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ANZAC DAY 2008
They have no grave but the cruel sea,
No flowers lay at their head.
A rusting hulk is their tombstone,
Afast on the ocean bed.
They shall grow not old, as we who are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning.......
We shall remember them.
" Lest we forget "

SAA New Members - Welcome Aboard
It is great to see that the following
have made the decision and signed on as Members, why don't you do it NOW!
Deep down you know it makes sense.
Peter
(Pete) Brian Wells
partner Annette. Yandina Creek, QLD 4561
Former LSMTP3SM served in HMAS Otama, Otway and Onslow. 1986 -
1994

William
Richard Arthur (Seaweed)
Van Berk,
partner Marianne. Zillmere QLD 4034 Former ABSTDSM served in
HMAS Otway 1969 -72
Ian (Apples) Appleby,
partner Tanya. Cherrybrook NSW
Former CPOETSSM Served in HMAS Onslow thrice, Oxley, Otway,
Otama and Orion 1981 - 1992
Richard
John (Rick) Coathup,
Ferntree Gully, Victoria
Former LSCKSM served in HMAS Otway, Oxley twice and Orion 1985 -
1993.
Kevin Robert (Mother)
Farr, Port
Kennedy WA
Former LSETCSM served in HMAS Onslow, Otama, Ovens and Otway
1987 - 1990
John William (Jock)
Howes, partner Tanya Hartvigsen, Herston QLD
Former CPOETSSM served in HMAS Ovens, Oxley and Orion 1977 -
1986
Reginald William (Bill) Mees,
partner Anne, Sawyers Valley WA
Former LSMESM served in HMS Narwhal and HMAS Onlsow 1968 - 1972
John David Morris,
partner Robyn Airlie Beach QLD
Former LSUCSM served in HMS/ms Osiris, Odin and HMAS Ovens 1967
- 1973
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Join the SAA. Remember, the more Members the more the policy makers in Canberra listen, there is strength in numbers. Details on SAA Membership are provided on the
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The following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a Birthday.
ARIES
Mar 20th - April 18th You are
practical and persistent, two qualities that make you a
pain in the arse! You have a dogged determination
to finish what you start, it is a pity that you never
get it right the first time. Some people think
that you are stubborn and pig-headed, but most just
think you are an arsehole.
TAURUS
April 19th - May 19th Taurus takes its
name from the Greek Tauros, meaning "the Bull" ond like
a Bull you are full of it! You are successful in
life, because you understand the importance of sucking
up. Lacks a sense of humor, is aggressive and can be
stubborn and self-indulgence. As a lover does not have
the size or stamina of a Bull!
Why isn't my Birthday here? I hear this often, the answer is simple, I rely on Plaxo to help me manage the 1200 people in Up Periscope's mailing list.
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April Birthdays 1st: Ross Britton
2nd: Keith Hatfield
3rd: Stuart Prigmore, Russell Clark, Phillip Bopf & Nick Carter
5th: Vernon (or Hazel?) Hancock & Werner Pelka
6th: Brian Linford
7th: Kevin Curtis, Irwin Schleicher & Arie de Rooy
8th: Steven Burgess
9th: Lindsay Peck, Michael Wood & Darren Thompson
11th: Susan O'Grady, Sandy Coulson & Scott Walker
13th: Eric Jones & Paul Gardiner
14th: Allan Sutton & Bruce Crane
13th: Paul Gardiner & Eric Jones
14th: Bruce Crane & Allan Sutton
15th: Mal Bridge, Terry Gannon, Helen Wyatt, Ian Sinclair &
Stuart Campbell
16th: Michael Norton
17th: Peter Russell, Howard Rutter, George Marriotto & Michael
Rikard-Bell
18th: Maurice Draper
19th: Ray Wilson
20th: Bob Trotter
21st: John Chambers
22nd: Terry Frost
23rd: Graham Morritt & Graeme Caesar
24th: Warren Humphrey & Brian Blackburn
25th: Peter Rixon
26th: Gordon Sexton
27th: Jon Davison
28th: Mathew Swanson
29th: Jan Edworthy & Mark Howard
30th: Ken Greig & Peter O'Donohue
May
1st: Henry Cook & Kevin Assenheim
3rd: Gerald Degen, Keith Dickson, Keith Hamilton & Mark Diggle
Birthday Calculator.
After you've finished reading the info, click again, and see what the moon looked like the night you were born.
Sick Parade
The following are on the sick list, if you
want contact details for any of them
send me an email.
A call or email from a friend is better than a dose of medicine.
Geoff White -
lymphoma Don Delosa - prostate cancer. Peter Vidler -
prostate and
bone cancer. Greg
(Penni)
Pennicuik - prostate cancer

Walk for Kids
Please go to
www.walkforkidswithcancer.com to register
your donation or to sponsor a walker. Bank details on website. Amount
pledged as of Day was $23,173.85.

Sunday, 27th
APRIL 2008
I was a little annoyed to receive the following email yesterday,
it reflects a problem that many organisations have, a lack of
inputt from their support base. The sender of the email said:
"I’ve just got back from attending the
Anzac Day march in Perth and was extremely disappointed in the
turnout from the Submarine Association. I’ve been going for the
last 4 years since I left the Puss and it disappoints me every
year, the lack of interest and organisation from the submarine
community. Each year I’ve attended at the end of each march
everyone just sort of disappears and there is nothing organised,
which is something the submarine community was never any good
at.
To say on the website we’ll meet at
Anzac House is not right, when there are thousands of other
servicemen and ex servicemen all trying to get a beer at the
same time and all squeezing in to a few square metres. (I know
we’re good at that) How many times did you return from patrol
with hardly any official recognition to greet the s/m and crew?
Not too often I bet. (Even the divers can organise a function at
the Navy Club in Freo) I don’t know if there is many more in
Rockingham, but maybe we should all march as one unit, either in
Perth or Rockingham so we don’t appear as insignificant as we
did today.
I believe we need to lift our game and
not just accept the poor attendances and organisation as
something submariners are good at, or we will become a joke in
the eyes of the skimmers. I know you normally do attend and
proudly represent the Association and this isn’t aimed at you. I
just had to get this off my chest or else I would have forgotten
it till the same thing happened next year and I guess eventually
people would maybe stop marching with the group or stop
altogether. Sorry to be a pain in the arse with my
whingeing but being an ex RN’er I’m allowed to."
I was not going to get involved in this, after all I am no
longer a WA Member, but I am not feeling great today, so I responded;
I can understand your disappointment, but to be fair to the
Committee, the support that the Committee received in the past
was less than encouraging. We arranged for a bar to be opened
for us a couple of years ago and about 6 turned up, a major
embarrassment! This was despite an awareness campaign on the
website and several requests for numbers attending. And you ask
why nothing is arranged?
In my time on the WA Committee we tried (usually in vain) to
organise events and meetings but were often unable to get
Members to show any interest. How many of these did you attend?
Every Member has an opportunity to voice their concern and to
put pressure on the committee to do more in the way of arranging
these things, they are called Branch Meetings. I am not sure if
I ever seen you at one in my time in WA?
Unless Members show some commitment it becomes harder for the
Committee to do likewise. WA, like many other Branches has to
recycle Committees year after year, not because they like it,
but because no other bastard is silly enough to volunteer.
Like so many others, you are quick to critiscise, but make no
effort to resolve the matter. If more Members would attend a
meeting and express their points of view, nothing will change.
This may seem like a personal attack, but the lack of support
given to the Association by submariners has pissed me off for
years. As you say "I just had to get this
off my chest or else I would have forgotten it till the same
thing happened next year and I guess eventually people would
maybe stop marching with the group or stop altogether."
Don't be a part of the problem, be a part of the Solution!
Our Association continues to grow, but unless there is more
involvement of Members, we are in danger of going backwards. The
numbers that attended ANZAC Day and marched with the Association
varied from state to state, some have reported a good turn out,
others not. Ask yourself "When did I last attend a SAA
Meeting or function?". If everyone tried to attend just
one a year it would make our Committees feel that their efforts
are justified.
My next door neighbour always makes a special effort with his
family on the weekends. Every Sunday morning he takes his 7-year
old granddaughter out for a drive in the car for some bonding
time. Just he and his granddaughter. This Sunday however, he was
away in France as part of an ANZAC Day group. Luckily, his wife
came to the rescue and said that she would take their
granddaughter out. When they returned, the little girl anxiously
ran up to her mother who said 'Well, did you enjoy your ride
with grandma?' 'Oh yes,' the girl replied, 'and do you know
what? We didn't see a single dumb bastard or lousy shit head
anywhere we went today!'
This weeks Log will be short and sweet, if your email did not
get a mention I will try and catch up during the week..
Around the Traps
The President
The National Executive have approved the appointment of Mr
Sid Czabotar to the Board of Trustees of the Submarine Association
Australia Welfare Fund, following the resignation of Mr Tim Everard.
The National Executive wishes to thank Tim for his long association with
the Board of Trustees. The Board compromises Tim Duchesne, Dave Bryant
and Sid Czabotar.
