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It is great to see that the following have made the decision and signed on as Members, why don't you do it NOW!  Deep down you know it makes sense.

Richard John (Rick) Coathup, Ferntree Gully, Victoroa
Former LSCKSM served in HMAS Otway, Oxley twice and Orion 1985 - 1993.

Kevin Robert (Mother) Farr, Port Kennedy WA
Former LSETCSM served in HMAS Onslow, Otama, Ovens and Otway 1987 - 1990

John William (Jock) Howes, partner Tanya Hartvigsen, Herston QLD
Former CPOETSSM served in HMAS Ovens, Oxley and Orion 1977 - 1986

Reginald William (Bill) Mees, partner Anne, Sawyers Valley WA
Former LSMESM served in HMS Narwhal and HMAS Onlsow 1968 - 1972

John David Morris, partner Robyn Airlie Beach QLD
Former LSUCSM served in HMS/ms Osiris, Odin and HMAS Ovens 1967 - 1973

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  HAVE YOU SIGNED ON????   IF NOT, WHY NOT.  BEING A FRIEND OF THE ASSOCIATION IS GREAT, BUT BEING A MEMBER COUNTS!!!!  2008 SUBSCRIPTIONS NOW DUE

The following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a Birthday. 
 

PISCES
Feb 20th - Mar 19th
You have a weird sense of imagination and often think you are being followed by aliens.  You have a minor influence on your friends and people resent you for flaunting this imaginary power.  You lack confidence and smell funny.

ARIES
Mar 20th - April 18th
You are practical and persistent, two qualities that make you a pain in the arse!  You have a dogged determination to finish what you start, it is a pity that you never get it right the first time.  Some people think that you are stubborn and pig-headed, but most just think you are an arsehole.

Why isn't my Birthday here? I hear this often, the answer is simple, I rely on Plaxo to help me manage the 1200 people in Up Periscope's mailing list.  So if you want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next time I send an update request.

March
1st: Royal Australian Navy & Eric Fleming
2nd: Ron Bucci
3rd: Graham Blackman
4th: Richard Gellie & Kim Pitt
5th: Graham Atkinson
6th: Brett Campany, Mike Southward & Gary Payseno
7th: Tony Wise & Eoin Asker
9th: Barry Nobes & Bill Wyatt
10th: David Nicholls
11th: Peter Clarke & James Aitken
12th: Dave Perry
13th: Mick Carew, Keith Amos, Andy Keay & Gilbert Wilson
14th: John Fisher & Max Bryant
15th: Wayne Lloyd
16th: Paul Gregg & Alan Brain
17th: Gary 'Scouse' Bromley
19th: John O'Brien & Brendan McHarg
21st: Warren Gardner & Steve Humphries
25th: Douglas Craig, Brian Mathews, Paul McCallum & Peter Carter
26th: Trevor Hillier, Ricky Roberts, Wally Whitfield & Thor Lund
27th: Sid Czabotar, Peter Price & Chris Lewis
28th: William Mitchell
29th: Bill O'Reilly
30th: Strech Vierveyzer, Michael Turnbull & Tony 'Fruitbat' Smith
31st: John Mills, Derrick Roper & Ian Prodger

April
1st: Ross (Donna?) Britton
2nd: Keith Hatfield
3rd: Stuart Prigmore, Russell Clark, Phillip Bopf & Nick Carter
5th: Vernon (or Hazel?) Hancock & Werner Pelka

Birthday Calculator.   After you've finished reading the info, click again, and see what the moon looked like the night you were born.

MARCH ISSUE OF 'IN DEPTH' AVAILABLE AT SUBMARINESAUSTRALIA>COM

Sick Parade

Mike Shepherd's wife Noraini has informed me that he was admitted to Joondalup Hospital Health Campus last Saturday and is in an induced coma. Mike collapsed a week ago. He is on dialysis and assisted breathing, his prognosis was very poor at  admittance but has improved to about 50%. Noraini is just coping with the assistance of her son from Singapore but he returns this Tuesday. She cannot drive and if anyone in WA can her to get to the hospital please contact her 08 95621621. She lives at Butler, can anyone advise?

Shipmates on health watch include:

Geoff White - Lymphoma
Colin Ware - Heart problems under investigation
Bob Ross - cancer in the pancreas and kidneys.
Don Delosa - prostate cancer.
Bob Wilson - Oesophageal, stomach and liver cancer.
Peter Vidler - Prostate and bone cancer.
Greg (Penni) Pennicuik - prostate cancer

If you want contact details for any of the above send me an email.

Sunday, 30th MARCH 2008

Their are some unkind people out there!!! Last week I mentioned that I got a scare from a green frog.  I was asked by a (ex) friend  "But don't you always grab hold of something cold and clammy and have a stroke when you wake up?"  Not nice, I was a Stoker, not a Greenie!!!.

I have received a new quote quote to have solar hot water installed, the cost $2,500, much better than the other mob's price gouging.  In addition they have offered to install a $14,000 solar power system that returns power to the power grid, thus making me a real greenie, while saving money on electricity. It only costs $1,500, the rest is subsidised by the Government.

My reputation as a dog trainer has spread through Bauple and my services are in great demand. The money's good and it keeps Boof in the manner to which he has become accustomed. I have just finished training the Pastor's dog and he is pleased with the result.  The next lesson will be how to mow the lawns.

More rain, concrete has not been poured again this week. Getting really pissed off, time to go away for a week or two to see if me being here is the reason. 

Last week I mentioned that there were exciting things happening with the task force set up by the Government to investigate the replacement for the Collins class submarine.  I said that it was the Government's intention to hold Forums soon to assist in identifying the design features to be considered.  I have had discussions with those organising the Forums and discovered that there had been a stuff up and the Association was not on the list of interested parties.  They have promised to see what can be done about this, but as the lists have been promulgated and invitations printed, it may be too late.  Watch this space.

Walk for Kids
Please go to www.walkforkidswithcancer.com to register your donation or to sponsor a walker. Bank details on website. Amount pledged as of Thursday is $16,630.85.

Around the Traps

President's Message
This week the National Executive made a decision to award Life Membership to a long serving Member of the Association who has shown immense courage and determination while suffering from incurable cancer. The Queensland Branch submitted a nominating for “Life Membership” of the SAA for Robert 'Tug' Wilson. These nominations are “normally” discussed at a Committee Meeting, prior to the AGM and presented to the AGM as a recommendation from National Committee. Unfortunately “Tugs” condition has taken a turn for the worse and the Executive took the extraordinary step of approving “Tugs” nomination. Approval of the award by Members will be ratified at the AGM.

Tug's efforts over the years to foster the aims of the Association and more recently to raise funds for Kids with Cancer demonstrates his strength of character, unselfishness and determination, traits that we would like to think existed in all submariners. And we must mention Tug's wife Carol, she has been by his side through all of this and is a real 'submariner's wife', always there when needed in times of crisis.

I ask you all, please support Tug's 'Walk for Kids with Cancer' fundraiser.

SAA BRANCH NEWS

Queensland Branch
Queensland Branch Secretary Rob Woolrych and President Barry McKeown report that there was a small gathering to-day of some of the more elderly Qld ex- submariners and their wives at the Canossa Medical Complex for a small presentation to one of our members, followed by “Tea”.  Captain George Hunt DSO*, DSC*, the Patron of Submarines Association Australia Queensland Inc presented Mr Robert Charles Wilson with “Life Membership” of Submarines Association of Australia on behalf of our SAA National President.

“Tug”, to his friends, has been a stalwart and loyal supporter of SAA Qld Inc and the SAA for many years. Today SAA Qld Inc met to honour both Tug and his wife Carol.  “Tug” is now in a state of declining health and will not be able to attend Subcon 2008 so the SAA authorised Barry McKeown to proceed with the presentation at the first available opportunity.

"Thank you “Tug” from all of us in SAA Qld Inc, for your honest unfailing support during difficult times, for your help with Subcon 2006 and other social activities, for your innovative thought in Committee and for your support of the organization over all these years both in and out of Committee. Thanks to both you, Tug and Carol for all the time and effort you as a family have put into our Association."

ANZAC Day is almost here again and we really do not need to be reminded. We have lots of good days to share but this is one day of the year that is always special. This day we ask that you make that extra effort and do the "must do" and get into Brisbane and join "THE MARCH".

The Committee is meeting this weekend and the Social arrangements we hope will be finalised there. The Coorparoo RSL always have their doors to us so that we can raise a glass or to those who have fallen in the great tradition of the Submarine Arms of all navies and raise a glass or two to each in friendship and years of service in our elite corps. I will let you all know in the near future what the arrangements are to be.

Our Patron Captain George Hunt who is now well into his 92nd year will be with us and we will be raising our glasses to him in salute to a real warrior and a nice bloke and a person who has been extremely generous to our organization. We ask that as many of you as possible come and share the day with us and if you know of any who have not been before then encourage them to come and join us. We would like ALL the submariners and ex-submariners in the area to join us on the day. We look forward to seeing you all on ANZAC Day 2007

North Queensland Branch

Secretary, Garth Schmidt writes "Just a quick message to let you know about our last North Queensland meeting held at Airlie Beach over the weekend of the 15/16 March. The meeting was well attended, but with many apologies tendered, some because of obligations in the local elections.

We renewed acquaintances at a meet and greet at the Reef Gateway Hotel at Cannonvale on the Friday night. Col Deller had arranged for a bus tour of Airlie Beach on the Saturday, culminating in a prawn and chicken picnic in a park at Schute Harbour. We let the girls loose on a very short leash at the Airlie Beach markets on the way to Schute Harbour. The surrounds for the picnic were very pleasant and the prawns plentiful and succulent. Cole Klease joined us on his thumping Harley after a long trip from Emerald.

