovering a lump on the muscle at right rear shoulder - it was off to the doctors at 2100 one night and had an urgent ultrasound the next morning. My good doctor (and family friend) pulled strings and had me booked in for a MRI the next week followed by a visit to a specialist surgeon also in the same week - but on the Friday."

"The consensus was that I had a Sarcoma (a form of cancer). Luckily for me his fiancé was a cancer specialist at Westmead Hospital and he arranged for me to attend on the following Monday (without an appointment), Also arranged was a biopsy prior to the visit. I was astounded by the speed of action and felt completely humbled by the devout attention of these wonderful people. This then was Christmas week and I can tell you that falling ill at Christmas time is not a good time of the year to do it. The biopsy results would take 3 days so the specialists could only concur with the diagnosis and had me returning on the 29th. They booked me in for a CT scan the next day. So here was Christmas and I had the worry of cancer and the spread of the same throughout the body albeit I had the CT scan results at hand but refused to spoil our Christmas by looking at the results."

"Anyway, the following specialist visit showed that I did not have cancer and that it was a sever muscle trauma probably attributed to my extreme 'healthy' exercise. I had a subsequent MRI last week that confirmed the trauma had shrunk and was nearly gone with the exception of the pain which should diminish over time."

"SO thanks to the information that you have promulgated, I endorse your warnings to act fast - don't leave it to a later date convincing yourself that it will go away. As you can see above some miracles occur and I for one have shown my thanks to those higher up in the greater beyond. One thing that I must stress and I am amazed at how I managed the worry is that I did remain as calm as I could under the circumstances - this is really important. I now manage meditation each day and 30 minutes of calm is no effort at all. I am now a changed man as a result of this hiccup in life."  Scarpa was lucky, but I understand how the wait must have been for him and his family.  My sarcoma, a Pleomorphic Liposarcoma is rare and a search on Google did not help.  Fortunately the Specialist has confidence in the long term outcomes. 

My damaged finger that was attacked by a young parrot saved by Niggs is much better thank you. The bird has rested and recuperated, thanks to the care and attention paid to it by Niggs and has been let free.

Had dinner with my 90 year old neighbour this week and he was reminiscing about the Good Old Days..... "When I was a young bloke, my Mum would send me down to the corner store with ten bob, and I'd come back with five pounds of potatoes, two loaves of bread, three pint of milk, a pound of cheese, a packet of tea, and half a dozen eggs."  He though for a while and then said: "You can't do that now mate, too many bloody security cameras."

Gotta go, a lot to do and it's getting late!


SUBMARINE ASSOCIATION AUSTRALIA News

I was not flooded with volunteers for the item I posted last week about AVADSC.  Surely there is someone out there?

The Association is a Member of the Australian Veterans and Defence Services Council “AVADSC" but our involvement has not been as active as it should be in the past, so we are looking for a volunteer from NSW to become the Association's representative on the Council. The  National Council meets in Sydney once a month and, if necessary, more often with Special Meetings. Each Member Association has the entitlement of two councilors' and may bring along observers to any meeting.  The overall object boils down to discussion and action at any meetings on matters of veterans' affairs (including Allied Forces and Mariners), Repatriation and Defence Forces' benefits, among other matters.  AVADSC does not voice any other views on e.g. politics, immigration, defence, etc. and details are available on the AVADSC website.  The position (s) would be ideal for retirees with an interest in veteran's affairs.  Contact me for more information.

National Secretary

The following are upcoming Association events, full details of future SAA Events are available in the Events page at www.submarinesaustralia.com.

Date and Time State Event Remarks
14th February - 1200 SA Social Meeting Birkenhead Tavern 1200 for 1230. Contact Connie Francis
21st February - 1100 NSW General Meeting City of Sydney RSL Club, George St. Contact
21st February VIC Social Event

Social gathering BBQ at Alan and Lorraine Cooper’s. Contact Keith Hatfield for details.

28th February - 1100 WA General Meeting Opening Meeting and social for the year. Join us for Lunch by the river at the Swan Yacht Club.  Contact Paul Meakin for details.
14th March 1200 WA Social - BBQ Join us for Lunch in the Park.  Contact Paul Meakin for details.
21st March - 1100  NSW General Meeting & BBQ Spectacle Island - TBC
21st March - 1200  VIC Annual General Meeting

Venue: ESU. Committee meet 11am. Items for Business to Secretary 14 days prior. Contact Keith Hatfield for details.

JANUARY EDITION OF "IN DEPTH" IS NOW ONLINE AND HARD COPIES ON THEIR WAY TO NO COMPUTER LITERATE MEMBERS BY SNAIL MAIL.