Note: I had to point out to our President that composes may be more
appropriate as I am sure Tim would never let himself be compromised -
the other two I am not too sure about!!! NW
ANZAC Day It seems that our call for submariners to unite and gather on ANZAC Day
had some measure of success and it is good to see that numbers appear to
have increased this year. Unfortunately family circumstances
restricted me to the Dawn Service, I would have liked to have attended
the March to catch up with some old mates and try and get a few beers
that are owed to me. Have had a few early reports and photos:
Queensland Secretary Rob Woolrych sent couple of photos and said
"In all a tad over 50 with us and a totally
enjoyable day. To a man we were thrilled and honoured to have ½
dozen Collins (‘C’ Boat) people with us and it was great to see the
obvious rapport with our old and not so old members during our social
time later at the Coorparoo RSL." The large turn out is a credit
to the Branch, and it was great to see a couple of familiar Collins
faces in the group.
John 'Fred' Fisher has been known to sink a schooner or two and going by
the photo he sent, ANZAC Day was no exception.
"Hope you had a good day yesterday Mate. We had a Brahma I have enclosed
a picture of Bob (Budgie) Hibberd, myself in the middle and Steve (Taff)
Jones at Doyalson Wyee RSL taken after the two services and the march.
Never seen so many there before, it is getting bigger every year."
Even the smaller towns around the country did their best
to 'show the flag' and Paul 'Diesel' Dann said
"Howdy Norm, Just a quick snap of the very small contingent of
Submariners who marched in Ballina this year, still 4 is better than
none..." Yes mate, it certainly is.
Dave 'Goldie' Horne, shown in photo from Cairns with Al
Short (green cap), looks a little 'tired and confused'. Maybe it
is his medication and I am just being cruel?
As an aside, David Holland reported that some joker put
the Submariners between the WRANs and the WRENS for the Sydney Anzac Day
March. - talk about the 'meat' between the 'sandwich' - pity most are
beyond the days when the hormones ran freely. I had a giggle
at this but it got me thinking - I always thought that Australian and
New Zealand always marched first and the allies came at the end.
Why is it that we are seeing more RN contingents (such as the WRENS) in
the main body?
Fred Lawrence,
WA President, reports "ANZAC Day dawned bright and
clear in Perth with more than 30,000 people at the Dawn Service at the
State War memorial in King's Park. Neil Forbes, along with other members
of the WA Branch, was present at the Service and laid a wreath on our
behalf. As part of the Returned Services Naval Contingent we formed up
in Barrack Street for the parade. About 20 members were in attendance
with apologies from five members who were interstate/overseas and from
two members reporting sick for the parade. Along with the regular
attendees it was pleasing to see some newer faces including four
Uniformed Qualified Submariners who have promised to join the
Association. We were also graced with the presence of Rip Mahoney,
(Ovens plank owner) over on a visit from Queensland. Our banner was
proudly carried by LS Waklin and AB Gissing from the Submarine
School. AB Gissing is the son of Ray Gissing so it is pleasing to see
the tradition being handed down from father to son.
With the completion of work for the Perth Mandurah Railway, the Parade
reverted to the traditional route , west along St George Terrace with
the salute being taken by the Governor Of Western Australia adjacent to
Trinity Church. The Parade was very well attended with many Units on
parade and a very large crowd . As far as the ABC film crew were
concerned we must have been /"deep and quiet"/ as we “/came unseen”/ -
not featuring in the telecast of the parade.
ANZAC House was identified as a
watering hole post parade as in recent years organised venues have not
been supported. Very few of the attendees made it there. Although the
numbers attending may seem small it should be noted that many members
would have attended their own local parades supporting Naval
Associations, RSLs or even other Ship’s Associations. Our challenge is
to bring them together to march with the SAA (WA Branch).
Apart from our Secretary receiving about seven apologies, the committee
had no indication of members’ intentions or wishes. In order to continue
as a viable association members do need to communicate and contribute -
not leave it to just to the few. Having said that it may be time again
to review where the WA Branch attends the Anzac Day Parade, as although
State Television coverage is available in Perth (except this year) most
members are located in the Rockingham Area and it may be more
appropriate to march in the parade there. Food for thought for our
members!"
Gallipoli Submarine
I received some good feedback on Gallipoli Submarine that went air on April 24 on
the ABC, obviously the message got out and many of you managed to catch
it. I made myself a coffee, a small cheese platter and a poured a
glass of port and sat down to watch it in comfort at 2025, woke up at
2330 by which time the coffee had gone cold. Luckily the neighbour
taped it. The interest that the SIA has been able to generate on
AE2 is commendable, great groundwork for our 100th anniversary of
submarines.

Mailbag
LCDR
JJ (Jeff) Williams sent this timely and interesting note
"Still in the UK working up ships for FOST. Coped
a classic the other day and so close to Anzac Day; I was working up a
Turkish FFG, the TCG GEMLIK, I was in their Petty Officers Mess giving a
Damage Control presentation when a painting on the bulkhead caught my
eye. When some of the Turks started having a chuckle I decided to pause
my lecture and have a closer look. The painting was of AE2 surrendering
to the Turkish Gunboat complete with the Ship's Company on the casing
with their hands in the air. The Turks took great delight in explaining
what a victory the capture of AE2 was as far as their history was
concerned. I tried to explain that LCDR Stoker managed to scuttle the
boat so technically the submarine was not captured but they would not
have a bar of it. Anyway the TCG GEMLIK did pretty good during their
workups and were a great bunch of blokes. A photo of the painting is
attached (select thumbnail to see larger image).
As an aside, I head back to Australia at the end of the year for CO
Desig course before taking command of Aware 1 and driving a flash new
Armidale Class Patrol Boat - dirty job but someone has to do it. Cheers
Mate." Congratulations on the course mate, we need more
dolphin wearers showing the skimmers how it should be done.
Bob
(Budgie) and Marie Hibberd are on the move. Bob wrote
"I spent ANZAC Day at the Doyalson/Wyee RSL Club
with Fred Fisher and Taff Jones today. A bit wet with the rain but we
still managed to get a march in and the services were held in the RSL
Auditorium. It turned out a really good day and both Taff and Fred said
to say hello. I will be retiring in August this year when I turn
55. Marie and I will be heading for the UK to live in October. I
intend joining the Submarine Association and maybe a few other
organisations when there. If you know of any organisations (that
wouldn't mind a "dink" in their midst) and have any contacts I'd
appreciate your help here too. How many expats are there from the
Squadron now living in the UK?" Just what they need,
another bloody Dink to show them how to drink! Budgie, there are a
few over there, I will send you details.
There is a new study about women and how they feel about their arses.
The results were pretty interesting:
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30% of women think their arse is too fat
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10% of women think their arse is too skinny
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The remaining 60% say they don't care, they love
him, he's a good man, and they wouldn't trade him for the world.
WA member Bill Lee writes "I have a son who lives
at Parkwood on the Gold Coast, I will be going over to holiday with him
and his family for two or three weeks on May 2nd. I am not aware Where
Bauple is but it sounds like it may be further up North."
This looks like a chance to get a beer or two off the old bugger, I may
drive down the coast to say g'day.
NSW President Col 'Wallaby' Ware has featured in the Sick List since his
little heart flutter a few weeks back. He reports
"I have just returned from my appointment with a
second cardiologist who specialises in what my heart is doing (atrial
fibrillation) as the first specialist had a specialty of stints and I do
not need one of those at the moment. I have atrial fibrillation and also
had a TIA, which is like a stroke or a precursor to a stroke without the
major damage to the brain. Now had I been a dibdab that would not have
mattered. Anyway the symptoms of a TIA was just like being the drunkest
you have ever been without having a drink. Blurred vision, wobbly boot
syndrome, room spins and chucking up. Atrial fibrillation is when the
top part of the heart just quivers instead of solid pumps to get the
blood around the body and because it is not pumping all of the blood out
of the heart each beat, there is the possibility of blood clots being
shot out and into the brain or creating blood clots elsewhere in the
body.
To stop the clots forming they have put me onto
medication called Warfarin which thins the blood and hopefully prevents
blood clots forming. My new cardiologist has advised me that I will
probably be on this medication as well as medication to settle the heart
beat (was 20-190) but is now 69 for the rest of my life and assures me
that being on the medication will not reduce my life span, so we do hope
he is right with that. I should also be able to travel overseas again
next year all being equal and no more nasty turns as the travel
insurance fraternity do not like these medical problems and refuse to
insure you...
Anyway Norm thank you for your interest and
continued support and I hope to see you in Canberra" Come
on Col, DibDabs may not have a brain, but the do have feelings! I think
the thing that most worries Col is the fact that he can only have two
beers per day perhaps on his medication.
An old Chief RS recently returned from Thailand with his new Thai bride.
Lying in bed, the Thai bride is playing with his manhood, slowly up and
down, and the old boy says "You must love that, you haven't left
it alone, since we got back." The bride replied, "No, not
really, I just miss mine."