Our meeting was held in the Cannonvale R.S.L. Club late in the afternoon followed by a BBQ dinner at the Reef Gateway. Several raffles were held and good profit made for the branch, $250 of which was sent to Tug Wilson's walk-a-thon.

The next meeting is our AGM and because of it's central location, beautiful Magnetic Island was voted as a location. It was also decided to combine a dinner show with the meeting to enhance the enjoyment and further engage the women in our activities. WATCH THIS SPACE!!!!!!!"

National ANZAC Day Arrangements
Details are being received from Branches regarding the arrangements for ANZAC Day and it is hoped that 2008 will see a big turnout of Members.  Numbers in some states have declined over the years and you are all requested to march with the Association this year.  It is a good opportunity to catch up with old mates.  Your missus can be involved too, get her to bring the kids to watch Dad march and then take them to the pictures or the beach.  It is only one day a year, she will understand!  Details are being updated on the SAA Events page as they are received, so keep checking.

Another submariner that has taken on a Web Manager's role is Ken Chilvers who is the web master of the Mudgeeraba RSL Sub-Branch. Ken said "If you go to Notice you will see an item re Tug Wilson, we intend as a sub-Branch to start the walk with Tug on 5th May. Not sure how far we will get though."  It goes to prove that us engineering types can do anything we put our mind too!

Victorian member Blue Lees has responded to Les Rawson's claims made last week. "Yes we did have a few soothing ales, it was a hot day and hard work changing brake pads/discs. I'm pretty sure that it was Les (or then again it may have been Mary) who started the farting competition, it doesn't really matter anyway as there was no way that I was going to let an RN'er win a farting comp. Oh and by the way the car was still in the car park the next morning sitting on a jack and the wheels right were we left them."  My how things have changed, I bet the tyres would have disappeared if it happened today.

Karen Money, the widow of Dennis, is trying to contact Richard Treasure. He joined up with Dennis on 14th March 1963 and she has tried almost every avenue to find him but as yet have been unsuccessful. If you can help, please contact me.

WA's walking disaster (or should I say limping?), Roger Hardwicke, is almost back on his feet again after suffering complications with his hip operation. He writes "Nearly all up and running now, new hip is going good. I think they put in Graphite Grease instead of LG280. Ended up with an infection requiring  multiple antibiotics and pain killers (ha ha they gave me morphine injection only bad side is trying to pass CLUMP BLOCKS). But now seem to have passed the dark side only need a walking stick."  Poor Denice, I can only imagine what a terrible patient he must be.  Submariner's wives are worth more money!!!

Positive thought for the day: When you feel that nobody loves you, Nobody cares for you,  Everyone is ignoring you, You should really ask yourself...... Am I a dickhead?

Some people never quit!  Jim Green has been going to retire every time I spoke to him in WA and yet I see he is currently in Singapore for 10 weeks
or so working on the tie in of a step out for Donghae field in Korea.  don't ask, I don't know what it means either?

Victorian wild life expert Keith 'Boot' Hatfield remarked "Bung, noted with interest your comments on the little brown neighbour who dropped in on you. Tell you a little ditty about our next door neighbour. While they were out one weekend he asked me to check on his house. We came home to see three men on his roof - 2 coppers and a snake catcher !!  Apparently a Tiger snake had climbed up the trellis and was happily engaging itself to get under the eaves!! Anyway, they couldn't catch it and when the snake catcher asked who was paying him, the coppers said "Not us" and I said "Not us", so he promptly left !! The coppers climbed down and the snake was left to its own devices. Just shows you, you can live upstairs and still get those little visitors popping in on you unexpectedly. - - - -True story. I know you enjoy these snake dittys. Love the pic of the three hillbillies - talk about Elmur Fud !! Have you gone THAT native??"  Yes Boot, gone feral.  It is a bit like being a submariner living in the country, no-one cares if you don't wash and you can always blame the lack of water if you are a bit whiffy.

North Queensland is on standby for Cyclone Donald. Don 'Titch' Parsons was after a contact number  for Dave 'Goldie' Horne. He added "I am taking my son to Cairns and Port Douglas on the 17th April. Do we have any mates up there?"  Not sure about the "we" bit Titch, but I do!  This photo, taken at SUBCON 2006 is a reminder to anyone that may be considering meeting up with him on his visit.  If you are still game, contact Titch to catch up with old times during his visit.

Dave (Goldie) Horne returned home to Cairns from Greenslopes Private Hospital, Brisbane after successful surgery to install more electrodes around the spinal cord last week. This brings to a total of 10 the number of electrodes, and an additional power pack controller (implant) was added. Goldie would like to thank the Pain Clinic at Greenslopes as well as the Staff at Medtronic, the suppliers of the equipment. Goldie appreciated the phone calls while he was in hospital.

"Bloody Submariners!" exclaimed Terry Parsons "We always seem to create the most memorable memories for all that we come into contact and this article by Andrew Clarke (A Man of Balance) was in the Australian Financial Review Magazine today."  As naval diplomacy goes, it may not rank with US Commodore Matthew Perry's L854 visit to Japan. But the arrival of an Australian submarine 'HMAS Otway' in the smallest African nation of Ghana in the late'60s' is not without significance' It was not so much the exotic nature of a naval visit to a black continent by a nation then largely sticking to a whites-only immigration policy that made it memorable' it was more the submarine crew's onshore antics. In honour of the visit' the Australian Embassy in Accra organised a cocktail party, held in a picturesque converted fort outside the capital. The sailors got right into it, as the saying goes, and the mood was lively by speech time. Appreciating the hospitality of the Australian ambassador to Ghana, Dick Woolcott, the sailors made him an honorary member of the crew. Then suddenly a junior officer pushed the ambassador in full regalia into the swimming pool.  Though well known for his penchant for pranks, Dick Woolcott was not amused. He emerged from the pool, extended his hand to the officer then grabbed the burly offender in a tight lock, and threw him into the pool.  Trivial as the story may seem, for a man who habitually sups with presidents and potentates and is privy to confidential discussions on global issues from the formation of APEC (the Asia-Pacific Economic co-operation forum) to relations between China and the US, it reflects the core of Dick Woolcott: he is, above all else... I want to know who the officer was, come on guys, tell all if you were there.                       

Richard Woolcott was indeed a man of influence and while Googling his name I came up with quite a lot of information on him.  I think that he would have made a good submariner.  A reference in Woolcott’s new book Undiplomatic Activities, a collection of anecdotes from his illustrious career lying abroad for Australia (well, that is the definition of a diplomat…). The one that caught my eye concerned a onetime Australian high commissioner to South Africa at a formal reception for the prince of the Netherlands. Our diplomat, a crusty and wounded survivor of wartime combat, found himself displaced in the queue to shake the royal hand by his Swedish colleague who was wearing full regalia.  Disturbed by the ordinariness of his grey flannel suit and fuelled by a few pre-reception drinks, he lunged at the Swede's dangling scabbard demanding:  "What did you get this sword for, defending your bloody neutrality?"

AMAZING BUT TRUE

  • YOU CAN AVOID CUTTING YOURSELF WHEN SLICING VEGETABLES BY GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HOLD THE VEGETABLES WHILE YOU CHOP.

  • AVOID ARGUMENTS WITH THE FEMALES ABOUT LIFTING THE TOILET SEAT - USE THE SINK.

  • FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE SUFFERERS ~ SIMPLY CUT YOURSELF AND BLEED FOR A FEW MINUTES, THUS REDUCING THE PRESSURE ON YOUR VEINS. REMEMBER TO USE A TIMER.

  • A MOUSE TRAP PLACED ON TOP OF YOUR ALARM CLOCK WILL PREVENT YOU FROM ROLLING OVER AND GOING BACK TO SLEEP AFTER YOU HIT THE SNOOZE BUTTON.

  • IF YOU HAVE A BAD COUGH, TAKE A LARGE DOSE OF LAXATIVES. THEN YOU'LL BE AFRAID TO COUGH. 

  • YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE.

  • IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A SHIFTER AND A WHEEL SPANNER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.

  • REMEMBER - EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.

WA Branch members Jan  and Peter Watt are currently overseas on a "house swap" and I have received the following from Jan (Peter was napping I believe, poor old fella.)

"A bit of a hiccup as we left Perth en route to England. I had a bit of a fall at Perth airport and did some damage to my right foot - strained or tore something and it hurt like the dickens. Anyway, I was sure it wasn't anything serious and was determined to continue so had it packed up in ice all the way to Singapore. Luckily the flight wasn't full and I had a row of seats to myself and could stretch out and keep it elevated. They had a wheelchair waiting for me at Singapore and whisked us through customs etc. I didn't do anything while in Singapore, thinking it best to keep off it for as long as possible and continue with the ice treatment. This wheelchair gig continued on through boarding and leaving the flight to London - so no queues and waiting to go through customs and immigration - straight into the disabled gate and 'bob's your uncle'. Peter reckons that from now on, every time we fly, I should limp as it makes everything so much easier!!!

Anyway, the foot is still sore, but I can walk now and feel that it's mending OK.  We're well settled into our first exchange house here in England - in Goring on Thames - and it's just lovely. Two villages (Goring and Streatley) are on either side of the Thames in Oxfordshire, linked by a stone bridge. The river is very high though and is up over the tow paths along the riverside. We've not had good weather since arriving (apart from a couple of OK days) and for the last two days it's been snowing!!!! Nothing stays on the ground, but flurries of snow whirling outside the windows while we've hunkered down with hot soup, a good book and TV.

That's not to say we haven't been out and about - in fact we've done quite a bit in our first week here. We spent a day visiting and touring Blemheim Palace, home of the Duke of Marlborough. It's quite a pile of rocks!! We last visited about forty years ago - nothing much has changed except the number of tourists and the addition of a lovely (warm) cafe serving really excellent home made goodies. Glad we're not here in peak season though as we've never get as smooth a run as we do in this shoulder season. By the way, the daffodils are out and are just everywhere - along the roadsides, up the lanes, in the fields - so lovely.