AROUND THE TRAPs 

Terry ’Coyote’ Wyatt reports “After all these years a doctor has finally straightened my nose out. He packed my nose with COCAIN for 30 mins before zapping it, what a difference its has made to my life style, I am not coughing and enjoy eating again. If my old COXN off Onslow, Darkie Henwood, was around he could park those two extra Gold Nuggets in my nose (we would get in the mess in TERROR and his plan to get rich was to smuggle Gold nuggets in my nose). I have no idea where Darkie is today, but a chap I met the other day reminded me that you and I also served with Darkie’s brother, an LEM on GASCOYNE - equally as crazy.

Terry continued “I was recently invited, along with my RSL Sub Branch, to attend a meeting at Cairns RSL. The subject was Day Cclubs , presented by contractors to DVA, on how to set up and run a Day club using a model on a Gold Coast model. These two ladies raved on how good they were and how a nice man, Ken Chilvers, was doing a great job (Congrats Ken). The RSL News in Queenland also had a story about it”

Terry continued “I see Jim Moon’s name popping up of late, one of the funniest MOBIES I have ever go to sea with, non stop laughter. Except for one night in Singapore, the Outside Wrecker (Big Doug Elliott) had a long hot hard day, off the bus a few coldies up for a wash early to bed early start. All was well till 2130 when the MOBIE Olympics started in the next cabin, the game was to get a cane chair onto the ceiling fan and see how many rotations. Ringleader was James Moon. This went on for a while till Doug got up, a few quiet words were said and all went quiet. Jim, who liked Doug, kept out of his way next day, but by bar time all was forgiven, its the only time Jim was quiet.”

Baz Jenkins this link to a documentary about the Kursk. It is quite long but very good.


Tony Thomas of Chichester, UK  writes "I served in the R.N. from 1960-82 (not as a "proper" Submariner, but I did do several trips "up north" as a submarine rider), and in 1966 first met up with one Wayne Franklin Joe ("Bomber") WELLS and served with him in Hong Kong. In the early '70's he transferred to the R.A.N. About 5 years ago I heard that he had passed away, but had no idea where or when this had happened. As it seems very likely that he is the "WOEW WFJ WELLS" listed on your Eternal Patrol page, is there any way of getting any further details?  Incidentally, I believe that there is a Lt. Cdr. "Bob" HOPE currently serving in the RAN. Submarine Service. Well, in 1981-82 he was a Killick in the R.N., and I was training him to be a CT. It's good to know he's done so well!!"  I have forwarded Tony's email to Karina.  A lot of RNrs that change over to the RAN do well, probably our training.

Another UK visitor, Graham Quarterman, asks "My father has his 80 birthday coming up. He served in the submarines during the years 1946-1955 the boats he served in were HMS Alliance, HMS Ambush, HMS Totem, HMS Thorough and HMS Sanquine. We (family) hope that your association may know some submariners that served in these boats that may like to get in touch hope you can help (his name was Francis Henry Thomas Quarterman - nickname Frank)."  I have lots of Members that served on these boats in my records, if you can help please contact Graham.

While a third, Lindsay Heron, asks "I am looking for Colin Hankin, possibly now living Indonesia or Thailand, whom I last met in 1964 at the Inauguration of the Sydney Submarine Base Naval Ball.  I was a £10 Pom at that time. It would be good to get back in touch if you have his contact details. He used to live in our house before my parents bought it from his folks way back....... I know he wrote an email o the Maritime Museum when it opened wishing he had been able to get to Australia to celebrate that time....sadly was unable to.  Have lost all contact with him and it would be great if your able to pass this on."


Gary "Annie" Oakley is after help with a document he has to write for the AWM for it's 'Wartime' magazine. He asks "I have to write something about going on a patrol on an O Boat. It’s not to be written in the first person but an overview of what happens on patrol, daily routines, what happens in the various compartments when closed up, what you wear, eat how you spend your time, how you feel etc. Plus I need some photos of submariners on watch dived etc (preferably taken while on patrol). I need info across the board from all branches and ranks, unfortunately I have a very limited time frame to complete this as I was only asked to do it yesterday and have to have the document up for editing in March."  Can you help, if so contact Gary.

Phil Solomon has had a few drop ins, Olga and Gary Payseno, not sure who would be the more destructive. "Another blowy, wet week here in the Whitsundays with four boats ending up on the rocks, much better than two years ago when we had about 50 aground and wrecked. My little vessel once again survived even though she had a wild old ride at her mooring. It looked like she was on the Big Dipper as she nosed dived in and out of the swells. Strange what the big winds blow into town though. There I was minding my own business when out of the Blue (as in Sky .... not Hartridge ...... oops, and definitely not Larkin either) I receive a phone call from a mullet. Scary I know, but I'd already answered the phone so it was too late.