Congratulations
to Bill Bacon who is a proud new grandfather. He wrote
"Hi All, here is a photo of my first
granddaughter, Katherine Leigh Matheson. She is only 2 days old,
and was born on Thursday afternoon." Get a haircut Bill!
In a recent survey, people from Queensland have proved to be the most
likely to have had sex in the shower! In the survey, carried out
for a leading toiletries firm that sells "Old Spice", a whopping
86% of banana benders said that they have enjoyed sex in the shower.
The other 14% said they hadn't been to prison, yet.
Peter
Smith asks "I have a question to ask our web
readers. Can anyone put the exact name to the boat and the year the
photo was taken off Sydney in the 1970s. There is no information
appended to the photo. My first recollection of this exercise was
in Onslow in either 1972 or 73, however I do not recall if we did a day
exercise, I do know we did a night exercise. One of the SAS said later
that being out at night waiting to be picked up can be very scary until
the periscope takes up the rope between the canoes."
In response to Peter's query, Fred Lawrence replied
"During our first year back in Australia in 1970,
HMAS OVENS acted as the inserting /recovering boat for special boat
operations up in BrokenBay. Our present Governor General was an SAS
Captain and OIC of the special boats detachment that was embarked. The
photo could have been Ovens as there were daylight drills prior to
conducting night ops.
They were deployed from the submarine after conducting a "gun action
surface", the canoes pulled up out of the forward torpedo loading hatch,
rigged, with soldiers sitting in them then the submarine diving allowing
them to float off. Recovery was at times difficult. The canoes were
spaced about 30 metres apart, tethered to one and other by a long
painter. Each canoe had a hand cranked noise making instrument called a
Bongle which was meant to allow the canoe's bearing to be determined and
the recovery submarine to steam between them at PD, catching the painter
and towing them clear of an enemy shore. Once in safe waters, the boat
surfaced and canoes recovered alongside and re-embarked down the torpedo
loading hatch.
In my first boat, HMS Astute, on deployment in the Persian Gulf, we
carried out a similar exercise, with Royal Marines and inflatable Zodiac
type craft. Because they were bulky, and difficult to rig in a
hurry they were embarked, upside down and deflated, lashed to the
casing. On surfacing the Booties inflated the boats, rigged them and
jumped in ready to float off. The order to dive the submarine was
given and all our Captain saw was a Booty trying to chew through a line
which had not been undone. A hurried order to surface saw all the
boats tipped over - Wet Booties and red faces all-round."
Steve Sanders from Lismore writes "I received this
email from my uncle in South Africa. As you can see he served in boats
from 1957 - 1967. I thought the first boat he served on was rather
unique. Hope it is of some interest." Steve's uncle, Pete
Flicker, wrote "Regarding submarines, I served in
four between 1957 and 1967. The first was HMS Explorer an experimental
high
speed submarine that ran on Hydrogen peroxide, an extremely volatile
liquid she was affectionately known as old Exploder (photo). The fuel
was stored in pvc bags outside the pressure hull covered with lightly
secured steel plates, so that if it did explode, it would blow off the
plates rather than the pressure hull. She did, however provide high
speed targets for ASW ships prior to the nuclear age. The second
was HMS Aneas, long range submarine built for the war in the Pacific
towards the end of the second world war. The third was HMS Seraph,
she had a very interesting war time history and there are several web
sites and a couple of books devoted to her story. When I joined her she
was 20 years old and used as a training target for dummy torpedoes. The
fourth was HMS Cachalot, this was a “P” class submarine that directly
preceded the “O” and was almost identical to the “O” class."
Interesting site -
Tommy Cox - KURSK -
Tribute to Lost Russian Submarine
LEUT George
Lakey sent an example of RN submarine recruiting that he said is very common in
the local pubs in Glasgow. He added "A word of
advice, be wary of taking your camera out when in a urinal in Glasgow –
it gives the locals the wrong idea." George has just
returned from witnessing trials for REMORA (Vancouver) and LARS
(Glasgow), the RAN is getting the submarine rescue capability back into
service after the mishap with REMORA a while back.
I was having trouble with my computer. So I called Eric, the 11 year old
next door, whose bedroom looks like Mission Control, to come over. Eric
clicked a couple of buttons and solved the problem. As he
was walking away, I called after him, 'So, what was wrong?'
He replied, 'It was an ID ten T error. ' I didn't want to appear stupid,
but nonetheless inquired, 'An, ID ten T error? What's that .... In case
I need to fix it again?' Eric grinned.... 'Haven't you ever heard of an
ID ten T error before?' 'No,' I replied. 'Write it down,' he
said, 'and I think you'll figure it out.' So I wrote down: ID10 T.
I used to like Eric.............
Eternal Patrol -
Robert 'Bob' Ross
Robert 'Bob' Ross passed away on Friday,
18th April in South Australia's Central Districts Cancer Care unit after
a long fight with cancer in the pancreas and kidneys. Our thoughts go
out to Kate and family in this time of great sadness.
Robert better known to his peers
as Bob, joined his first submarine HMAS Ovens in 1970 after completing
his initial submarine training at HMS Dolphin and returning to
Australia. Bob spent two years in Ovens before transferring to HMAS
Otway in 1972 and spent the next three years in her before leaving her
in 1995. In 1976, Bob returned to the UK to join as commissioning
crew of HMAS Orion and returned to Australia via the Suez Canal.
In 1979 Bob left Orion and the Navy as a LSMTPSM. He joined the SAA in
September 1989
Peter Smith
South Australia's Branch President, Fred Butcher, wrote
"The service for Bob Ross was held in the Folland
Chapel located in the Enfield Memorial Park Cemetery. There was a large
attendance with a very strong submarine contingent (I counted in excess
of 17 from Bob’s time in boats) with condolences coming from many unable
to attend. A piper dressed in the Ross Kilt play the sky boat song
during the committal with a sailor in uniform and bugle the last post
with a close friend reciting the ode. The coffin was draped with the
white ensign, Bob’s medals and several photo many of which from his time
in the navy. The submariner’s pray was included in the eulogy in all a
very moving service with a nice naval touch."
Kate (Bob’s second wife) asked that I pass on her thanks to all who had
sent messages of condolence. (I noted several messages from ex navy
attached to the condolence book).
'When one cries, we all cry'
I was a young part 3 ABETS on
Orion when I first meet Bob, he was a great submariner and help all the
part 3’s. I was always a pleasure to catch up with Bob on Anzac day and
have a chat. He will be sadly missed by all. Ray Kemp
I was saddened to hear about Bob
passing away today. On behalf of my family here in Brisbane please
accept our deepest condolences on such a sad occasion. I
commissioned HMAS Orion with Bob in Scotland in 1976 and as a young
sailor I will always remember Bob teaching me the correct way to do
things in the Donkshop for safety reasons as he ensured that anyone on
his watch never got hurt (especially the greenies). I have always
remembered his words of wisdom and I still carry on this trait today in
my line of work thanks to Bob. We will have a tot in remembrance to such
a fine sailor who will be sadly missed but never forgotten as he was a
brother under the seas. Don Currell (Duck Run)
I am saddened to hear of the
passing of Bob Ross. I last saw him in Adelaide last year and we had a
long talk about our EXPED hitchhiking from Lands End to John O Groats
and back to Glasgow while awaiting Orion to commission. We were only
allowed to hitchhike and sleep in tents and sleeping bags lent to us by
the Royal Marines. Dave (Goldie) Horne
Bob will be remembered as being a
great guy and I was proud to have served with him on several occasions -
many fond memories. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and
friends. Norm Williams
Please forward to Bob’s family our
deepest sympathies, sense of loss and sadness at the news of Bob’s
passing. Mike Bennett
All my condolences with the family
of Bob Ross. Roberto Lunardo - French Submariner (SAA member in
Noumea)
Lost or missing Members?
The following members are either lost, strayed or stolen as their
correspondence has been returned as either left or not at that address.
If any member knows of their new address could they contact me by fax on
02 9557 1480 or email Peter Smith.
M Barnes, RB Dening, K Rylands, WS Sim, DC Nichols, LCKSM JP Metcalf, RL
Lane, WD Smith, GK Davis, H James, TR Tunnbridge, AS Osborne, Leut SP
Godbold RAN (Rtd), RW Anderson and LG Muir.
Remember, the National Executive are always available to listen to what
you have to say, if you have a suggestion or want to air your concerns,
contact us.
X-Rated Riddles
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Q. What's a mixed feeling?
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Repairs sideline submarines
The Courier Mail's Ian McPhedran reported on April 23rd that only three
of the Australian navy's fleet of six Collins submarines are available
to help defend the nation. Three boats – HMAS Rankin, Sheean and
Dechaineux – are laid up at the ASC yard in Adelaide for major
maintenance. A fourth boat, HMAS Waller, was forced into dock in Western
Australia after an acid leak from its main battery following a major
overhaul.
The battery was replaced last year but an insider said
poor maintenance plugs allowed acid to leak on to the top of the battery
cell. Waller is back at sea undergoing trials before travelling to the
US for a major multinational navy exercise. The navy refused to confirm
Waller's battery breakdown because it says the information is
classified.