Another day we spend time in the Cotswalds - such a pretty region with its cute villages and rolling hills. We stopped in Stow on the Wold, drove around Upper and Lower Slaughter, and had lunch in a local pub in Bourton on the Water. Again, we hadn't been to this area for about forty years and it has certainly become more commercial since our last visit. Still lovely though. Of course we've had a couple of visits down to Winchester to visit David, Nicky and the two girls. Amelia, almost three, never stops chattering and is a 'mini me' of her mum. Philippa at five months is a little doll. They are totally different in colouring and I suspect, in nature, as Pip seems a gentle soul compared to Meelie's 'bull at a gate' approach to life. Still, it's early days and time will tell.

True to form, Peter has come down with a cold and is spending a day in bed. I'm not game to make any comment as on our last visit to England when he came down with what I thought was 'man flu', it turned out to be pneumonia! So I'm being really nice and bringing him cups of tea and aspirin. Well, for a day or so anyway

I think my brother Colin is enjoying his time with us. On Friday night he went down to the Village Hall for an event called 'Goring Unplugged'. It only costs three pounds entry, you bring your own drinks, and enjoy ten acoustic acts (no amplifiers etc) from all over the place, for three hours. He said it was the best thing ever - and gave it such a rap that we might have to attend the next one if we're still here. If the weather picks up in the next week, he plans to do a bit of walking along the Ridgeway - an ancient walkway that runs near the village.

We're all off to London on 2nd April to spend a couple of days with friends up there, then on 11th April we move to our next exchange home at Banstead in Surrey. Banstead is closer to London than here, so we'll do most of our exploring of galleries and museums from that location.

So that's about it for now. I'll send another update from Banstead - and hopefully by then, we'll have some lovely spring weather.

Fairer indexation system for Department of Veterans’ Affairs war widows, widowers and disability pensioners
A fairer indexation system and a range of additional payments will deliver up to $1045 more per year for Department of Veterans’ Affairs war widows, widowers and disability pensioners, the Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, Alan Griffin, said today. “These payments and new indexation methods maintain and improve the value of veterans’ and war widows’ pensions and protect them from future erosion,” he said

General rate disability pensions will, for the first time, be indexed with reference to both the Consumer Price Index and Male Total Average Weekly Earnings. Alongside the improved indexation calculations, the base rate of all pensions at the General Rate will increase by five per cent. For example, 100 per cent General Rate recipients will receive an extra $22 a fortnight.

Extreme disability adjustment pensioners will receive an extra $15 to their base rate on top of the indexation increase, resulting in an additional $40.20 per fortnight.

The war widow’s pension will increase by $19.70 to $582.40 a fortnight, the single service pension by $9.10 to $546.80 a fortnight and the married couples rate by $7.70 to $456.80 per person per fortnight.

Wholly dependent partners’ death benefit and Special Rate Disability Pension under the Military Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 2004 have also increased in line with the latest increases under the Veterans Entitlements Act.

The new pension rates are effective from tomorrow, 20 March, and will be first paid on 27 March 2008. These increases are in addition to the increased utilities and telephone allowances paid to eligible veterans and war widows.

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'  St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.' 'Oh,' said the man, 'Whose clock is that?'
'That's Mother Theresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.'
'Incredible,' said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands havemoved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.'
'Hmmm! So where's Kevin Rudds' clock?' asked the man.
'Rudds' clock is in Jesus' office.' St. Peter replies; 'He's using it as a ceiling fan.'

Health Matters.............
We all copped quite a few doses of diesel exhaust while on boats and today's submariners still do and the increasing number of submariners suffering as a result continues to increase as time goes by. Dan Jordan sent an interesting link on the subject of pollution and I have reprinted the article in part, worth visiting the link for more details.

Exhaust Fumes Damage Your Brain
Inhaled diesel exhaust triggers a stress response in the brain. This could have damaging long-term effects on brain function in people living in areas with high traffic pollution. Small particles of soot, or nanoparticles, can travel up the nose and lodge in the brain. It is conceivable that this could interfere with normal brain function and information processing.  As it turns out, breathing polluted air over the long term not only increases your risk of dying from lung cancer or heart and lung disease, it may also increase your risk of neurodegenerative diseases such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease, according to this study.

What are You Breathing? Air pollution is produced by combustion, such as burning of gas by automobile engines and fuel burning at power plants. It consists of tiny solid and liquid particles that can be inhaled deep into your lungs as you go about your day.  Most particles are microscopic, but you can still see the haze that forms when millions of them blur the spread of sunlight.

These pollutants can cause inflammation in your lungs or prompt your body to release chemicals that can affect heart function. Although science has not been able to pin-point the exact pathway explaining how or why air pollution is so toxic to you, statistics show that as levels of fine particulates and sulfur oxide-related pollution in the environment rises, so does the death rate from lung cancer and cardiopulmonary diseases, which include heart attack, stroke, asthma, pneumonia and chronic obstructive pulmonary diseases like emphysema and bronchitis.

The differences in the sizes of the particles that make up air pollution make a big difference in how they affect you. Your natural defenses will help you cough or sneeze larger particles out of your body. But those defenses can’t defend you from smaller particles (smaller than 10 microns in diameter, or about one-seventh the diameter of a strand of human hair).  Those particles get trapped in your lungs, while the smallest are so microscopic they can actually pass through your lungs into your bloodstream, just like the essential oxygen molecules you need to survive.  And, you don’t even need long-term exposure to increase your risk of disease and premature death. Visit  the link for the full article.

Men should take a concerned look at their beer consumption. 
The National University of Lesotho scientists released the results of a recent analysis that revealed the presence of female hormones in beer. The theory is that beer contains female hormones (hops contain phytoestrogens) and that by drinking enough beer, men turn into women .  To test the theory, 100 men drank 8 pints of beer each within a 1 hour period.   It was then observed that 100% of the test subjects :

  • Argued over nothing.

  • Refused to apologize when obviously wrong.

  • Gained weight

  • Talked excessively without making sense.

  • Became overly emotional.

  • Couldn't drive.

  • Failed to think rationally.

  • Had to sit down while urinating.

No further testing was considered necessary.

HMAS Sydney - the DVD
As you are all aware the wreckage of HMAS Sydney, sunk off the West Australian coast in 1941, has at last been found. The Sydney's entire crew of 645 went down with the ship in the Indian Ocean and its location has been a mystery for 66 years. The DVD of “The Hunt for HMAS Sydney”, a documentary of this momentous discovery, will screen on ABC TV on 1st April to be followed as soon as possible by this priority DVD release.

The DVD will include the history of the Sydney and German raider Kormoran, along with interviews with bereaved family members, naval personnel, historians, and those who have made the search happen with their determination to bring closure. It will also include an animated segment showing the battle between the rival ships based on evidence gleaned from German survivors.

DVD extras have yet to be fully finalised but should include – Extended interviews and footage, Discovery photo gallery, Historical Gallery and special booklet. I will be receiving a release date shortly but at this stage anticipate an early May release.  Watch this space.

Australia's submarines - the next generation
The Labor government has announced that work needs to “begin” in defining the type of submarine that should be designed to replace the Collins class (I say “begin” as there has been consideration of this for years within Defence).

Australia is different from the vast majority of other nations operating submarines in that our geography is vast, and areas of operation (AO) of interest are many thousands of kilometres distant. Hence the former Labor Defence Minister Kim Beazley suggesting that we need to double the number of submarines we have now. This presents some challenges for our force structure planners.

Conventional submarines are compromised in two important ways. First, there is the necessity to periodically charge batteries (and replenish air) using a snort mast (snorkel) to allow air to be drawn in to run the diesel generators. In an operational sense, when in the AO, so called air independent propulsion such as fuel cells allows advanced conventional submarines to remain submerged well over a week if the speed is kept very low. In this way, the indiscretion ratio problem (the percentage of time snorting) can be significantly reduced when in the AO.

The second problem that is more critical for our region is the issue of transit speed. For a variety of reasons, conventional submarines can only transit at about 10 knots. That means getting to the closest potential AO will take more than a week from where the submarines are based at Fleet Base West, and for most AO’s it will be considerably more than that. The long transit time required (both to and from the AO) clearly indicates that a significant portion of any deployment will be “wasted” in the transit.

Submarines are being tasked to carry out more varied tasks, and Australia’s next submarines will probably need to carry land attack cruise missiles. If this were the case with the Collins, it would come at the expense of some Harpoon anti-ship missiles or heavyweight torpedoes. Additionally, these rounds would have to be fired through the torpedo tubes.

With US attack submarines, small vertical silos housing Tomahawk cruise missiles have become de rigueur since the advent of the Improved Los Angeles class submarines. Our next generation submarine will probably also need to have this arrangement to give the operational flexibility required (and to ensure that we don’t end up with a reduced weapons load in other ways compared to now). This means a larger submarine and the Collins replacement will have to become larger for reasons I have outlined.

The next generation submarine will probably also need to deploy unmanned underwater vehicles (UUV). Once again, UUV’s will take up more space, and problematically, will probably require charging of batteries from the host submarine, which will be a further drain on electrical resources.

In comparison, nuclear submarines are able to transit at 30 knots or more, therefore the submarine and its crew spend significantly greater portions of a deployment doing productive work.

Traditionally, the major operational compromises associated with nuclear submarines have been size and noise levels. First, with noise levels, the submarines have become far quieter as a result of so-called natural coolant circulation reactors, where, at slow speeds in the AO coolant pumps are not required (as was the case with conventional reactors). With size, as previously stated, conventional submarines are becoming larger by necessity.