Eoin Asker sent an interesting article on K13, but as I do not have a pdf editor I cannot post it this week, hopefully it will be online next week. Eoin said "Still doing the weekly Sydney - Adelaide commute for AWD work, interspersed with OS trips every six weeks or so - will take a break in Aug to sail in Sardinia and Corsica (sailed Turkey and Greece in 2008 and Croatian coast in 2005)."

Who let Gary Paseno into town?? I'm sure there are rules against that somewhere?? Yep, there he was in Airlie Beach and looking for someone that would talk to him, a big ask I know!! Being the decent nice guy greenie that I am, I did my community service and had a beer or three with him. The good side was he had the smarter and better looking side of the family with him, Chantelle, so all was not lost.

Alright, enough taking the piss out of mullets (but it is sooo much fun ain't it?). It was great to catch up after all these years. I met up with Gary and Chantelle at the Sailing Club for a few brewski's after they had done the big trip out to the reef for the day and spun some warries and then ganged up on my ex-Army mate who didn't know what hit him. A day later Heather and I had them around for lunch which turned into more warries, food, drinks and. of course, Jimmy Buffett music in the Tiki Bar out in the backyard well into the evening. (see attached photo - L to R Phil, Heather, Chantelle, Gary)

The next day was their last before returning home so they went on the Rafting Adventure trip to Whitehaven Beach. Didn't get to talk to them after it as they were heading home but I'm sure Gary enjoyed getting a bit of seatime up for a change. He also learnt that the tropics aren't the best place to be in the summer months. If any of you are thinking of heading this way, make it between April and October, which is our high season. Yep, it is a bit more expensive but at least you are pretty well guaranteed good weather without the rain, heat and humidity, especially if you intend going boating and sailing. It was nice to see an old face from the Squadron and any that are in the area, get in touch. 07 49482834.

Speaking of old faces, also ran into Chris Lewis in town the other day. He has moved from Proserpine and now lives in Yeppoon. He was in town for the car racing with his big 5 litre Ford rally car on the trailer. Still same old Chris, oil covered overalls, car bits and pieces everywhere, and a big smile on the dial.

Well that's it from the Wet-Sundays for now, take care you all.

Phil Solomon - Back to the (wet) hammock."


After reading my comments about Olga last month, Graeme Draper's better half Morag commented that she knew "Olga" wasn't a threat, she had seen better blown ins at Plats.

While on the subject (sort of) about Olga, Graham 'GJ' Smith writes "When I read the line about a blow in called OLGA I thought it was going to be about the barmaid at the Kirribilli, obviously it wasn’t. Bought back a few memories though, rugby with a frozen chicken being thrown around the bar, the swear jar where some chose to put $5 on arrival to save time, the PM (Malcolm Fraser) coming in and shouting the bar and Lance Bennett not having a clue who he was.  Visited the Kirris a few years ago oh how times/things have changed!"

John Hatfield sent a warning to all that he may be off line for a while in the near future. A bug has been slowly eating away at his USB connections - told by the 'professionals' that Windows is corrupt! So, he will be wiping out, re-formatting and re-programming in the near future.  He added "Oh, an after thought - - - we went to a kids' 7th birthday party the other day and the grandfather of the little girl - Ella - commenced a conversation with "I know a submariner who lives in Canberra, his name is Tom Johnston". You could have knocked my rocks off. So, have sent Tom a message of good will, hopefully he will get it soon."   Tom, shown here looking like someone from the Village People, is King of the Kids and is known by kiddies everywhere...  maybe it was the story of his "Ho, Ho, F#@*&^g Ho" greeting when acting as Santa's helper one Christmas?

A 2007 study found that the average Australian walks about 900 miles a year.  Another study found that the average Australian drinks 22 gallons of beer a year.  That means the average Australian gets about 41 miles per gallon.  Bloody good value that!

At the recent Australian Scout Jamboree in Sydney Warren Goodall managed to get 3 of the 5 former submariners together for a pre Coffs Harbour reunion. They spent 2 weeks camping along with 14,000 other Scouts at the largest ever Jamboree held in Australia. Fortunately there was a ‘Leaders Only’ area that allowed for a couple of quiet ales.

L to R: Geoff Anderson is a Scout Leader in Sydney, Alex Paton is a District Commissioner in the Shoalhaven, and
Warren Goodall is the NSW State Commissioner for Activities.


Dear Mr Rudd

Please find below my suggestion for fixing Australia's economy.  Instead of giving billions of dollars to banks that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.  You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan.

There are about 10 million people over 50 in the workforce. - Pay them $3 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:


1) They MUST retire. Ten million job openings - Unemployment fixed.
2) They MUST buy a new Australian car. Ten million cars ordered - Car Industry fixed.
3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed.
4) They must send their kids to school/college/university - Crime Rate fixed.
5) They must buy $50 of alcohol / tobacco a week. There's your money back in duty/tax etc.