The incident followed hot on the heels of a decision by
navy chiefs to send a submarine to New Zealand for a navy exercise
despite knowing that it had a "suspect" main battery. An insider
told The Courier-Mail that a specific warning was issued in April last
year stating that the eight-year-old battery on HMAS Rankin had
"significant safety and performance implications". Quoting from the
warning letter, the whistleblower said the navy was told to replace the
battery as early as possible "to avoid any potential catastrophic
incident on Rankin".
The
acting commander of the navy fleet, Commodore Simon Cullen, denied the
sub had any battery problems. "Rankin completed a successful deployment
to New Zealand as programmed and dived for the bulk of her recent
deployment without any limitations due to her battery," he said. However
the whistleblower said the main battery performed poorly during the
exercise.
Faslane submariner set for Mr Gay UK finals
A sailor is hoping to sink his rivals to be crowned Mr Gay
UK. Davie Henderson, 23, will represent Scotland in the finals of
the competition and is hoping to swap the high seas for the catwalk.
The submariner, based at Faslane Naval Base in Dunbartonshire, has been
in the Royal Navy for six years, serving on nuclear subs HMS Sovereign
and Vengeance. Davie, of Paisley, who hopes to have a career as a model,
said: "My dream would be to model for someone like Jean Paul Gaultier or
Valentino. "Gaultier loves the sailor look, so you never know. "All my
friends pushed me into going for it and told me I should be modelling. I
wasn't sure myself but am glad I did now."
Davie beat 30 other contenders in the regional heat in Glasgow at the
weekend to become the first of Scotland's three contenders. He is now
pumping iron every day in the run-up to the finals in Blackpool in June,
where he will take on 10 other competitors.
He will be cheered on by carloads of friends and Navy pals. And he
is considering using the Village People song In The Navy as his backing
track. He added: "It would be absolutely amazing to bring the title back
to Scotland. I am determined to upstage the other finalists and will be
working out every day to make sure I look my best."
Davie, who will leave the service in the next few months, told his pals
two years ago that he was gay. And, despite the macho forces culture, he
was accepted without question by his fellow sailors. He said: "I was
worried what the other guys would think but they were all fine with it."
"The Navy has been a great experience and I have travelled around the
world.
"It was hard being under water for five months at a time, although you
do get used to it. "But I've done my time now and I want to try
something different."
China's underground nuclear submarine base
China is building a large underground nuclear submarine base at its
sub-tropical Hainan Island, says Jane's Information Group, specialists
in military intelligence. Jane's says it was first informed by Asian
defence sources about the construction of the base five years ago, but
has now been able to confirm this through high-resolution, newly
commercially available satellite imagery.
The Chinese navy has rapidly acquired a blue-water capacity. It has 57
submarines, five of them nuclear-powered, with many of them equipped
with Yingji-8 anti-ship cruise missiles that they can launch while still
submerged. It underlined this capacity 18 months ago when a 75m
long Song S20 class vessel, built in the Wuhan shipyard, with unusually
quiet German diesel engines, suddenly surfaced in the middle of an
American battle fleet. The submarine appeared within 8km of the US
aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk, in international waters not far from
Japan's southern island of Okinawa.
The new Yulin submarine base is located near Sanya, a fast developing
resort centre on the south of Hainan. It was at Sanya where Prime
Minister Kevin Rudd and China's President Hu Jintao met 12 days ago.
The island, half the size of Tasmania, is best known for tourism and
tropical fruit, and has also hosted most of the recent Miss World
contests.
It is about 200km from the Vietnam coast. Jane's says the extent of
construction revealed by the DigitalGlobe imagery indicates Yulin could
become a key base for aircraft carriers and other large surface craft,
as well as for submarines. The first type 094 second-generation
nuclear ballistic missile submarine was shifted there last December.
Jane's says such a base has implications "for China's control of the
South China Sea and the strategically vital straits in the area, and
underlines Beijing's desire to assert tighter control over this region".
Typically, China has offered no public explanation of this development,
which has strategic implications for the hotly disputed Spratly Islands
- believed to be oil-rich - within the South China Sea where China and
Vietnam have the most extensive claims, as well as for the busy shipping
lanes between Europe, Southeast Asia and North Asia, and for Taiwan,
900km north-east of Hainan. And Jane's adds: "China's increasing
dependence on imported petroleum and mineral resources has contributed
to an intensified concern about defending its access to vital sea lanes,
particularly to its south."
Taiwan's National Security Council recently reported that the number of
tactical ballistic missiles deployed by China against it had reached
more than 1400 at the start of this year, augmented by more than 190
cruise missiles. The council said China's navy, with more than 1000
vessels and 250,000 personnel, was acquiring the capacity to blockade
Taiwan.
Taiwan is itself set to spend $12.3billion on eight diesel-electric
attack submarines that it would buy from the US, although selection of
the prime contractor would probably take a further 15 months. A decision
on that purchase is expected shortly after the May 20 inauguration of
Taiwan's new president, Ma Ying-jeou. Taiwan already has two
Dutch-built Hai-lung (Sea Dragon) submarines, and two former US World
War II-era submarines that are used only for training.
A report produced earlier this month by Asian Security Affairs
specialist Shirley Kan for the US Congressional Research Service said:
"The People's Liberation Army has continued to build up its forces that
threaten Taiwan, raising the question of whether the military balance
already has shifted to favour China."
If Mr Ma's Kuomintang party negotiates a withdrawal of the missiles
targeting Taiwan, says the report, Taiwan's own "military deployments
and missile programs could be subject to China's demands".
Come on
Boof, I'll give you a bath...
Sunday, 20th
APRIL 2008
I have spent the week replacing my front deck this week,
time consuming and painful. It had reached a stage where it was
dangerous but I kept putting it off until the concrete was finished, but
I have given up on that ever happening. Still no show, about 20%
of concrete laid in nearly 6 months and still no driveway access.
It seems that Fair Trading are a toothless tiger and now it looks like I
will have to see a solicitor. At least I have an excuse to
drink....
I am off to Sydney in the next day or so, my sister - in
-law has spent the last 18 months fighting cancer and just as everything
started to look good she has had a major set back and things are not
looking too rosey. I am off to cheer her and the brother up.
ANZAC Day is almost here and I hope that all submariners make an effort
to march together. Frank Owens, urged SIA Members
"If you're up to it and there is a group near
where you live, why not march with submariners on Anzac Day? We should
start demonstrating a buildup in numbers as our campaign to have AE2
recognised as part of the ANZAC legend gains momentum."
I was interested in a comment made recently by Queensland Branch
Secretary Rob Woolrych. "There seems to be a
“mindset” among the Collins Class ex-submariners that they are not
welcome in the SAA which in simple terms is total “rubbish”. We have
Queensland members from ‘H’, ‘U’,’XE’, ‘S’, ‘T’, ‘A’, ‘P’, ‘O’,
plus SSN’s and SSBN’s so I just cannot fathom why Collins Class should
consider they are not wanted." We are getting a few Collins
members, but the lack of interest is a sign of the times. I know
at the submarine school we tried hard to advertise the Association.
We sent pamphlets to all the boats and yet I could not get them
interested. Come on, join us now and I will give a free cap to the
next 10 Collins qualified Members.
Only a short entry today, feeling a bit off, had a bad night's sleep and
have a sick dog.
Around the Traps
President's update
ANZAC Day is here again, it is your chance to get out and
meet old mates and honour those that are no longer with us.
encourage all submariners, be they Association Members or not, to join
us on this important day. Lest We Forget.
Gallipoli Submarine Launch
Mike Bennett and Keith Hatfield
attended an official launch of the showing of "Gallipoli Submarine".
He writes "The show will go to air on April 24 on
the ABC at 2030 hours and is thoroughly recommended. It is interesting,
factual and at times, quite dramatic. It does star two of our finest
submariners, Peter Briggs and Mike Rikard-Bell, so the quality of the
production is first class. My/our humblest congratulations to the entire
production team for putting together this fine release - and of course
the engineering, diving, medical etc etc teams who are making the
conservation of the AE2 a reality. Mike and the team are returning
to Turkey in the near future and he, hopefully, will be addressing our
function down at Frankston in May to give us the very latest update."
Fred Lawrence attended the WA Launch "On Thursday
night I was invited to attend the national launch of the TV documentary/
movie, GALLIPOLI SUBMARINE at the Maritime Museum in Fremantle. This
documentary, a composite of Gallipoli history, underwater footage taken
of the AE2 and the expeditioners in September last year, CGI coupled
with dramatisation using actors and a very realistic submarine set built
at Channel 9 in Perth tells the AE2 story extremely well. It will go to
air on the ABC in the evening of Wednesday 24 April and should be
considered compulsory viewing for all submariners and submarine history
buffs. BZ to the Submarine Institute of Australia whose efforts made
this possible.
War Veterans and Dole Bludgers - Not True!
Recent reports that Allan Griffin MP, Minister for Veterans Affairs,
will institute processes to streamline payments by the Department to veterans are unfounded.