When all these factors are taken into account, a submarine probably of the order of 5,000-6,000 tonnes, requiring a lot of power and volume (and growth potential) and a high transit speed is needed. If we were only looking at the issue from a perspective of optimising the design for operational considerations, the conclusion would have to be that the submarine should be nuclear. The high transit speed would mean a greater percentage of mission time on station, requiring fewer submarines. We are having significant problems crewing our current fleet, so anything that can be done to reduce the total number of submariners required would be welcome.

The submarine would undoubtedly cost more, and Australia would have to source the reactor from the USA (as does the UK). We could probably come to an arrangement for the US to take the powerplant back at the end of the submarine’s life (reactors no longer require a mid-life refuel). We could still design and build the submarine in Australia and just use the US reactor.  In my view, it is imperative for the government to realistically and closely evaluate the nuclear option regardless of ideological sensitivities.            By Dennis Jensen

California vintners, in the Napa Valley area, which primarily produces Pinot Blanc, Pinot Noir and Pinot Grigio wines, have developed a new hybrid grape that acts as an anti-diuretic. It is expected to reduce the number of trips older people have to make to the bathroom during the night. The new wine will be marketed as Pino More.

After 3 Years, $1 Billion Overhaul, USS Georgia Returns To Service
Georgia's governor and two U.S. senators are among the dignitaries who will attend Friday's ceremony marking the return to service of a submarine named after the state. A conversion that cost $1 billion and lasted more than three years changed the submarine from carrying nuclear missiles to one armed with conventional Tomahawk missiles and capable of delivering special forces into hostile environments.

Georgia is the last of four Ohio-class submarines to be converted. The change was necessary to comply will nuclear-disarmament treaties, but Navy officials said it also makes the submarine more suited to support of the global war on terrorism.  Each of the converted submarines has the capability to launch up to 154 Tomahawk missiles and provides enhanced intelligence-gathering capabilities.

Georgia is 560 feet long, with a 42-foot beam, 36-foot surface draft, and 18,700-ton submerged displacement.

Capt. Brian McIlvaine, a 1984 graduate of the United States Naval Academy, is the ship's commanding officer and leads a crew of approximately 164 officers and enlisted personnel.  In addition to carrying a Navy crew, the sub can also support up to 66 special ops forces.

The name Georgia first sailed onboard the confederate ironclad CSS Georgia to protect the city of Savannah. A shell from CSS Georgia sails onboard USS Georgia today.  The first USS Georgia (BB-15) was a 441-foot, 15,000-ton battleship that served from 1906 to 1920 and cruised around the world as part of President Theodore Roosevelt's "Great White Fleet" from 1907 to 1909.

Submarine rescue system completes trials off the coast of Norway
NATO's free-swimming rescue vehicle successfully hooked up with the Norwegian submarine Uredd at a depth of 87 meters in Husnes Fjord, just south of Bergen, last month.  The system, jointly owned by France, Norway and the U.K., will provide an effective rescue capability with a whole life cost of £157 million over 30 years.

In the same trials the vehicle completed a deep dive to 610 meters to demonstrate its vast capability. While not all the deep water acceptance trials were completed in full, there were enough key events for the trials to be declared a success. Trials to include testing hatch operations at depth, angled 'mating' up to 60 degrees and the ability to recover the vehicle from rough seas will take place soon.

The system, based at Faslane on the Clyde Estuary in Scotland, will be maintained on 12 hours' notice to mobilize by road and air to a mother ship. It can rescue a crew from depths of 40 to 610 meters, at angles of up to 60 degrees and with internal pressures as high as 6 bar. Though it will be fully air portable, the rescue vessel will operate in sea state 6 (5-meter high waves) and remain on station in 10-meter seas.

The vehicle is powered by advanced sodium nickel batteries with higher power-to-weight/space ratio than traditional lead-acid batteries used in current rescue vehicles. A fiber-optic umbilical will provide video, communications and a data link to the command team on the mother ship. The vehicle, designed and built by Perry Slingsby System Ltd. of Kirkbymoorside, North Yorkshire, England has a crew of two pilots and an attendant, can rescue 15 people at a time and will normally operate on a four-hour cycle.

The system comfortably survived a rough passage to Cape Wrath, in Northern Scotland, which saw 74-knot winds, 10-meter seas and 30-degree pitching. All systems operated correctly on reaching Norway. Four full mating sequences were completed, with stores being passed through the hatch of the Norwegian submarine.

Further trials are planned over the next six months. Deployment next month from the MV Argonaute provided by the French Navy will include a two-day medical exercise to test transfer and to develop casualty handling and coordination of rescuees. Air portability trials, training and other exercises will continue this summer.

Navy well-equipped to meet our needs
Outgoing Royal Malaysian Navy chief Admiral Tan Sri Ramlan Mohamed Ali is a satisfied man. He said yesterday he was happy to go into retirement knowing that the navy had completed all necessary procurements during his tenure.

Ramlan, who will retire in July after 38 years of service, said the navy had only 70 per cent of the basic hardware needed when he assumed the post in November 2006. "It is a satisfying feeling, knowing that I am leaving the service with the navy having all the equipment it needs to secure the country's waters," he said at his pre-retirement tour to the Tanjong Gelang naval base.

The navy's current assets are two submarines (yet to be delivered), frigates (two), corvettes (six), offshore patrol vessels (four), fast attack missile craft (eight), fast attack gun craft (six), minehunters (four), support ships (two), hydrographic survey ships (two), amphibious assault ship (one), training ships (three) and tugs (three).

It also has six Eurocopter AS550 Fennec helicopters and six AgustaWestland SuperLynx helicopters, equipped with the lethal Sea Skua anti-ship missiles.Most of these assets will be at the Lumut naval base on Friday as a fleet review in honour of Ramlan's retirement.

On the Scorpene submarines, Ramlan said work on the base in Teluk Sepanggar near Kota Kinabalu was on schedule and would be completed by April next year before the arrival of the first submarine, KD Tunku Abdul Rahman, two months later. The other submarine is expected to be delivered in 2010.

Come on Boof, let's pack our bags.....

Sunday, 23rd MARCH 2008

The finding of the wreck of HMAS Sydney has been good news and congratulations to all involved.  Bob Trotter has been involved for many years in the project and I am sure that he will be happy with the outcome.

Sods Law came into effect when I retired, the stock market crashes and my well planned retirement nest egg gets scrambled.  I am not crying poor, but it hurts to see a large percentage of your superannuation do a disappearing act.  I have taken to being more frugal while shopping but Boof has threatened to leave me if I but tinned dog food again.  Maybe I will adopt the financial advice sent to me this week. It said that if I had purchased $1000.00 of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00.  With Enron, I would have had $16.50 left of the original $1000.00. With WorldCom, I would have had less than $5.00 left. If I had purchased $1000 of Delta Air Lines stock you would have $49.00 left.  But, if I had purchased $1,000.00 worth of beer/wine one year ago, drank all the beer/wine, then turned in the cans/bottles for the aluminium recycling REFUND, I would have had $214.00. Based on this, the best current investment advice is to Drink heavily and recycle.

The local wildlife has been active this week, snakes, lizards, frogs and cane toads have all managed to make my heart miss a beat.  I always thought that my upstairs room would be safe from snakes, after all they are not that good at climbing.  This week I went out on to the verandah and soon realised that I was sharing it (momentarily) with brown snake about a metre long.  It seems that he had climbed the Macadamia nut tree to get a better view.  I took off in search of a broom with which to scare him away, but on my return found that he had gone?  My neighbours reckon it would have been a tree snake, the tree is coming down!

The lizards were only a mild scare, I discovered three about 12 inches long living behind the upstairs lounge when I moved it to vacuum, must be plenty of moths for them to eat. Put them out on the balcony to look for the snake.  The green frog gave me the biggest scare, I was waking up and half asleep when I reached over to get the remote to turn the TV on to get the morning news only to grab hold of something cold and clammy. It scared the crap out of me and I am sure that I almost had a stroke.

On the brighter side, a great variety of birds and butterflies are in abundance, they are beautiful and I could watch them flitter from tree to tree and flower to flower for hours.

A week of rain, concrete has not been poured this week and with rain forecast till next Thursday, probably none again this week. 

It is amazing the impact government subsidies have on things.  A while back I got a quote to have solar hot water installed, the cost $3,500.  With the recent introduction of government rebates I decided to get another quote from the same firm and was surprised that it had not changed. I queried the supplier about why the quote had not gone down and he explained that the price of the system had gone up $1,000.  I will be discussing this with the Department of Fair trading next week!

My neighbour and I have a ritual, we meet on the verandah for our daily beer to talk over the day's events. Yesterday three of his ex army mates from Gympie (another town with lots of people with two heads) turned up and joined us.  After a while the conversation turned to their wives. The1st bloke said: "My wife sure is stupid!...She bought an air conditioner." The 2nd bloke said: "Why is that stupid?" to which the1st bloke replied: "We ain't got no 'lectricity!"
Not to be outdone  the 2nd bloke said: "That's nothin'! My wife is so stupid, she bought one of them new fangled warshin ' machines!"
The1st bloke said: "Why is that so stupid?" The 2nd bloke replied: "'Cause we ain't got no plummin'!"
The 3rd bloke thought for a while and said: "That ain't nuthin'! My wife is dumber than both yer wifes put together! I was going through her purse the other day lookin' fer some change, and I found 6 condoms in thar."
Bemused, the two blokes asked: "Well, what's so dumb about that?" to which the 3rd bloke said: "She ain't got no pecker.

The neighbour is a canny old bastard and has a dam in one of the lower paddocks where he has planted mango, Macadamia and avocado trees. The dam had been fixed up for swimming when it was built and he also had some picnic tables placed there in the shade of the fruit trees. The other day he decided to go down to the dam to look it over, as he hadn't been there for a while and asked me if I wanted to go with him. I agreed and he filled an Esky with beer for us to drink by the dam. As we neared the dam, we heard voices shouting and laughing with glee. As we came closer he saw it was a bunch of youngwomen skinny-dipping in his dam. He made the women aware of our presence and they all went to the deep end.  One of the women shouted to him, "We're not coming out until you leave!" The neighbour frowned, "I didn't come down here to watch you ladies swim naked or make you get out of the dam naked." Holding the Esky up he said, "I'm here to feed the crocodile."