It can't get any easier than that!

P.S. If more money is needed, have all Members of Parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances.

Jim Joyce, in a drunken rage, took me to task over some comments I made in the log recently. "I have phoned you when I heard you were crook, I have sent you an email wishing you all the best. I have attempted to show you that I am a mate, when you needed a mate. For this you have held me up to ridicule by insinuating that I would waste any Sherry on Cooking."  When he sobers up I will give him a call.

Carol Wilson, the proud Nana, also took me to task over a comment that I made when I said that her granddaughter maybe a candidate for the Pakistan cricket team. She said "Just caught up with this weeks Log. At first I took umbrage of your suggestion about the Pakistan Team but after thinking about it, she may be able to help them after the 5 game whitewash by Australia, although I would rather she play for Australia. Here are a couple of pics of the girls, left to right, Samantha, Mikayla and Holley. Samantha opened the batting with Mikayla and Holley was the wicketkeeper. All 3 also played in the Under 13 Girls Molly Dive Shield grand final, representing Penrith District the following week after Toowoomba. Two weeks of solid cricket. Unfortunately they didn't win that one but you can't beat a National Title."  I have put the photo online to calm her down, angry old grannies can do a lot of harm.  Ask Kevin Marengo!

Paul Woodhams reports "I have been away in Sydney for PAC-10 at Darling Harbour. I love going to such events as you catch up with people you haven't seen for years. Submariners current and of old come out of the woodwork for such events and it's almost as good as the Friday night of a SUBCON.  It was good to see Jim Taaffe and Jon Dakers standing in their new donk shop in the Log. Same shit different day, only their overalls are a different colour. I know what you're going to say, they are greenies and never worked in the donk shop but they had to pass through it to get to the motor room remember! I ran into Jim at my local Woolworths about 6 months ago and had a good chat. They can keep the Nigerian work for themselves. Too many pirates and pieces of burnt toast with bangsticks over there for my liking!"

I understand that John Taubman is now a country based retiree "Good to hear from you, yes it seems that half the Navy (or ex Navy) lives in Wamboin, it is rural/residential and we grow rocks and kangaroos."  Never seen JT as a country dweller.  He forgot to mention the snakes, lack of services etc.

Good wines, great value! Top up now and take advantage of some great bargains?  For this week's specials go to GetWineDirect and save enough to buy heaps more, you can never have enough wine.  Please visit the website and when you place your order be sure to include the CLUB ID number to go onto your order so the SAA can claim the 5% of sales. SAA ID Number is 3558.  I have just taken delivery of my latest consignment and continue to be very impressed with the quality and price of these wines.

CPOCISSM Darren (Thommo) Thompson, VP of the SAA (WA) Branch is in Sydney for the Edinburgh Military Tattoo in Australia opening night Thursday (with Col (Wignut) Prior and friends), staying at the Crown Hotel. He said he hopes to catch up with a few people.  I wonder if he will wear the kilt that he wore while attached to the RN a few years ago?  Who's the pretty boy?

Paul Dann bought a couple of copies of Alexander Terenov's book Under Three Flags, about the Russian "Charlie " class submarine that was loaned to the Indian Navy in 1988. Alexander generously sent one extra copy for the Association and I am offering it to the highest bidder with proceeds going to the Welfare Fund.  Make me an offer.

Another book that I have received is called "Hell at Sea". Written by Naomi D. Desiderion it is a story about a woman taken prisoner by a Nazi U-Boat during WW11.  It tells the story of Mary Carlino's time as a captive onboard U115 under the command of Kapitaenleutnant Herbert Ketter in 1942. I am offering it to the highest bidder with proceeds going to the Welfare Fund.  Make me an offer.

Stuart Milburn is still on the move........ "Today I visited some Buddhist Temples in Penang. It was a wonderful winter day in Malaysia as usual. A cool 32 degrees. The names of the temples escape me but the Chinese one is very famous. The Thai has a reclining Buddha and the Burmese temple I knew nothing of because its across the road from the Thai temple. I am sure if I look at some names I can put them down but i couldn't find the auto name find with the auto fix and auto resize in the program I use for my photos. Plus I took over 650 photos today too many to check."

While sewing a cut on the hand of a 75 year-old Aussie farmer, whose hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.  Eventually the topic got around to Kevin Rudd and his role as our Prime Minister.

The old farmer said, 'Well, you know, in my opinion, Rudd is a '"Post Turtle''.

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him, what a "post turtle'" was.

The old farmer said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'.  The old farmer saw the puzzled look on the doctor's face so he continued to explain.  'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, and then you just wonder what kind of dumb bugger put him up there to begin with.


SIA members were recently invited to a presentation at Pacific 2010 on submarine diesel-electric technology by MarineForce International. Committee member Chris Skinner attended and his 'Quicklook' is forwarded below. He notes that he will prepare more detailed notes in due course.