It has been reported online and as a result there have been many email
floating around upsetting many.
The story said that after a successful trial in regional
Australia, more DVA pension functions will be transferred to Centrelink
offices in larger cities, including capital cities. 'In fact, utilising
Centrelink for pension assessment and payment reduces duplication of
services. Centrelink is already well established to handle a variety of
pension and disability payments to Australians and does so in a most
efficient manner, so it makes sense to consolidate all such claims and
payments through one single agency,' he said.
Max Hardy responded to my request for clarification, it
seemed strange that there had been no press release, with
"Gentlemen, I am Assured by the Ministers office
this is absolute BULLSHIT, Allan Griffin denies any such intention. This
should rank alongside a working party to consider the replacement
submarine only it’s not the 1st of April. Put it to bed IT IS BULLSHIT."
Mailbag
Kevin Christensen writes "I am following your
adventures with much amusement, a bit like my aircon installation, still
waiting for the plumber 18 months on. I noticed the message in last
weeks Log, it looks distinctively like something that used to regularly
fall out of my pocket accidentally when leaving or entering the after
mess, no doubt posted a little late to allow people to relax. Keep up
the good work." I am glad to see that I am not the only one
having trouble with 'professional' tradies.
Bruce
Patch, fellow Ovens plank owner asked "I'm out
west at my Daughter/Son-in-Laws property near Kynuna and have been
telling tales of our days in Subs. A question came us about
how much diesel we carried and even though I've done the trim a few
times I can't remember the volume. Can you help me out with this
one?" I immediately reported this to our former Chief
Stoker and Mentor Graeme Gilbert, pictured here with Bruce on a recent
Divisional outing. Shame Bruce!
Pat Ross asks "Greetings from the UK! On behalf of
a fellow member of the North Staffs Submarine Association I'm trying to
get a message to Richard 'Dickie' Pearse who served on HMS Thorough in
1957. Unfortunately when trying to use the e mail address on your web
site my message keeps getting bounced back as undeliverable. Any ideas
why or suggestions as to how I can get in touch (besides snail mail
which will take forever)." Another case of changing email
without letting us know. Dickie, if you are out there please contact
Pat.
Sandy Freeleagus commented on last week's Log
"Congratulations to HMAS RANKIN for taking out the Gloucester Cup.
Was quite concerned at the photos though. Since when did they let
submariners be in a guard and holy cow - who gave submariners firearms?
I know we had the shark guard for Hands to Bathing Stations - but he was
only there to shoot the slowest swimmer if a shark got too close. (You
know - sacrifice one for the good of the others). And in reference
to the Naval Capability Allowance - I am quite willing to come back and
man Otway's casing in Holbrook for only $10,000.00 - a bargain. I spent
a vast number of years on that casing (especially early Monday mornings)
not game to go down below as I was expecting to be told (1) No1
telemotor pump starter is overheating, (2) the trim pump has flashed
over (3) EM's So-and So's Mrs. rang in and he won't be in because their
dog got run over and (4) they want to put on a charge and the engines
won't start. Second thoughts - make that $15,000.00."
ASC's Deputy Chief Executive Officer, Ross Milton attended the recent
book launch for 'The
Collins Class Submarine Story - Steel, Spies and Spin' in
Sydney. He wrote "It was a great event for those
of us who were involved. It was very well attended by many involved with
the project over the years - say 100 people. Geoff Davis, John White,
Hans Ohff, Geoff Rose, Oscar, Graham White, Rod Dicker, Peter Briggs,
Andrew Johnson, Harry Anderson, Andy Millar, Greg Stuart, Rick Nielsen,
Olle Holmdahl, John Ritter, Admirals Chambers, Oxenbould & Ritchie,
David Whiley, Boyd Robinson, Brian Oxley etc, etc. Some of them looked
quite old, and so hard to recognise! Beasley gave a brilliant
speech – “the submarine remains Australia’s greatest industrial icon”.
He lamented that it has not been recognised for the great success it
is." During my period with ASC (1987-2007) I was fortunate to
have been involved with many of these people, a dedicated lot indeed.
Details on how to order the book can be found in the Slops Van.
Rick Fishbourne noticed this ad for 'Wonder Cream for women' He
added "I think the Chinese will have had a great
deal of Western input re spelling and diction by the time the Olympics
are through..." Think before you hit the thumbnail, it may
be naughty!
Les Rawson has been web surfing and said "This is
one of the funniest things I have watched in years, and couldn't not
forward
the link. I don't
know if you put links in the news letter, but I think this might just
amuse your readers." Of course I do Les, a good one indeed.
Peter Smith tells me he has a new hobby. He writes "I bought a racehorse
today.I've decided to call him "My Face". I don't care if he never wins
a race or makes me any money. I just want to hear thousands
of those posh tarts at Flemington calling out "Come On My Face"
Lee Passey, LSCIS3SM on HMAS Ovens and later HMAS Sheean before moving
to Montreal (Canada) has sent an entry for Buddies which will be online
ASAP. He said "I miss the time in boats made some
good friends and had some good runs ashore. Now working with the
Canadian Army lucky enough to get to wear my dolphins on my army
uniform, always a good talking point during parade inspections."
The old submarine Coxswain walked into Proud's jewelry store in
Maryborough last Friday evening with a beautiful young girl at his side.
He told the jeweler he was looking for a special ring for his
girlfriend. The jeweler looked through his stock and brought out a
$5,000 ring. The old man said, 'No, I'd like to see something more
special.' At that statement, the jeweler went to his special stock and
brought another ring over. 'Here's a stunning ring at only $40,000' the
jeweler said. The young lady's eyes sparkled and her whole body
trembled with excitement.
The old man seeing this said, 'We'll take it.'
The jeweler asked how payment would be made and the old Coxswain stated,
'by cheque. I know you need to make sure my cheque is good, so I'll
write it now and you can call the bank Monday to verify the funds and
I'll pick the ring up Monday afternoon,' he said.
Monday morning, the jeweler phoned the Coxswain. 'There's no money in t
hat account.' 'I know,' replied the Coxswain, 'But let me tell you
about my weekend!
The ABC will broadcast the story of AE 2 -
'Gallipoli Submarine' Documentary at 8.30pm on the eve of Anzac Day -
Thursday 24th April 2008 (this is a change from the originally planned
date of 22 April 08).
HMAS Leeuwin 28th Intake Website
John Hogg is very active in notifying veterans of items of interest in
his regular email and I use much of the information that he provides in
the Log. John hosts the website
HMAS
Leeuwin 28th Intake to assist in locating all the Junior Recruits
who enlisted with him in July 1969 from the 28th intake at HMAS Leeuwin.
Of this intake there were approximately 205 boys between the age of 15
and 17 in the original intake, however only 184 eventually passed out.
Some boys were to become Midshipman at HMAS Cresswell via the Topman
scheme, some had transferred to RANATE HMAS Nirimba for Apprentice
training and a couple disappeared which we and RAN records cannot
account for.
The intention is to celebrate the 40th anniversary with
a huge reunion of the Mighty 28th Intake in 2009. Of course, the whole
concept of a reunion can only be achieved if they can find as many
intake members as possible.
This site is dedicated to those who joined the Royal
Australian Navy in July 1969 and went on to become the 28th Collins &
Walton Intake. It is also for all the Junior Recruits that passed
through the gates of HMAS Leeuwin who are still serving in uniform,
civvies or just plain retired.
It is anticipated that this website will remain active
for many years to come, providing a written and pictorial history of all
their endeavors and achievements. It will also become focal point where
JRs can remain in contact well into the future.
Greenies Reunion
Dave Luck, being a silly person of the green persuasion passed on the
following information. "This is probably painful
for a dedicated purple person to hear, but the greenies are having a
reunion in Mildura on 17/18/19 October. All the details are on the
website
www.pussersgreenies.org. Could you put this in the log to
inform any interested persons, perhaps a group of real sailors can stir
up the skimmers." David, if 'real sailors' turned up it
would become a Stoker's Reunion!
Here
is a chance to pick up stationary cheap (or even free) from
VistaPrint. When you click through to their site and place
your first VistaPrint order, you will receive a special promotion and
the website will earn VistaCash that helps pay for the site's
stationary. So order your own personal "business" cards
and stationary now.
Mother Superior called all the nuns together and
said to them, 'I must tell you all something. We have a case of
gonorrhea in the convent.' 'Thank God,' said an elderly nun at the
back. 'I'm so tired of chardonnay.
SIA
News
Frank Owen,
Honorary Treasurer of the Submarine Institute of Australia has advised
Members that Registrations are now open for the SIA 4th Biennial
Conference to be held at the ANU's Shine Dome in Canberra on 6-7
November 2008. The event will kick off with an opening Cocktail Party on
the evening of Wednesday 5th and that this year pricing has been
adjusted and also includes an early-bird rate.