There are exciting things happening with the task force set up by the Government to investigate the replacement for the Collins class submarine (see article later in this entry).  It is intended to hold several forums soon that will be a gathering of interested parties to assist in identifying the design features to be considered.  Watch this space for calls for nominations to attend these Forums.

Walk for Kids
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Around the Traps

President's Message
Easter is a time of year for reflection and many of us use the Easter holidays to kick back a gear and enjoy the break with family and friends before winter really starts to bite.  I hope that you all enjoy the break without forgetting what Easter is all about.  Happy Easter to all.

Health Matters.............
This coming week is National Mental Health Care week. You can do your part by remembering to contact at least one unstable person to show you care.  Well....my job is done. Your turn!

Dan Jordan writes "With the number of cancer cases reported on the site you may want to put this link in the Log for information. The site,  Cancer Tutor gives advice on natural or alternative cancer treatments as opposed to orthodox medicine? The website contains more than 150 articles, however, four of them are significantly more important than the others because they provide the "Big Picture" of treating cancer, rather than an individual piece of the picture."

CPOET Lee Robinson sent the following information that may assist others "A recent conversation I had with Tony Vine led to his suggestion that I contact you and inform you of a recent decision by the Veteran's review board to finally accept my claim for compensation for asthma.  I served on 'O' boats from 92 to 96 until my career was cut short with a diagnosis of asthma. Before joining the navy I was fit and healthy and had no family history of asthma. I was convinced that my beloved submarine career had caused my asthma. My initial application was rejected, so I appealed. My appeal was also rejected so I then slightly altered my claim to better reflect their statements of principles. Essentially, it came down to wheat flour I had come into contact with while working in the galley (I am an ET, not a cook). The whole process has taken about five years.  The gentlemen who helped me with my claim is a guy that works for the Vietnam Veteran's Association. If you want to talk to me to obtain more information, please feel free to contact me. I think we need to spread the word as I am sure there are lots of people who are eligible to claim."   Email me for Lee's contact details if interested.

The Mailbag

 John 'Percy' Campbell (ex CPOMTP3) sent the following "I had just qualified whilst on Ovens at the time of the incident during a multinational exercise off NZ in late 1971. I believe Bob Woolrych was skipper at the time.  Can any members of the SAA recall the event and circumstances?"  I was on Ovens at the time and was closed up on the Panel during this incident.  This episode is not talked about and my memories are vague, although at the time the adrenalin was pumping.  Maybe it is the sort of thing that ones mind 'puts away' for a reason.  I do know Wooly was pissed, he almost lost his sense of humour.  If you can recall the incident I would be interested in your memory of the event, email me.

Nick Steyn raised the often asked question "I was asked the other day why submarines are called boat’s I was unable to answer, also what designates a boat, vessel, ship etc.  Any help would be great."  I pointed him to an old Navy News item written in 2000 by LEUT Tom Lewis which is quite interesting and suggested that Nick Google "why submarines are called boats" for more answers.

We have quite a few Oz submariners living and working overseas and Justin Waples responded to my query about what he was doing in the USofA with "I left the Navy from SERG, went back to school and got an engineering degree, then moved over to the US to give it a try. My Mrs is a US citizen. It's going OK here at the moment. Just too cold and rainy up here in Oregon. I'm looking to move down to the San Francisco area in the future. DBF. Things aren't quite adventurous anymore after leaving the puss and sitting at a desk, are they?" If you are living overseas why not drop me a line.

This week the Prime Minister announced that effective 4 July, Russell Crane will be promoted to the rank of Vice Admiral and will become the professional head of the Royal Australian Navy.  Not bad for a JR who joined the RAN in the 32nd JRTE.  Dave 'Goldie' Horne commented "Isn't it great see in this day and age where everybody thinks they should go to university first that our new Chief of Navy started out as a junior recruit and our new Chief of Army was an apprentice. It is also good to see that the new Chief of Air Force started out in the RAN."  Yes, things are a little different today, the opportunity for advancement is so much better than in the dark ages.

It has been determined, the most used sexual position for married couples is a doggie position. The husband sits up and begs. The wife rolls over and plays dead.

Rumour has it that Grant and Emma Kelly have managed to multiply and Emma is due to have a baby end of August 08. Congratulations mate.

Our condolences to Daryl Kearvell and his family on the loss of his Mum who passed away on the 6 March. She had long been ill with cancer. Daryl said "The Funeral was memorable and in a lovely setting in the bush near a small church Beris she was involved in restoring some years ago (she also did the lead light window)."

Dave Luck sent Bob Wilson a quick update on the fund raising in his area.  "I have received a cheque for $100.00 from the Merimbula Bowling Club which I will forward in the next mail, the RSL Sub Branch have voted to donate $500.00 and we have sold more than $200.00 worth of raffle tickets, and so far I think we have about $125.00 in the buckets in the Chook and Ox Tavern and the local bottle shop.  Gerald Degen, (ex Dutch Submariner), and I are setting up a table outside the paper shop next Wednesday to see if we can sell a few more raffle tickets, and it's not being drawn until the 30th April, so we should get more out of that. One of the local Estate Agents is also taking some tickets to see if they can sell some.  I'm still waiting to hear from the Merimbula RSL Club Ltd."  It would be good if more of our Members could be as proactive as Dave and Gerald.  This support is badly needed to ensure Tug and his team's efforts are worthwhile.

Les Rawson wrote "A few (too many) years back I was living in Telopea and one Saturday planned on doing a brake reline on the vehicle. So I got started and was on wheel number two when a red-headed figure (Ok it was Blue Lees) with a carton of piss under one arm and a bucket of KFC under the other appeared. 'I'm here to help' said Blue, and commenced refreshing himself. So several refreshments later and a share out of the KFC to my kids (in their 30's now and still call him 'Uncle Blue' when his name comes up) we started on wheel number three. Due to prevailing climatic conditions, Mrs said we were pissed, we declined to start on wheel number four and proceeded inside for more refreshment and tea. In the course of the evening we had a few more refreshments and a couple of hands of cards when to our disgust (not really) Blue let one go the the screams of laughter of my kids, and stated 'One - Nil'. The next couple of hours got to something like 'Ten all' and we decided bed was the safest place to be due to the fact Mrs was now becoming immune to the 'excuse me' following each fart, which no longer retained any credibility or sincerity. After a few hours sleep wife and I awoke to a tapping on the bedroom door (it was daylight), and Blues voice asked if he could come in. He came in and said words to the effect; 'look, about last night....errrr, ummmm.......' He then let one go which rattled the windows and said without blinking....'One - Nil' and walked out to the cheers of my kids!"  Les, you deserved it, after all, who invites a communicator home..........

Les also commented on my plug for VistaPrint "Used Vista a couple of years back for some 'corporate' type gifts for my Lodge. They did a good job and at a reasonable cost and quite few members of the Lodge have continued to use them."

Here is a chance to pick up stationary cheap (or even free) from VistaPrint. When you click through to their site and place your first VistaPrint order, you will receive a special promotion and the website will earn VistaCash that helps pay for the site's stationary.  So order your own personal "business" cards now, FREE, you only pay for postage.


Ahoy All, Bob Emery (for SAOC West) advises that the Submariners Association of Canada West current on-line Newsletter is now up-loaded for your perusal ...

WA Member Mike Shepherd has put forward a suggestion that we have a hat for all association members to wear. What is the best way around this one??  Does anyone have a suggestion?  I am NOT wearing a poofy beret or straw boater!!!!

Your fortnightly online copy of Navy News, the sailors' paper, is now available. Featured in this edition: Fleet concentration period; Capital support for Navy; Java Sea battle marked. Follow the link to read the latest edition.

A young sailor married a beautiful woman who had previously divorced 10 husbands. On their wedding night, she told her new husband to "Please be gentle; I'm still a virgin".  "What?" said the puzzled groom. "How can that be if you've been married ten times.?"
"Well, husband #1 was a Sales Representative; he kept telling me how great it was going to be.
"Husband # 2 was in Software Services; he was never really sure how it was suppose to function; but he said he'd look into it and get back with me.
"Husband # 3 was from Field Services; he said that everything checked out diagnostically but he just couldn't get the system up.
"Husband # 4 was in Telemarketing; even though he knew he had the order, he didn't know when he would be able to deliver.
"Husband # 5 was an Engineer, he understood the basic process but he wanted three years to research, implement, and design a new state of the-art method.
"Husband #6 was from Administration; he thought he knew how but he wasn't sure whether it was his job or not.
"Husband # 7 was in Marketing; although he had a product, he was never sure how to position it.
"Husband # 8 was a Psychiatrist; all he did was talk about it.
"Husband # 9 was a Gynecologist; all he did was look at it.
"Husband # 10 was a Stamp Collector; all he ever did was........ God I miss him.
"But now that I've married you, I'm so excited".
"Wonderful", said the husband, "but why?
"You're with the "GOVERNMENT".. This time I KNOW I'M gonna get SCREWED."

Visitor to the log MaryAnn Uechtritz asks "You have on your website in the Jan 08 issue of In Depth, an article about the submarine E35 sinking the German U-boat U 154. (Submarine History) At the end of the article under "For the Record" it states that U 154 had 5 captains of British Merchant ships aboard as prisoners. Can you direct me to the source of that information and do you have any idea if it's possible to find out what the names of those officers were.  Also, as a matter of curiosity - What would the Navy protocol have been (in 1918) with regard to the sinking of boats with known allied prisoners on board?  I would very much appreciate any assistance you can provide."  I have passed to Peter Smith to respond, but if anyone else out there can help, please let MaryAnn know.