The session was introduced by Michael Humann, Managing Director of MarineForce International [MFI], the marketing and support organisation for foreign customers of the HDW-Kockums group of companies. The session addressed the question: ‘What can German and Swedish submarine technology offer for Australia?’

The briefing was in four parts:

1. Some specific submarine technology developments – Peter Hauschildt, Director R&D Conceptual Design Project German Navy (ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, HDW)
2. Modelling and simulation tools for submarine design and production – Dr Roger Berg, R&D Manager (ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, Kockums)
3. Air Independent Propulsion [AIP] system options – Peter Hauschildt (see #1 above)
4. Submarine industry capabilities – Robert Budell, Senior Sales Executive (MFI) (previously worked for US automobile industry)

Submarine technologies described (all covered with extensive technical detail on the slides):

1. Lithium battery development
2. Flexible payloads for a wider range of missions
3. A proprietary AAW system: Interactive Defence & Attack System [IDAS]
4. Advanced rudder design (to remove swirl effect of single propeller)
5. Composite materials for propeller blades – allowing repairs and replacement of individual blades in any port without docking
6. Stealth and signature management – transmission-loss coatings (for radiated noise) and anechoic coatings for target signal strength reduction

Modelling and simulation tools for use in all stages of design and development through to verification. Some tools are locally tailored off-the-shelf tools and some are developed in-house

AIP systems described and performance or R&D results presented:

1. Closed-cycle diesel (remove CO2 from exhaust and add oxygen and inert gas to reuse)
2. Stirling cycle engine
3. Fuel cells – LOX plus H2 stored as metal hydrides
4. Fuel cells – with methanol reformer to produce H2 – under development. Methanol fuel is assumed to be widely available

Submarine industry capabilities – wide ranging discussion of the range of options from MOTS with local build to print using industry packages (equivalent to self-assembly) all the way to ab-initio design. Collins is at the penultimate stage of unique design with significant use of MOTS/COTS systems and components

The industry presentation discussed the in-country support services provided to various customers. This is being re-discussed with ASC for the Collins class.

Overall the briefing was focussed and provided extensive detail and mathematical and statistical evidence of R&D and in-service monitoring test and evaluation. A request for a copy of the slides was refused, but the same briefing could be given again at other venues and to other audiences.

A more detailed report will be provided in the next two weeks

Christopher J Skinner BSc(Eng) MEngSc MIET MIEAust MACS CPEng
email: cjskinner@acslink.net.au www.display.com.au


The SIA has developed a brochure which will be available to delegates at Pacific 2010 in Sydney. The brochure provides background information on the SIA, its committee and provides answers to 11 common questions about the Future Submarine. You can download the brochure by visiting the SIA News page. This is version 1 and we plan on keeping the brochure updated.

Frank Owen
Treasurer, Submarine Institute of Australia


HEALTH & VETERANS' MATTERS

Senate debates - Veterans Affairs -Wednesday, 3 February 2010

David Johnston (WA, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Defence)

Today I would like to address an important issue for the coalition, the opposition. It is particularly important for me and my opposition colleagues engaged in defence portfolios. I pause to commend the member for Greenway for the outstanding work in the engagement of veterans that she has undertaken whilst shadow minister for veterans affairs. Louise Markus, Bob Baldwin, Stuart Robert and I are determined and committed to the cause of equity for veterans and the ex-service community generally.

Australian veterans have been the subject of a very cruel deception by the Rudd government and by the current Minister for Veterans’ Affairs. Former members of the Australian Defence Force are of course icons within our communities and have given great service to our country - loyal service and, I might say, service which was acknowledged and very well expressed by our current Prime Minister in the Australian Labor Party’s election 2007 policy document, when he said, at page 3:

“There is perhaps no greater duty that we as a nation and as a parliament have than to honour, remember and express our gratitude to those Australians who have served in the defence of our nation …”

Those are very fine words. I now understand, as do many veterans, that when it comes to the Prime Minister and the Minister for Veterans’ Affairs it is foolish to judge them and rely upon them based upon what they have said. They must, however, be judged by what they do.  Further within the policy document of 2007 it states:

A Rudd Labor Government will provide a fresh approach to veteran’s affairs, and a fresh leadership team, which is dedicated to working in partnership with the ex-service community on the issues that concern them. Labor will work hard to achieve six goals for veterans …

And the six goals were enumerated. The first was:

To restore the value of compensation and prevent further erosion due to unfair indexation.

That was on page 3. This statement is a categorical rolled-gold promise to veterans that Labor would make positive changes to the value of their compensation and protect it from inflation and diminution from inadequate indexation.

The promises continue throughout the document. On page 5 it states:

A key concern within the veteran community is the impact of rising costs of living, and the erosion of their entitlements over time due to unfair indexation arrangements under the Howard Government.