In a note to SIA Members Michael White wrote "I had
indicated to some of you earlier that I would write something for one of
the major papers for publicity about the AE2 project. I wrote an
article, which was published today, 18.4.08, in ‘The Australian’. The
article did not mention the SIA and its good work. This was unfortunate
but the original article, which I attach, did mention the SIA and the
people and the Workshop but the Features Editor said she would have to
cut it back and this part of it she took out. I am sorry about that but
I had the option of pulling the whole article or going along with the
shorter one. I decided it was in the interests of our AE2 endeavors to
go along with the shorter one so I hope you agree that it was the better
choice. At least, being a major feature article, it will help the AE2
public profile, along with the ABC1 program on 24th April, at a time
that should enhance our aims for the Workshop in Istanbul on 26-27
April." The original article (and the version finally published in
The Australian) are available in SIA News.
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Book Watch
'Novel' way to deliver a submarine
Anticipating a showdown with Iran, Israel decides secretly to deploy a
submarine off its arch-foe's coast. But how? The quickest route
from Israel's Mediterranean coast is via the Suez Canal, which runs
through Egypt and which the classified vessels shun. So the submarine is
hidden in the belly of a commercial tanker, which delivers it to the
Gulf.
Such is the plot of an Israeli thriller, 'Undersea Diplomacy'. Does it
hold water? Perhaps not. Then again, the author, Shlomo Erell, is no
mere novelist. He's an ex-admiral with experience in Israel's most
sensitive military planning. "It's pure fiction, but it's informed
fiction," he said simply, when asked if his book reflects how Israeli
fleet of Dolphin-class submarines could be used against Iran, whose
leadership has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map", stoking
international concern over Tehran's nuclear programme.
Israel has three Dolphins, with two more on order from Howaldtswerke-Deutsche
Werft, a German shipyard custom-building them at a steep discount as
part of Berlin's bid to shore up a Jewish state founded in the wake of
the Nazi Holocaust. The submarines are a subject of deepest secrecy
given speculation that they carry nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.
Iran denies seeking nuclear weapons, and independent experts say it is
years away from any such capability.
If you have read a good submarine/navy book
lately, or know of a new release, send me the details.
An
85 year old gentleman had been complaining of stomach pains so went to
the doctors surgery and of course took his good lady wife along with
him, as they do! The Doctor gave the gentleman an examination,
then said to the old gentleman that he wished to conduct some further
tests for which he would require a urine, stool and semen sample. The
old gentleman who was hard of hearing turned to his wife and said 'what
did he say'? The wife replied 'he said, he wants your underpants!'
Overseas News Items
Submariners hail submarine visit
Former submariners told of their
delight at the arrival of the nuclear submarine HMS Sceptre at Portland.
Members of the Dorset branch of the Submariners' Association hailed the
timing of the visit as coinciding with the 50th anniversary of the visit
of the world's first nuclear- powered submarine, the USS Nautilus to
Portland, in 1958.
They include Rupert Best, president of the Dorset Submariners'
Association, who was second in charge of HMS Sceptre in its early days.
Robbie Roberts, chairman of the Dorset Branch of the Submariners'
Association, said: "We are delighted that Sceptre is coming so soon
after Tireless which, at the end of last year, made the first visit to
Portland by a nuclear submarine since Portland Port took over the former
Naval Base in 1996. "They can be assured of a warm welcome by former
submariners in this part of the world and we look forward to seeing a
strong team at a reception we will be holding for them.
"The commanding officer will be taking advantage of the opportunity to
award dolphins, the badge earned by all ranks once they have completed
the demanding requirements to be a fully qualified submariner, and he
has invited our senior member, Gordon Newman, who served in X-Craft, the
midget submarines of the Second World War, to take part in a ceremony
which will bridge the 60 years between then and now."
The HMS Sceptre will spend five days at Portland. A reception was held
on board the vessel for dignitaries last night. The HMS Sceptre is the
second submarine to dock at the island in seven months following last
October's visit by the Trafalgar-class HMS Tireless. Cruise missiles are
the main armament of each vessel.
The HMS Sceptre is one of only two Swiftsure Class Fleet Submarines (SSNs)
still in service.
Delhi eyeing Navy submarine for museum
A
Very Rude Awakening

The night the Japanese midget subs came to Sydney Harbour
Peter Grose - Paperback
A ground-breaking new look at one of the most extraordinary
stories of Australia at war.
On the night of 31 May 1942, Sydney was doing what it does best:
partying. The theatres, restaurants, dance halls, illegal
gambling dens, clubs and brothels offered plenty of choice to
roistering sailors, soldiers and airmen on leave in Australia's
most glamorous city. The war seemed far away. Newspapers devoted
more pages to horse racing than to Hitler.
That Sunday night the party came to a shattering halt when three
Japanese midget submarines crept into the harbour, past eight
electronic indicator loops, past six patrolling Royal Australian
Navy ships, and past an anti-submarine net stretched across the
inner harbour entrance. Their arrival triggered a night of
mayhem, courage, chaos and high farce which left 27 sailors dead
and a city bewildered. The war, it seemed, was no longer
confined to distant desert and jungle. It was right here at
Australia's front door.
Written at the pace of a thriller and based on new first person
accounts and previously unpublished official documents, A Very
Rude Awakening is a ground-breaking and myth-busting look at one
of the most extraordinary stories ever told of Australia at war.
Available now from the
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So what if the Capital is thousands of miles away from the sea?
If the Delhi Development Authority (DDA) has its way, Delhiites will
soon have an added attraction on their must-see list in the form of a
submarine. The Indian Navy has offered DDA one of the two Russian-made
Foxtrot submarines it plans to decommission soon. The idea is to use the
mammoth seacraft - 92 metres in length - to create a submarine museum
which will be an educational and tourist attraction in the run-up to the
2010 Commonwealth Games.
Having decided in principle to accept the Navy's offer, DDA is now
working on the modalities of who would bear the cost of transporting the
submarine from its present base in Vishakhapatnam. A DDA team recently
visited the southern port town where the country's first submarine
museum was set up by the development authority there. The museum today
is a major tourist attraction and boasts of a decommissioned submarine.
The idea is that instead of letting decommissioned submarines rot as
scrap, it is better to use them for educational purposes.
In the proposed museum, visitors will be introduced to the internal
mechanisms of a submarine and it is likely that officials from the Navy
will themselves be stationed there to impart technical information.
The Indian Navy acquired eight Foxtrot submarines between 1964 and 1974.
Six of them have already been decommissioned. As of now the Navy has two
of these sea crafts - INS Vela and INS Vagli - which are functional. One
of these is likely to be decommissioned soon and would be the one to be
handed over to the DDA for the museum. These submarines cost around Rs
75 crore and require a crew of 75, led by eight Naval officials.
The Indian Navy has 16 submarines as of now. These include 10 kilo class
Russian submarines, four HDW submarines from Germany and two Foxtrot
submarines.
French judges demand information on RN
submarines following the sinking of a trawler
Two French judges have demanded information on the whereabouts of
three Devonport-based submarines following the sinking of a trawler. The
judges are probing the deaths of five Breton fishermen who died when
their trawler sunk under mysterious circumstances off the Cornish coast
on January 15, 2004.
They believe the Bugaled Breizh was "most probably" sunk by a high-speed
submarine which accidentally snagged its trawl gear and dragged it below
the waves.
The Royal Navy - which has been accused of dragging its heels over
providing documents on submarines which were taking part in Nato war
games off The Lizard at the time - has now been called to reveal the
exact positions of the three British submarines at the time of the
tragedy. The Royal Navy strongly denies that any submarine could
have been involved in the sinking and all activities of naval units at
the time have been accounted for. Devonport-based HMS Talent, HMS
Tireless and HMS Triumph were all involved in the training exercise.
The judges in Quimper, Brittany have now ruled out other possible
accidental causes. They are investigating charges "against X" of
manslaughter and failing to assist persons in danger. Royal Navy
officers were summoned to a meeting with the judges at the headquarters
of the European law co-ordination body Eurojust at The Hague in
February, it has emerged.
The Bugaled Breizh, based at Loctudy in Brittany, sank in less than two
minutes. Her skipper barely had time to radio for assistance
before she sank. A second French fishing boat saw a submarine leaving
the scene of the accident.
A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence said: "We have already provided
the information they requested. "We have co-operated with the
authorities. We have given them details of the movements of our
submarines. "There were no Royal navy submarines in the area of
the trawler. The Royal Navy and Ministry of Defence have cooperated
fully with the French investigation from the outset and continue to do
so.
"There is clear evidence, as provided to the French judicial Inquiry,
that no Royal Navy submarine could have become involved in the loss of
Bugaled Breizh, and the whereabouts and activities of all Royal Navy
units at and around the time of the loss have been accounted for."