In response to MaryAnn's request Peter replied "MaryAnne,  my main mention of the facts came from Paul Kemp's book "U-Boats Destroyed - German Submarine Losses in the World Wars" ISBN 1 85409 321 5, the mention of the fact that 5 Merchant Captains were on board came from another book, the title escapes me at the moment when you have a library close to 900 books on submarine facts it gets a little difficult to place my hands on it.

With the the sinking of ships and submarines and U-boats, no one in war time especially the commanding officers of warships/submarines would not know who was on board unless they were picked up as survivors. After both world wars the Allies checked the registers of the Axis nations to confirm that their ships and submarines etc were confirmed as missing, it would have been at this time that the Allies found out that there were Merchant Captains in the U-boats as prisoners. The German U-boat skippers liked to take back sea captains to Germany for two reasons (1) confirm the sinking of the merchant ship and (2) put the Captains into POW camps so as they could not aid the Merchant fleets. The U-boat Flotilla would have been notified by radio that the Captains were on board.

I have no real idea where to find the names of the officers taken prisoner. You could try the U-Boat Archive in Cuxhaven, Germany. The Royal Navy Submarine Museum, Gosport UK, Lloyds of London. You may be able to trace the ships that U-154 sunk in April/May 1918 and that way find out who the Masters were. If the officers came from ships that were in a convoy there should/could be a list some where in the a Museum library in England/Germany. There are some good information books out there, but I have yet to come across a book that lists all ships sunk in both world wars and who their Masters were or who sunk the ships.  I'm sorry that I cannot supply more information, Regards Peter Smith."

Easter Greetings
May I take this opportunity to wish everyone a Happy Easter. Terry Hall, Hon. Secretary, Submariners Association (Derbyshire).

Wherever you are. we hope the Easter Bunny finds you and we hope that you have a great Easter. Happy Easter, Les Dwyer, National President, Naval Association of Australia

Eternal Patrol
Lt. Frank Anthony Barber RN (Rtd) has “Crossed the Bar on his Last Patrol”. Lt. Barber joined HMS Dolphin for Submarine Training on 20.5.1965 and joined the submarine HMS Finwhale for continuation training in October 1965. He then served on the following boats: HMS Oracle, HMS Ambush and HMS Onslaught. He took the Commanding Officers Qualifying Course "Perisher" in 1973 and then commanded HMS Olympus.

A man with a gun goes into a bank and demands their money. Once he is given the money, he turns to a customer and asks, "Did you see me rob this bank?"   The man replied, "Yes sir, I did." The robber then shot him in the temple, killing him instantly.   He then turned to a couple standing next and asked the man, "Did you see me rob this bank?"   The man replied, "No sir, I didn't, but my wife did."

Collins class submarine replacement project
The Collins class submarine replacement project is a Royal Australian Navy (RAN) effort to replace the Navy's six Collins class submarines with a new design from 2025. At an estimated cost of up to $A25 billion, the project may be the most expensive defence acquisition ever undertaken by the Australian Government.

In December 2007, the Australian Minister for Defence, Joel Fitzgibbon, authorized the RAN to begin planning the project. The Australian Government and Australian Defence Force (ADF) believe that the Royal Australian Navy's submarine service forms a vital component of the ADF and may grow in importance as countries in Australia's region expand or establish their own submarine forces. The role of the new submarines will be to collect intelligence, attack ships, submarines and land targets with missiles and torpedoes and land special forces teams. The submarines' capabilities will also act as a deterrent against military attacks on Australia.

Due to the project's complexity it is expected that it will take 17 years to design the submarines, gain government approval for the project and complete the first boat in the class. The timeline for the project calls for research into the submarines begin in late 2007 or early 2008 and be completed by 2011 when the Federal Cabinet will give initial approval to the design. After the design is developed further it is planned that Cabinet will give final approval for the project in 2014 or 2015 after which contracts for the submarines will be signed and construction will begin. The sea trials for the first new submarine have been tentatively scheduled for 2024 so that the boat is ready to replace the first Collins class submarine which is scheduled to be decommissioned in 2025.

The new class of submarines is expected to be a unique Australian design rather than a variant of an existing foreign design.[2] While the Navy's study will consider all submarine options, including the acquisition of nuclear powered submarines, it is expected that the final design will be a larger, quieter, faster and better armed version of the Collins class. It is also expected that the submarines will be built by ASC (formerly the Australian Submarine Corporation) in Adelaide, South Australia. ASC built all of the Collins class boats and operates the only submarine construction facility in Australia. Building the boats in Australia may increase their cost, however.

It is not currently known how many submarines will be built and this will be determined by the Navy's research and budget constraints. Former defence minister Kim Beazley has proposed that Australia's submarine force be doubled to 12 boats to keep pace with the increased number of submarines in Australia's region. However, Australian Strategic Policy Institute defence analyst Mark Thompson has warned that Australia might not be able to afford to replace the Navy's ships on a one-for-one basis due to the rapidly increasing costs of military equipment. The Kokoda Foundation, which is an independent Australian defence think tank, has estimated that cost of building replacements for the Collins class and arming and supporting the new submarines may be as high as A$25 billion. If this estimate is correct it would make the project the most expensive defence acquisition ever undertaken by the Australian Government.

Proposed design features
While the submarines' design will not be finalised until after 2011, a range of features have been suggested. Nuclear propulsion is likely to be ruled out because of cost and the lack of nuclear-power infrastructure. It is expected that the submarines will have an air-independent propulsion system that will allow them to remain underwater much longer than the Collins-class boats. The submarines will also have state-of-the-art batteries and sophisticated communications.

The new submarines are expected to be better armed than the Collins class, armed with long-range cruise missiles, which are not currently carried by the Collins class, as well as shorter ranged missiles and torpedoes. The new submarines may also carry midget submarines which will be used to collect intelligence or land special forces troops.

Cook's Corner
Here is a chicken recipe that also includes the use of popcorn as a stuffing - imagine that! When I found this recipe, I thought it was perfect for people like me, who are just never sure how to tell when poultry is thoroughly cooked, but not dried out. Give this a try.

BAKED STUFFED CHICKEN
6-7 lb. baking chicken
1 cup melted butter
1 cup stuffing
1 cup uncooked popcorn
Salt/pepper to taste

Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Brush chicken well with melted butter, salt, and pepper. Fill cavity with stuffing and popcorn (mixed together. Place in baking pan with the neck end toward the back of the oven. Listen for the popping sounds. When the chicken's arse blows the oven door open and the chicken flies across the room, it is done.  And you thought I couldn't cook.

Two Aboriginals were driving their old Ford Falcon in the outback one day, when off in the distance they saw a police booze bus. One of them thinks "this is great" and heads straight for it.
As they pulled up, the driver winds his window down and says "Two cans of Emu Export thanks mate!"
The copper looks at him and says "You must be drunk! Get out of the car and blow into this tube for me."
The driver got out of the car and said "Sorry boss, I can't blow in that. I got a letter from the doc saying I'm asthmatic and I'll pass out if I blow in that."
The cop looks at him and with a bemused look and says "OK In these cases we require you to give a blood sample."
"Nah nah sorry boss. Can't be doin' that. I got a letter from the Red Cross saying I'm a Hemophiliac and I could bleed to death. Sorry boss, can't do that," said the driver.
By now the copper is getting fairly irate and finally demands a urine sample for testing. The driver looks at him and says "Sorry boss, can't do that either."
The copper says "Surely you can't have a letter for that!!!"
"Bloody oath mate." says the driver, "It's from Kevin's government. Says that you whites can't take the piss out of us blackfellas no more."

Gold wire pocket badges for all Oberon submarines - get yours for ANZAC Day

They are removable and can be transferred to different jackets. Price is $35.00 each plus postage. These are extremely high quality and can be used for many purposes - Wearing on jacket or blazer (4 pins on reverse), mounting in frame with Medals, bar display. It is left to your imagination. See them in the Slops Van

Notorious German Third Reich U-boat base Valentin for sale to serious bidder
Dank and dark, built by slave labourers, the vast concrete complex known as Valentin on the north German coast is not exactly a des res. Germany's notorious submarine factory is, however, up for sale to anyone interested in a building with 7m-thick walls, the largest surviving bunker from the Third Reich.

The asking price is vague but government officials say that they could be accommodating for any serious bidder. The place has become a millstone, its upkeep swallowing up to €800,000 (£630,000) a year from the Defence Ministry budget. “And that's just the absolutely essential investments needed to stop the place crumbling,” says commandant Wolfgang zu Putlitz, who is in charge of guarding and maintaining the site.

Hitler, concerned that Germany was losing the edge in the war for the sea lanes, ordered the construction of the factory near Bremen with the aim of producing a new U-boat, the sophisticated XXI model, every 56 hours. Germany had wreaked havoc on Allied shipping at the beginning of the war with a fleet of only 57 submarines. By June 1943 the tide was turning: the Allies had developed accurate detection devices that could outwit and trap the expanded U-boat force.

The factory, codenamed Valentin, was Hitler's last chance to stop the Allies ferrying supplies and reinforcements by sea. It was to be shielded from bombing raids by a bunker with a thick pre-stressed concrete roof.  The result was a silo with the dimensions of a cathedral: 426m (1,400ft) long, 97m wide, 25m high. At one end was a diving basin for the last tests on the U-boats before they would slide into the Weser river and head for the North Sea.  In the event, no submarine left the factory. By March 1945 the factory, begun 18 months earlier, was 80 per cent complete. Then a British Bomber Command raid succeeded in penetrating the roof. Barely a month later, before repairs were complete, the war was over.