On page 5, it further states:

To help combat this, Labor committed to index all disability pensions and the domestic component of the War Widow’s Pension to movements in the Consumer Price Index (CPI) or Male Total Average Weekly Earnings (MTAWE), whichever is the greater.

Further to this, in two press releases on 6 and 7 May 2007 the then Rudd opposition left no doubt as to their intention and promises. I have the document containing the joint statement of Kevin Rudd MP, federal Labor leader, and Alan Griffin MP, shadow minister for veterans’ affairs. In that document they say:

A Rudd Labor government will restore the value of the Special Rate Disability Pension (TPI and TTI), Intermediate Rate and the Extreme Disablement Adjustment Pensions by indexing the whole of these pensions to movements in Male Total Average Weekly Earning (MTAWE) or the Consumer Price Index (CPI), whichever is greater.

In a separate press release on 7 May Alan Griffin said:

A Federal Labor government will restore the value of the Special Rate Disability Pension (TPI and TTI), Intermediate Rate and the Extreme Disability Adjustment Pensions by indexing the whole of these pensions to movements in Male Total Average Weekly Earnings (MTAWE) or the Consumer Price Index (CPI), whichever is the greater.

So there is the encouragement.

When in opposition, the now minister criticised the Howard government for failing to release the military superannuation review. In a press release on 6 September he attacked Minister Billson. He said:

It is understood that Minister Billson has had the report since July 2007. He has since ignored calls from the ex-service community and Labor to release the report for public consideration.

This review will provide vital information for former and current defence personnel regarding the operation of the military superannuation system and how it can be improved. They are entitled to know what the review says and what the government will do about it. Instead, the government is sitting on the report.

He went on to say:

There are a number of outstanding issues relating to military superannuation, including, the indexation method for defence superannuation pensions …

And so it went on.

The point about this is that these various complaints - he made another one on 8 October - similarly complain of the delay. The delay was in fact some 10 months, which included an election and caretaker period. Minister Griffin commissioned the Matthews review of pension indexation arrangements in Australia. The minister, the same one who had attacked the Howard government for delay, sat on this report for some eight months without releasing it. The point about this is that, when in opposition, it is all very well to say these things to people - people on fixed incomes and people with disabilities, as veterans - and tell them you are going to do something about it when you are elected. You sucker them for their vote. It is absolutely no surprise that the Rudd government has reneged on these promises and postures. This has been one of the most cruel and callous betrayals of veterans in the history of public affairs in this country.

Mr Tanner, in fact, delivered the news. In his press release he said:  The Rudd Government is satisfied, after considering Mr Matthews’ report, the purpose of indexation of civilian and military superannuation pensions should continue to maintain the purchasing power of the pension.

He continued:  … we are satisfied that the CPI is the most suitable index to protect Australian Government superannuation pensions against inflationary price increases available at this time.

There is the slap in the face. Having promised them the sun and the moon, Mr Tanner says, ‘Sorry boys, we are not giving you a cracker.’

My allegation is of a serious breach of faith and trust by the Prime Minister and the Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, and this is supported by four members of the government. Indeed, they wrote to Mr Tanner disclosing their disappointment. I propose to table this document and the response from Mr Tanner. The members of the government were Mike Kelly, the member for Eden-Monaro, Bob McMullan, the member for Fraser, Kate Lundy, a senator for the ACT, and Annette Ellis, the member for Canberra. In this document these four members, having seen the Matthews report and the response to it, say to Mr Tanner that they were shocked - as shocked as veterans are, I would say, because that is what jumps out from the pages of this document. The document states:

Understandably, there is a huge disappointment in both the findings and the government response announced on the same day. It had been widely expected that the recommendations would have supported a change to the method of indexation of these pensions to that of which is high, MTAWE or CPI, consistent with the pension, following the earlier Senate and other inquiries.

It further states:

Significantly, many people genuinely believe that prior to the 2007 election the ALP had committed to determining a fairer method of indexation, and a review would provide the direction. So the immediate acceptance of the recommendation of no change in government response is being seen as a reversal of the pre-election position espoused by the ALP in the campaign material.

These are not my words. These are the words of two parliamentary secretaries, a senator and the member for Canberra getting stuck into their minister for suckering the veterans community into believing that they were honest and straight up with them when they made these promises. The document continues on from there.

I seek leave to table the letter from Kelly, McMullan, Lundy and Ellis and the reply by the Hon. Lindsay Tanner.

Leave granted.

Their deceiving veterans does not end there. On 12 September 2008 Treasurer Swan said on ABC radio in Brisbane that the DVA disability pension would be included in the Harmer review. Again, I say that it is no surprise that the disability pensions were not ultimately included in that review. Bluntly, where do these people get off making reckless statements to people on fixed incomes and disability pensions only to contemptuously fail to deliver?