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RAN ALL SHORE 2/3
RAN ALL SHORE 3/3
AIG 3602
AIG 3600
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UNCLAS
SIC BAA
ORIGNO: 1163/DFMS
016 ALL SHIP 016 ALL SHORE 015 ALL OSEAS
AUSTCOM KUALA LUMPUR, WELLINGTON, HONIARA, SINGAPORE, AUSTCOM SUVA,
AUSTEMB SEOUL (FOR DEFENCE ADVISER),AUSTEMB BERLIN, AUSTEMB BEIJING,
MANILA, PARIS EMB, TOKYO, ROME, BANGKOK, PHNOM PENH (FOR DEFENCE
ATTACHE), AUSTCOM LONDON (FOR HADS), AUSTCOM PORT MORESBY (FOR HADS
PNT), AUSTEMB JAKARTA (FOR NAVAL ATTACHE), AUSTCOM NUKU ALOFA, APIA
AND PORT VILA (FOR RAN ADVISER) AUSTEMB POHNPEI FOR MSA/FMS/RMI
SUBJ: NAVY CAPABILITY ALLOWANCE
1. THE DEFENCE FORCE REMUNERATION
TRIBUNAL (DFRT) HAS APPROVED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A NAVY CAPABILITY
ALLOWANCE (NCA) WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT. THE NCA IS A SHORT TERM TARGETED
INITIATIVE TO MAINTAIN NAVY CAPABILITY AND FACILITATE WORKFORCE RECOVERY
BY RETAINING TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED SAILORS. THE NCA COMPLEMENTS THE
EXISTING RANGE OF RETENTION INITIATIVES CURRENTLY BEING PURSUED BY NAVY
AND THOSE APPLICABLE TO THE ADF THROUGH THE ADF RECRUITING AND RETENTION
STRATEGY.
2. THE NCA PROVIDES FOR THE PAYMENT OF AN ALLOWANCE TO ALL SAILORS
HOLDING THE RANK OF AB-CPO (INCLUSIVE) WHO ARE INDIVIDUALLY READY AND
HAVE COMPLETED THEIR INITIAL MINIMUM PERIOD OF SERVICE. IN RETURN
SAILORS WILL COMPLETE A RETURN OF SERVICE OBLIGATION OF 18 MONTHS. THE
QUANTA OF THE NCA IS $24,000 FOR GENERAL SERVICE SAILORS AND $60,000 FOR
QUALIFIED SUBMARINERS TO BE PAID IN THREE LUMP SUM INSTALMENTS.
3. SAILORS WILL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE NCA IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING
RANGE OF FINANCIAL RETENTION SCHEMES. THOSE CURRENTLY UNDERTAKING A
PERIOD OF FURTHER SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH ANOTHER RETENTION SCHEME,
INCLUDING THE MSBS RETENTION BENEFIT, WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR THE
NCA. HOWEVER, THE NCA ROSO WILL BE ADDED TO THE EXISTING UNDERTAKING
EXTENDING THE TOTAL OBLIGATION.
4. THE NCA SPECIFICALLY TARGETS SAILORS IN THE RANKS OF AB-CPO. WHILE I
RECOGNISE THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT WARRANT OFFICERS AND OFFICERS PLAY IN
CONTRIBUTING TO NAVY CAPABILITY, IT IS NEVERTHELESS CLEAR THAT AT
PRESENT NAVY'S BIGGEST PERSONNEL CHALLENGE LIES IN STABILISING AND THEN
GROWING THE SAILOR WORKFORCE IN THE RANKS OF AB-CPO. THE FUNDAMENTAL
GOAL OF THE NCA IS TO ACHIEVE THIS OUTCOME.
5. LONGER TERM REMUNERATION OUTCOMES FOR THE SAILOR WORKFORCE ARE BEING
PURSUED THROUGH FURTHER REFORM OF THE GRADED OTHER RANKS PAY STRUCTURE (GORPS).
IT IS EXPECTED THAT THE DFRT WILL CONSIDER THE GORPS CASE TOWARD THE END
OF 2008.
6. APPROVAL OF THE NCA IS AN EXCELLENT OUTCOME FOR NAVY AND PROVIDES A
SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR TRAINED AND EXPERIENCED SAILORS TO
REMAIN IN THE NAVY. IT IS A CRITICAL SHORT TERM INITIATIVE AMONG A
RANGE OF ONGOING REFORMS DESIGNED TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED DELIVERY OF
NAVY CAPABILITY.
7. FURTHER ADVICE ON THE DETAIL OF THE NCA SCHEME WILL BE PROVIDED BY
DGNPT.
Carol,
Kim, Stuart and Families would like to thank all those who attended
Bob's Service on Wednesday and those who have sent their condolences. We
were overwhelmed at the number of people. We would also like to thank
all those who have contributed to "The Walk" with their kind donations.
It was Bob's wish that the walk go ahead so I will be "full steam ahead"
to fulfill his wishes.
The families would also like to thank SAA
Queensland and the National Executive (as Bob said "you can't do that
outside the Rules", ever conscious of Constitutions) for making it
possible for him to receive his SAA Life Membership. It was a very
moving event for all concerned.
Once again, we can't thank you all enough.
Carol Wilson
And that's your lot for this
week, come on Boof, lets have a nana nap...........
Sunday, 13th
APRIL 2008
It has not been a good week for me, family health issues
and other matters tended to get me down a bit. Then yesterday I
got crook and I am still feeling tender. Must be my cooking.
At least it has given me a chance to catch up on my reading, finished A
Very Rude Awakening, a good story of Australia at war.
It is good to see that we are getting new Members, let's
hope that they will get an opportunity to meet old friends on ANZAC Day
or at their next Branch Meeting. Of course, that means that you
may have to attend.
The Queensland Branch meeting in Brisbane today, but not
being 100% I was not looking forward to a 7 hour return drive so had to
apologise for not attending. A pity as I have been looking forward to
it.
Not long to go now and SUBCON will be the main topic of
conversation. I am looking forward to catching up with old mates,
I really enjoy the Friday night Meet and Greet. Not one for balls
though and will give it a miss.
We have a new young minister in Bauple and he has
befriended me, another newcomer to the town. The other day he was asked
by a funeral director to hold a grave-side service for an old man, who
had no family or friends. The funeral was to be held at the new cemetery
and this man would be the first to be buried there, another good reason
for me to go, pick a plot off the plan, get the best views while they
are available. Not being familiar with the area, we soon became lost. We
finally arrived an hour late and saw the backhoe and the open grave, but
the hearse was nowhere in sight. The digging crew was eating lunch. The
minister apologised to the workers for his tardiness, and stepped to the
side of the open grave. There I saw that they had already started to
fill in the grave. The minister assured the workers that hewould not
hold them up for long and that this was the proper thing to do.
The workers and I gathered around the grave and stood silently, as the
minister began to pour out his heart and soul. He preached about
"looking forward to a brighter tomorrow" and "the glory that is to
come," the workers began to say "Amen," "Praise the Lord," and "Glory!"
The fervor of these men truly inspired me. The minister preached all the
way from Genesis to Revelations and finally closed the lengthy service
with a prayer, thanked the men, and walked to our car. As we were
pulling out I heard one of the workers say to another, "I ain't NEVER
seen nothin' like that before, and I've been puttin' in septic tanks for
thirty years!"
There are still quite a few Members that have not paid their subscriptions for 2008/09
which became due and payable as of 1 April 2008. If you opted to
receive In Depth online you would NOT have received notification in your
copy of In Depth and your name will be on the list at the bottom of this
entry. If you have NOT
opted to receive In Depth online you would have receive notification in
your copy of In Depth and your name will not be on the list.
Remember, it is only $10 (or $40 for 5 years) so how about helping the
Treasurer and pay ASAP. If you see a name on the list and you are
in touch with that person, please remind him, he may not have read the
Log lately.
We still have a heap of Beer Mats available. A
good way of saving money is to order with a friend or two, saves postage
and earns a big discount. The money raised goes to Tug's Walk for
Kids with cancer.
Around the Traps
President's update
On Monday evening last, I had the opportunity to see the
latest update on AE2. The venue was the National Maritime Museum, the
objective, to highlight the current situation on AE2 as well as to an
opportunity to preview the soon to be aired documentary.
This documentary goes to air at 20:30 on the 24th April on the ABC and,
without giving too much away is a combination of current situation on
AE2 and a history lesson on AE2 and her crew from the morning of the
25th April 1915 until she was damaged from gunfire and ultimately
scuttled, several days later. It is a story of courage and determination
and though led by an Irishmen and crewed partly by RN and RAN
Submariners, she was still and Australian submarine
I commend all, to watch the screening of this program and if you can’t
source a copy of the DVD from the ABC Shop. For those of us with
children and grandchildren I would encourage you to relate the story of
the AE2 and the significant impact one 800 odd ton submarine, crewed by
some 31 men had on Gallipoli and the total disaster that Gallipoli could
have been without their intervention. It is a truly inspiring story.
On a more solemn note, I travelled to “sunny” Brisbane for the funeral
of Robert “Tug’ Wilson. Whilst funerals are always a solemn affair, the
eulogies presented at “Tugs” send off left nary a dry eye. Tug will be
sorely missed by his family, friends and the wider submarine community.