The initial idea after the war was to blow up Valentin but that would have required at least 500 tonnes of explosives and the blast would have wiped out most of the neighbourhood. So it was taken over by the German Army, which has been using part of it as a storehouse. Blowing it up is now out of the question because it has been officially listed: research in Eastern European archives has shown that at least 4,000 slave labourers, many of them from Poland and Russia, died building Valentin. Most were undernourished. Some were beaten to death by guards trying to enforce a breakneck speed of construction.

“This bunker should not be sold,” the Mayor of Bremen, Jens Böhrnsen, says, “for both financial and moral reasons.” The new owner would have to commit himself to making at least part of the site into a memorial centre for Nazi slave labour. At least 12,000 concentration camp inmates, forced labourers and prisoners of war were involved in the almost pharaonic project: a million tonnes of gravel and sand had to be dug up and 1,232,000 tonnes of cement was mixed.

A British war crimes unit investigated conditions in the nearby work camp at Bremen-Farge and painted a horrific picture of life there: crammed sleeping quarters, back-breaking shifts, sadistic overseers, rations that would barely feed a child.  In 1947 12 German guards were charged in a Hamburg court with crimes against humanity committed at Valentin.

Franz Josef Jung, the German Defence Minister, has said that he is aware of the historical significance of the U-boat factory but added: “It is not the task of the German Army to maintain memorials”.

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France Adds Nuclear Sub and Vows to Cut Warheads
Dedicating France’s fourth nuclear-armed submarine, President Nicolas Sarkozy on Friday defended his country’s arsenal as vital to deter a range of new threats, including the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran with intercontinental missiles.  His mood was somber, as he inaugurated a new generation of nuclear submarine of the “Triomphant” class, this one named Le Terrible, which could be best translated as The Fearsome. It will be equipped with a new, nuclear-tipped missile, the M-51, whose range is secret but is understood, according to Le Monde, to be some 4,970 miles, able to reach Asia.

Clearly trying to balance nuclear modernization with gestures toward a European population more interested in eliminating nuclear weapons than improving them, Mr. Sarkozy said France would continue to reduce the number of warheads on airplanes, bringing its total nuclear force to fewer than 300 warheads, half the number during the cold war.  The actual number of warheads France possesses is secret. This year, the Federation of American Scientists, which tracks nuclear arsenals, said France had 348 warheads — 288 on submarines, 50 on air-launched cruise missiles and 10 bombs.

Britain also has nuclear weapons, the main reason that Britain and France remain permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. Neither country has been willing to cede its seat to the European Union. The United States provides most of Europe’s nuclear deterrence through NATO and its doctrine of collective defense.

UK Nuclear submarine staff in navy con
A firm hired to upgrade a nuclear submarine repair centre conned the Navy out of £424,923 with an army of ghost workers, a court heard yesterday. For 15 months 58 fake staff "clocked on" at the Devonport base. A judge at Southwark told conspirators James McLaughlin, 58, Robert Burns, 30, and Rebekah Hart, 28, of Ayrshire, and Chris Ackerman, 33, of Plymouth, they face jail.

New Vessel Prepared to Rescue Submariners Lost in the Deep
A new submarine rescue system, owned jointly by France, Norway and the UK, has successfully completed trials off the coast of Norway. When it comes into service it promises to offer a complete rescue package for trapped submariners, should the unthinkable happen on their submarine, anywhere in the world. The new submersible vehicle will be complement the new US Submarine Rescue Diving and Recompression System based in San Diego. Both are due in service this year, are capable of worldwide deployment and will be available to all submarine-operating nations.

The three countries will also support the new vehicle through its 30 life expectancy at a cost of £157 million. The project is managed by the MOD's Defence Equipment & Support team on behalf of the three nations. When in service it will based at Faslane on the Clyde and managed by In Service Submarines Integrated Project Team and the existing LR5 rescue submersible and Scorpio remotely operated vehicle will leave operational service.

Designed and built by Perry Slingsby Systems ltd of Kirkbymoorside, the rescue submarine will have a crew of two pilots and an attendant. It is designed to rescue 15 people at a time and will normally operate a four-hour cycle. The vehicle consists of a free-swimming rescue vehicle with an A-frame portable launch and recovery system, a transfer under pressure facility to safely decompress personnel from a pressurized submarine, and an intervention system for survey and rescue preparation. It is powered by advanced sodium nickel batteries with higher power-to-weight/space ratio than traditional lead acid batteries used in current rescue vehicles. Designed to provide time to first rescue target of 72 hours the submarine is designed for air mobility and will be maintained in high readiness status, the submarine will be able to mobilize at a 12 hours' notice, transported by road and air to a mother-ship destined to operate where a submarine has been sunk. The mother-ship supports the underwater rescue operation by monitoring and guiding the crew through fiber-optic umbilical providing video, communications and data link to the command team on the mother ship.

It will be able to rescue a crew from depths of 40 to 610m, at angles of up to 60 degrees and with internal pressures as high as 6 bar. The vessel is designed to operate at rough sea conditions, and will operate in sea state 6 (5m high waves) and remain on station in 10m high seas. The free-swimming rescue vehicle concluded a successful 'mate' with the Norwegian submarine Uredd at a depth of 87 meters in Husnes Fjord, just south of Bergen, last month.

Initial Trials Verify Basic Submarine Performance
"The NATO submarine rescue system is nearing the end of a complex period which has combined design, development, manufacture and demonstration," said Commander Dickie Burston, leader of Defence Equipment & Support's NATO Submarine Rescue System team. "It will now move forward and provide the nations with a world class capability." Last month's trials were supported by the Harstad, a Norwegian coastguard vessel acting as mother ship. On its deepest dive the rescue vehicle, which has previously been pressure tested to depths of 840 meters, went down in 100m steps to just over 600m with full system checks at each depth. While not all the deep water acceptance trials were completed in full, there were enough key events for the trials to be declared a success. Trials to include testing hatch operations at depth, angled 'mating' up to 60 degrees and the ability to recover the vehicle from rough seas will take place soon.

According to Cdr Burston, "Tom Heron, the senior pilot and one of the most experienced submarine rescue operators in the world was delighted with the trial, commenting on the stability, maneuverability and power available and how solid she felt at 610m, with none of the usual creaks and groans heard at great depths."  Further trials are planned over the next six months. Deployment next month from the MV Argonaute provided by the French Navy will include a two-day medical exercise to test the transfer under pressure facility and develop casualty handling and co-ordination of rescuees. Air portability trials, training and more exercises will continue in the summer and there may be full participation in NATO's exercise 'Bold Monarch' off Norway in late May and early June 2008.

"As a former submarine commander I do not expect submarines to sink, but it is not possible to guard against all eventualities and completely eradicate equipment failure, human error and just plain accidents." said Cdr Burston, "Submarines still hit uncharted sea-bed pinnacles or have major fires on board and, while the crews manage to get them safely back to port on almost every occasion, if a submarine should sink and some of the crew remain alive on board, it is fundamental that the navies are able to effect rescue. "The submarine rescue system will give us and any other nation that wishes to be associated an outstanding cost-effective solution to the accident that we hope will never happen again." Burston concluded.

My grandmother died in the 90s, but her birthday is coming up, and that always causes me to reminisce. The long walks we used to take to the country store on Crawford Road, the pocket money she gave me for meaningless jobs like pulling weeds or washing the car... Those gems were all good, but the one I remember most, the jewel in the crown of grandmotherly advice, occurred when I was only about 13.

We were sitting in a park having just finished collecting some 40 soda bottles for the deposit money on a beautiful spring day. She told me that one day, I would find a wonderful woman and start my own family. 'And always remember this' she said. 'Be sure you marry a woman with small hands.'

'How come, Grandma?' I asked her. She answered in her lovely soft voice.  'Makes your dick look bigger.'

Kinda brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

Come on Boof, lets go fishing...  Happy Easter everyone..

Sunday, 16th MARCH 2008

Nothing gets past Darren Thompson who wrote "Hi Norm, I know we are behind the rest of Australia over here in WA, but I think you may have gained a day somewhere over there in Sunny QLD. That is to say your last two log entries are a day out with the date for March. You have the 3rd and 10th of March as Sundays when in fact they are Monday. Not trying to be a smartass, but didn't want you losing a day of your retirement." One loses track of time contemplating ones navel while waiting for the concretor to arrive..... Have fixed.

Other than the above from Darren and an email from some jetsetters, there has been little correspondence of note, making it hard to put the Log together.  Come on guys, spill the dirt on your oppos, give me the buzzes so that we can all be informed.

Concreters turned up for three days this week, it rained each time.  However, we now have three quarters of a driveway (about 130m2), only the remaining driveway, pool area and paths to be poured.  It is all being sprayed with Covercrete (a spray on cement finish) which means that it will be at least two weeks before I can use the garage again.  At least there is light at the end of the tunnel.

It is surprising the number of ex service personnel that live around here, getting to meet someone with only one head.  An ex Colonel owns the Bauple Plantation and has also taken over the shop.  A big improvement, the range and quality of products has improved considerably.  It is run by his wife and daughters, but he does rounds daily.  It now sells espresso coffee and I have one with the Colonel each morning during my daily walk.  Boof and Sheila get browned off, they get nothing.

Fred my neighbour is getting on a bit and asked me if I could take him into Maryborough so that he could get a prescription filled. We arrived at the Chemists and he asked for a prescription of Viagra to be filled, but asked the chemist if he could cut the tablets into quarters.   I can cut them for you" said the chemist, "but a quarter tablet will not give you a full erection." " I am 96 "said my neigbour." I don't want an erection . I just want it sticking out far enough so I don't pee on me slippers. " I thought, a sign of things to come for me.

On the way back to Bauple Fred and I called in to have a beer with one of his mates, a farmer.  When we got there the farmer was yelling at a lawyer that had been hunting and he had shot and dropped a bird, but it fell into a farmer's field on the other side of a fence. As the lawyer climbed over the fence the farmer asked him what he was doing. The litigator responded, "I shot a duck and now I'm going to retrieve it."  The farmer replied, "This is my property, and you are not coming over here."