What has the minister and the Rudd government actually done for veterans and their families? They have provided a massive amount of paper shuffling for lawyers, mates and academics. The government has commissioned, firstly, a review of advocacy services; secondly, a review of military compensation; thirdly, a review of Gulf War syndrome; fourthly, a review of the Clarke review - that is a nice one: a review of a review! Fifthly, the government has commissioned a review of mental health care in the ADF and beyond - the Dunk report; sixthly, an inquiry into the F111 deseal/reseal issue; seventhly, the Timor-Leste family study; and, lastly, the Prime Ministerial Advisory Council on ex-service matters with inquiries held in each capital city. So there has been this magnificent, sensational series of laser and light shows designed to make the Rudd government look interested in veterans affairs. The truth is completely and utterly the opposite. Veterans and their families have been fobbed off, deceived, misled and suckered for their vote.

This is the government which has taken Australia from a position of having $20 billion in the bank to a deficit of $48 billion this year. Almost $70,000 million has been expended in a little over two years on a $900 payment to all and sundry. School halls have been provided to schools that do not need them. Pink batts are available to every uninsulated house - and we know how well that is running. There are laptop computers and trips to Bali and Copenhagen for all and sundry, and bureaucrats and advisers-and not a cracker for veterans. We still have the $43 billion Australian Broadband Network to come, with no business plan.

Mr Tanner and Mr Rudd and Mr Griffin say that living up to the promises they gave will be too expensive. They are happy to spend everybody else’s money on everything else, including themselves. This is nothing more or less than a glib con and a betrayal of the legitimate expectations, as fuelled by the Prime Minister, of all veterans. This callous treatment of veterans fits squarely with a number of misrepresentations made before the 2007 election: ‘I’m a fiscal conservative,’ ‘I’m an economic conservative,’ and ‘We will take the Japanese whalers to the International Court of Justice.’ These were of the same ilk - representations with not a shred of intent to live up to them.

The message that I have for veterans today is that, whilst you may not have been entirely happy with the Howard government, you were not openly and cruelly deceived. You were not treated as some electoral doormat, as some gullible mob of innocent believers and victims, to be abused and suckered. We did not do that, and we will not do that.

Given the deficit and the level of borrowings of this government, it must be said that meeting the equitable resolutions that veterans seek in the reform of their entitlements indexes is now further than ever from becoming a reality. It has disappeared over the hill in the deficit style of reckless spending of this completely profligate Rudd government. The Rudd government has in fact spent all of the money - and not a cracker for veterans. My commitment and that of my colleagues is to relentlessly argue the case for these amendments if elected to government, when we would have some control over the national accounts, which I must say are now totally out of control.

A man applying for a job at a Mildura lemon grove seemed to be far too qualified for the job.  The foreman frowned and said, "I have to ask you this; have you had any actual experience in picking lemons?"

He replied: "I've been divorced three times, Bought a Pajero and I voted for Kevin Rudd."

The Chinese Threat Below
February 5, 2010:  Recently, the Taiwanese Navy detected an unidentified submarine outside one of its major naval bases. Ships and helicopters pursued the contact, but the suspected submarine left the area. A Chinese boat was suspected, mainly because for the last decade, Chinese subs have increasingly been showing up close to Japan and South Korea as well.

Two years ago, Japan increased anti-submarine patrols in international waters, just outside Japanese territorial waters. Chinese submarines were apparently exercising there more frequently, looking for Japanese, South Korean and American warships to play tag with. The U.S. has also redirected more of its space based naval search capabilities to assist the Japanese.
Chinese Song class diesel electric and Han class nuclear powered boats have been detected and tracked with increasing frequency over the last few years. In that time, one of each of these was spotted stalking the American carrier USS George Washington, as it headed to South Korea for a visit.

China is rapidly acquiring advanced submarine building capabilities, and providing money (for fuel and spare parts) to send its subs to sea more often. Moreover, new classes of boats are constantly appearing. The new Type 39A, or Yuan class, looks just like the Russian Kilo class. In the late 1990s, the Chinese began ordering Russian Kilo class subs, then one of the latest diesel-electric design available. Russia was selling new Kilos for about $200 million each, which is about half the price other Western nations sell similar boats for. The Kilos weigh 2,300 tons (surface displacement), have six torpedo tubes and a crew of 57. They are quiet, and can travel about 700 kilometers under water at a quiet speed of about five kilometers an hour. Kilos carry 18 torpedoes or SS-N-27 anti-ship missiles (with a range of 300 kilometers and launched underwater from the torpedo tubes.) The combination of quietness and cruise missiles makes Kilo very dangerous to American carriers. North Korea and Iran have also bought Kilos.

The Chinese have already built two Yuans, the second one an improvement on the first. These two boats have been at sea to try out the technology that was pilfered from the Russians. A third Yuan is under construction, and it also appears to be a bit different from the first two. The first Yuan appeared to be a copy of the early model Kilo (the model 877), while the second Yuan (referred to as a Type 39B) appeared to copy the late Kilos (model 636). The third Yuan may end up being a further evolution, or Type 39C.

Preceding the Yuans was the Type 39, or Song class. This was the first Chinese sub to have the teardrop shaped hull, and was based on the predecessor of the Kilo, the Romeo class. The Type 39A was thought to be just an improved Song, but on closer examination, especially by the Russians, it looked like a clone of the Kilos. The Yaun class also have AIP (Air Independent Propulsion), which allows non-nuclear boats to stay underwater for days at a time. China currently has 13 Song class, 12 Kilo class, two Yuan class and 25 Romeo class boats. There are only three Han class SSNs, as the Chinese are still having a lot of problems with nuclear power in subs. Despite that, the Hans are going to sea, even though they are noisy and easily detected by Western sensors.   The Strategy Page


DEFENCE NEWS

Chiming in on the 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' Debate

That’s it. I’m chiming in on the "Don’t Ask Don’t Tell" debate, because I served on a nuclear submarine with a guy who got kicked out of the Navy for being gay. His name was Chief Petty Officer Timothy McVeigh (he later became a Senior Chief) and he was a member of the crew of the USS Asheville, the Los Angeles class fast-attack submarine I first reported to in 1993. He was one of the more experienced members of our crew. He was especially respected for his knowledge of shipboard operations and ability to function in stressful situations, of which there were many.

Years after I transferred off the Asheville, I picked up a copy of USA Today and saw McVeigh on the cover. He had been outed at a base in Hawaii for being gay and was being kicked out. Read about it here and read about how he won the case here. I’m glad it worked out for him, but the whole thing still pisses me off.

McVeigh was an asset when it came to operating a submarine. He was smart, hard working, dedicated and reasonable in crazy-ass situations. Life on a submarine can be trying. There is very little sleep, and you live in a metal tube that dives thousands of feet beneath the ocean. Nuclear energy, flooding and the threat of fire are omnipresent. You sleep inches from your crew members and there is no natural light. It’s surreal and dangerous, and McVeigh had been doing it for a dozen or more years when I first met him.

But my point is this: Submarines only allow men onboard, and they spend months on end together underwater. Nobody had any problem with McVeigh while we did all this, and not only did we work together; we were proud to work with him. We looked to him for guidance, and the Navy lost that guidance when they kicked him out because he happened to love men instead of women.

I hear all of this shit about how gay people in the ranks will mess everything up. It’s bullshit. War and the military are not games. It’s about every person doing their job well and about staying alive. This “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell” debate is about machismo and homophobia — basically, soldiers and sailors and airmen don’t want to sleep next to or work with men or women with a different sexual preference than theirs. Replace the word “gay” with “black” or “Native American,” and the debate becomes offensive.

Not only that, but the powers that be say it’s about time, so maybe we’ll finally get over this ridiculous bullshit, like so many other countries have.

Niggs, leave the bird alone, it's resting!!!


ERIC’S TALES OF THE SEA
This Award Winning Comedy was the surprise hit of the Edinburgh Festival in 2009 and now, for the first time, Eric offers Australian audiences a glimpse into the life of men who live beneath the waves.

“Truly Excellent” Fringereview.co.uk
“Thrilling – A One in a Million Show” Three Weeks (UK)
“Deftly Emotional – a Wonderful Show” London Times
“Breathtaking – Thoroughly Recommended” The List (UK)

www.ericdotcom.co.uk

A gifted raconteur, Eric has a story to tell, and he tells it superbly; in fact he doesn’t just tell us, he shows us too; with the aid of some astonishing visuals we get an insider's view of the mysterious world beneath the waves in a Royal Navy Nuclear Submarine. Audiences will be transported to an underwater existence where edgy camaraderie, black humour, death and destruction are the closest of bedfellows.

Unique, riveting, funny and poignant, to call it only a comedy show simply doesn’t do it justice, as Eric takes the audience on a rollercoaster ride of laughter and emotion, that at times leaves us mesmerised and scared to breathe in case we miss something.  This is a classic buddy story, and nowhere are greater affinities formed between men, than in the harsh, unforgiving environment of a submarine on patrol in wartime conditions.                                                          

Venue: Ambassador Hotel, 107 King William St. Adelaide.     Dates: 18 Feb – 14 Mar (except 22, 26, 1 and 8) times vary
Venue: Neverwhere 185 Smith Street, Fitzroy, Victoria.          Dates: 24th March – 4th April (except 29th), Previews 24th March

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