The indignant lawyer said, "I am one of the best lawyers in Maryborough and, if you don't let me get that duck, I'll sue you and take everything you own."  The old farmer smiled and said, "Apparently, you don't know how we settle disputes in Bauple. We settle small disagreements like this with the 'Three Kick Rule.'  The lawyer asked, "What is the 'Three Kick Rule'?"

The Farmer replied, "Well, because the dispute occurs on my land, I get to go first. I kick you three times and then you kick me three times and so on back and forth until someone gives up."  The lawyer quickly thought about the proposed contest and decided that he could easily take the old codger. He agreed to abide by the local custom.

The old farmer slowly climbed down from the tractor and walked up to the attorney. His first kick planted the toe of his heavy steel toed work boot into the lawyer's groin and dropped him to his knees!   His second kick to the midriff sent the lawyer's last meal gushing from his mouth. The lawyer was on all fours when the farmer's third kick to his rear end, sent him face-first into a fresh cow pie.

Summoning every bit of his will and remaining strength the lawyer very slowly managed to get to his feet. Wiping his face with the arm of his jacket, he said, "Okay, you old fart. Now it's my turn."  The old farmer smiled and said, "Nah, I give up. You can have the duck."


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President's Update
Last month I sent a letter to Brigadier Bill Rolfe (Rtd), the Repatriation Commissioner at the Department of Veteran Affairs, on the recommendations made on page 90 of the Final Report of the Oberon Submarine Health Project (dated the 16th February 2006). We were seeking information on the remaining five recommendations that are awaiting further investigation. I requested, on behalf of the SAA, assistance and advice as to how these recommendations could be achieved.  

A response has been received from Brigadier Rolf (Rtd) who advises that the first recommendation has been put in place and that the remaining recommendations were matters for Defence to address.

He advised that Defence had been advised of our request and that a detailed response has been asked for.  This will be provided to the Association when it is received by the Brigadier.

All Members are reminded that nominations for National Office are to be with Peter Smith, the National Secretary, by the 28th of March.  It is in the interest of the Association that nominations for all positions are received.

SA Branch News
Members are reminded that the AGM for the SA branch is programmed for Sunday 25 May 2008 at the Port Adelaide Naval Association rooms in Quebec Street at 1300.

Walk for Kids
John Hogg (Ex POSN) who admits "I might not be real handsome but I can count and lift heavy weights" spends many hours forwarding information of interest to veteran's groups and as a result Tug's campaign has a new recruit, Craig Fothergill (a bloody skimmer with heart). In an email to John he said  "I would never have known about this walk, and a plethora of other events etc. without your tireless work to keep us all informed. As a result of an email from Stew (also a tireless ambassador) earlier this week, I have now committed myself as a crusty old Attack Class patrol boat man, to walk from Coolangatta to Coffs. I have also commenced looking for sponsorship in my central Burnett town of Gayndah (Qld) so in your indirect way, you have raised more money for, as you said, a cause very dear to your heart.  Keep up the good work!!"  Carol Wilson commented "Craig certainly has registered to walk and the Submarine Institute of Australia has come up with a generous donation. This week we are up to $12,200.95 so we are gathering momentum. 

Just received an email from Dave Luck, he has just been told his local, the Merimbula Bowling Club, have approved a $100.00 donation for Tug's charity.

If for some reason you cannot walk, surely a small donation wouldn't hurt for the kids. Please go to www.walkforkidswithcancer.com to register to walk and/or register your donation. Bank details on website.

The beer coasters that we have bought as a fundraiser are available from the Slops Van, I still have 20,000 to sell. So get in quick before they are all gone.

Logistic Support Organization-Tug’s Walk for Kids with Cancer 

The persons that Tug had lined up to organize the Logistic Support for his walk to Canberra, are now unable to assist due to work constraints and university study requirements.  Carol Wilson has sent a Message/SOS to Rob Woolrych, Secretary SAA Qld Inc and the website seeking support in finding a Member of the ex-Submarine fraternity to undertake these support duties.

Much of the ground work for the walk to Canberra has already been completed and is falling into place. Carol has been hard at work liaising with the necessary authorities and now she just needs someone to be her right hand person and take over some of the work she and Tug have been doing and pull all the strings together.

There are members of SAA Qld Inc who are willing to assist but what she needs is someone with the time to assist them both by taking over some of the duties and to act as the Logistic Coordinator for this task.

What we need is a person who would be able organise the walk as set out below. Bob's aim is to walk 40kms a day with 10 walkers walking 5kms each in rotation so that no one has to burst a boiler.  What we would require of the logistical person would be to organise the walk in 40kms stages (I guess this would be like organising a road convoy from major city to major city with stops in between only it would be walkers not vehicles). We would need to liaise with stop over places for some sort of accommodation (i.e. show grounds or camping grounds) where the permanent walkers would be able to sleep and have showers etc. We have not been able to get corporate sponsorship in this area.

The walk is to start at Coolangatta on 4th May and end in Canberra at the War Memorial on Friday 6th June to coincide with Subcon08. There are places such as Ballina, (Rod Fayle) Grafton, (Col Ryan) Coffs Harbour (Kevin Heyton) Port Macquarie (my niece Sonia Fingleton) and Newcastle (my niece Karen Spencer). We would arrive in these places and stay two nights. We are planning to go from Coolangatta to Byron Bay along the highway with a detour and stop at Murwillumbah then to Byron Bay along the highway. Byron Bay to Ballina via Lennox Head. Ballina - Yamba - Grafton via highway. Grafton - Coffs Harbour via highway. Coffs - Kempsey via highway. Kempsey - Port Macquarie via highway. Port to Newcastle via highway. Into Newcastle from Hexham Bridge to city and out via main road to Swansea. Swansea to Westfield Shoppingtown turnoff via highway then in through Wyong Road to main road that takes you to Gosford (I think that would be the old Pacific Highway). Gosford to Sydney (Wahroonga) via freeway. Wahroonga to Westmead via highway and Pennant Hills Road to hospital in Hawkesbury Road. Back out along Hawkesbury Road to Great Western Highway to Wentworthville onto Cumberland Highway to Liverpool. Liverpool to Campbelltown via Hume Highway through Campbelltown back onto highway to Mittagong (not Bowral). Through Mittagong back onto highway then follow highway to Marulan, Goulburn then onto Federal Highway to Canberra. Most of the Sydney walk would be on the footpath.

We know there are some big roadwork's along the way and on the F3 into Sydney. where we could not walk This is why we now need some expertise.

IF YOU ARE THAT PERSON PEASE CONTACT CAROL WILSON (07) 3200 8016 OR EMAIL or contact Rob Woolrych, Secretary SAA Qld Inc, (07) 5442 1991.  

 

One reason the Military Services have trouble operating jointly is that they don't speak the same language. For example, if you told Navy personnel to "secure a building," they would turn off the lights and lock the doors. The Army would occupy the building so no one could enter. The SAS would assault the building, capture it, and defend it with suppressive fire and close combat. The Air Force, on the other hand, would take out a three-year lease with an option to buy.

Grant (Ned) and Emma Kelly have just returned from a jolly to Japan.  He writes "Thanks to you passing on Carl Smiths details in Japan, I found the up top legend twice, once in Kyoto and again for a few beers in Osaka. The trip went well considering the misses is up the duff and due in August. I managed to go skiing for 6 gays in Sapporo while poor Emma read books and found somewhere for us to eat each night (not one whale was consumed). After my fun was over and Emma was ready to kill me for telling her how much fun I was having, we moved on to Tokyo, Mt Fuji, Kyoto and then to Hiroshima.

Highlights of the trip were bullet trains, I set a record I think of 9 cans on the train using vending machines and a bar wench (not Emma), between Tokyo and Kyoto first can 0935. you can take the boy out of boats but you cannot take the boat out of the boy. I found myself at the temples (mainly because all the Buddha's looked a bit like me) and then it was of to Hiroshima, very interesting and worth the trip for anyone.

Carl Smith of course on the last day managed to find a new Aussie Pub and have a VB before I left. It was great to catch up and a reminder that no matter how long it is between drinks, we still pick up where we left off and get along just the same as we did before. I guess that is where after all the deployments, patrols and many mind numbing night during work ups we learn what mates are about.

It was a great Jolly, apart from Jet Star, it would be good to let the members know that it is not worth the few $ that you can save. Stick with the big guns and enjoy your trip. without going into too much detail they suck."


Jonathan Jackson (LSUCSM) asked me to send him some dolphins to Denmark and in response to my "What the..." he replied "To answer you question about what I'm doing over here. I'm married, 3 sons, no cats or dogs and I work for a construction company as an engineer (HVAS). You know norm, we sailed together on the same boat, I just can't remember if it was Ovens or Oxley or even Otway, all of which I served twice on between 82-89."  It was Ovens that we served on, I would have been the Chief Stoker at the time. Jonathon has promised to send some photos. He added "I have some of Titch's (the UW) drawings (cartoons) from Oxley when Bradford RN and McLean CAF were CO, but I can not find them, I'll try and find them for you."

Skimmer Rod (Grumbles)Groombridge needs help. "I was a Killick Stoker on Vampire with little Percy Jones (when he was one) who turned to the dark side and became not only a submariner but a cook also. I was told by one of your members Craig Cope that you would know how to get in contact with him. I believe he is working on oil rigs off the WA coast.  Can you help, if so let me know.

A dog is truly a man's best friend.  If you don't believe it, just try this experiment. Put your dog and your wife in the boot of the car for an hour. When you open the boot, who is really happy to see you.

Health Matters
Peter Smith writes "The response to my section on Health Matters has been very good, judging by the correspondence and conversations with members. However, I have not stepped down off my soap-box when it comes to prostrate cancer, as too many of our members have been affected in one way or another by this insidio