The Military Superannuation Review
The Report of the Review into Military Superannuation
Arrangements was publicly released by the Hon Warren Snowdon MP,
Minister for Defence Science and Personnel, on 24 December 2007. The
Minister stated that “Although the review team consulted widely before
submitting its report, the Rudd Government will provide further
opportunity for public comment about the review’s findings and
recommendations.”
Interested parties were provided with three months to comment on the
report and its recommendations between 24 December 2007 and 31 March
2008. Parties were asked to first consider the original Terms of
Reference for the Review and the Review Team’s Guiding Principles. The
public consultation period for submissions on The Report closed on 31
March 2008. The Government is now considering its position on the Review
recommendations.
The period for public comment closed on 31 March 2008 and a joint
submission prepared by the Returned and Services League of Australia
(RSL) and the Defence Force Welfare Association (DFWA) in conjunction
with other Ex-Service Organisations (ESOs) can be
viewed at the Submarines Associations website -
covering letter
and
Report.
HMAS
Rankin awarded the Gloucester Cup
HMAS Rankin has been awarded the coveted Gloucester Cup. Commander
Australian Fleet, Rear Admiral Nigel Coates, AM RAN, joined the
Governor- General to present the Commanding Officer of Rankin, Commander
Phillip Stanford, RAN, with the award in recognition of excellence in
teamwork, loyalty and dedication.
To mark the occasion, Ceremonial Divisions were held at HMAS Stirling
with the Royal Australian Air Force paying tribute to Rankin’s
achievement with a PC9 formation fly past as the Submarine Squadron
gathered on the parade ground in their ceremonial whites.
Commanding Officer of Rankin, Commander Phillip Stanford said, “This is
a proud day for me but especially for my crew; this award recognises
everything that we hold dear and strive for in the submarine squadron
and the Navy.” “I would especially like to thank my crew and their
families. The dedication and sacrifice of those associated with HMAS
Rankin is something of which we can all be very proud.”
The Gloucester Cup was instituted in 1947 by the then Governor-General,
the Duke of Gloucester and acknowledges excellence against a range of
performance criteria including: operational efficiency; seamanship;
supply and administration; officer and sailor training; maintenance and
resourcefulness. The broad scope of criteria demands consistency from
every department, with each individual playing a critical role in
achieving the Gloucester Cup. Every RAN ship undergoes thorough
evaluation and assessment in the selection process for this
distinguished award.
The
Cup has been won by many notable ships over the years, including
Quadrant, Vampire, Sydney and Hobart. And in recent times, winners have
included Arunta, ANZAC, Success and Adelaide, Kanimbla and last year
HMAS Sheean. Today, HMAS Rankin joins those prestigious names for
a second time, as a result of outstanding performance during the past
year.
This news release upset a few, seeing it as a snub not recognising
Oberon submarines that were also awarded the Cup. Let's not get too precious, I don't think it was a
deliberate slur on the Oberons, many a fine surface ship also failed to get a
mention in the 'sampling' of winners. Some comments received were:
"Thanks for that, however one
vessel has been missed out, HMAS Onslow (photo) was awarded the Cup in the mid
seventies or there abouts. I remember it well as we proceeded into
Newcastle, we had to butcher a piece of timber in the forends and fit a
hook onto it, only enough timber for one star so as we came alongside
with the star on the fin, as we were turned by the tug to come alongside
at the appropriate time, Captain ASL Smith (RN) unhooked the star and
hung it on the other side, from memory, I think Max Hardy was on the
helm"
'It was a shame they never mentioned the Oberon
Submarines that have won the Gloucester Cup. I was on a notable ship
HMAS Orion when she won it? Fancy mentioning all the skimmers?"
"HMAS Orion won the Gloucester Cup in
1985......so SM's have a very good 'hit' rate over the years..........as
you would expect."
"The Gloucester cup
was won by HMAS Onslow in 1977 and we got to wear a yellow star on the
fin. I believe Titch Parsons on Ovens cut out an effigy of a cow jumping
over the moon painted it yellow and hung it on the fin of Ovens, a great
sense of humour.
I have tried to track down a full list of winners but have had no
success.
Mailbag
LEUT David Perry, ILS Manager for the Patrol Boats in Darwin, asked
"Having moved to the sunnier climate up here in
Darwin in January I cannot help but notice the number of Submariners
that are up here (and that is only those in uniform or working for
Defence Contractors). Could I ask you to include an advert in next
weekends LOG update asking all submariners in the Darwin area to contact
me (on this email
address) so that I can see if we can arrange a reunion after the
march this year. I know that it is short notice with ANZAC Day only two
weeks away but we have to start somewhere, and I have identified a quite
little Sailing Club five minutes from central Darwin where we will not
have any problems downing a cool ale or three. You never know this could
be the beginnings of a Submariners Association in the NT (the last place
for us to conquer)!!" I have passed this information on to
those on my mailing list, if anyone else is out there, contact Dave.
One that did get the message was Dave Nimmo who replied "Thanks
for the contact with Dave Perry.....he seems keen so we will see where
we can take the SAA in the NT.....the last time we tried to form up
there was 6 of us.....2 lived in Alice, 3 in the Top End and 1 that left
for Queensland. Do you have contact for Tony Smith (AKA Fruitbat the ex
Sparker) he was up here a few years ago but he has gone astray."
Mike Shepherd sent this email which, once again proves
the value of the website in communicating important news to our Members.
He commented "Have just spent the past 24 hours
listening to the final debrief from my wife, following my
hospitalisation. I asked her where she found a list of mates to start
with and she said there was just one man's name that I have repeated in
the past, our web manager's. She thought, and how right she was, that
the Log would get the information flowing. Norm, I must admit I had a
tear in my eye last night thinking how my poor darling wife must have
felt particularly being alone here miles from her original homeland
Singapore and me in an 8 day induced coma in Perth. Many thanks for your
recent assistance. Even what may seem like little things mean an awful
lot. Please tell the world, thanks."
Chris
‘Joel’ Garner, (photo) wrote "Hope you are
enjoying life in ‘God’s Country’ and you are trying to behave yourself.
I, like a hell of a lot of people enjoy the website immensely. I am
still in green with STU-SM (Sea Training Unit – Submarines), which is
our new acronym, although SSTG is hard to remove from the collective
memory. Out on HMAS Rankin (Gloucester Cup winners twice in a
commission) recently and the CTIFF (CPO Christopher ‘Jugs’ Rowley)
honouring ‘O’ boats, piped ‘Blowing Snort Exhaust’ as he started the
last snort before berthing in Adelaide for FCD (fancy name for refit). I
commented to a couple of people that the CTIFF’s pipe was pretty funny,
felt very $&%^ing old when I got a lot of blank looks and queries about
his pipe. The CO (CMDR Phil Stanford) thought it was pretty funny, so a
least someone onboard got the joke." Just proves that Joel
is on the verge of becoming a dinosaur, time to move him to the
submarine school with the rest of them.
Peter and Jan Watt have sent episode two of their travel
diary. "Thought I would send another update
for the log before we move on to our next exchange house in Banstead,
Surrey. We've have had a real mix of weather over the past couple
of weeks - sunny one day, snowing the next. In fact, last Sunday we
experienced heavy snowfalls from early morning through to around mid day
- then sunshine for the rest of the day! The snow stayed on the ground
for over a day, so you can imagine the sun didn't have much warmth to it
- and we must admit, it made for some lovely photos. Very picture
post-card indeed.
We've spent a day up in Windsor, looking over the castle, which was most
impressive. We went there early, to avoid the later crowds, and spent
hours watching the changing of the guard, going through the State
Apartments, looking at Queen Mary's dolls house (unbelievable!) and the
castle's St George's Chapel which was being prepared for Sir Edmund
Hillary's memorial service a couple of days later. All very grand of
course - and we hadn't realised just how big the whole complex is.
Afterwards we strolled around Windsor for a while, then headed home -
stopping at a great little pub "The Greyhound" at Tidmarsh for a late
lunch - bangers and mash, steak and kidney pudding and home cured ham
with eggs and chips - all washed down with local ales. Eating out is
pretty expensive here - but we found this place to be a real find and
value for money.
Last week we went up to London to spend a couple of days with friends. I
was lucky enough to to be invited out for a round of golf. We were
supposed to leave home about 06.30 hrs for the hour's drive to the
course, but the people we were staying with mistakenly woke me at 05.30.
Needless to say we were bright and early, even after stopping off and
having breakfast at an all night diner. I didn't mind in the least
because it was a beautiful morning even if it was only 3 degrees and I
had a good round. While I was playing golf the wife of the couple we
were staying with took Jan to Spitalfields Markets and Borough Markets
(one of her favourites) to see what they could find.
Our trip back to Goring from London could have been a bit of a disaster.
We got to Waterloo just as an announcement was made that the train on
Platform 16 was departing for Reading (our train), so we hurried in that
direction, and boarded. Jan was about to ask me whether we were on the
right train, as she was sure she had seen 15 - not 16, when we noticed
the husband of the couple we stayed with running along the platform,
just as the whistles were blowing and the doors were beginning to close.
He shouted 'You're on the wrong train' - and we bolted for the door and
jumped back onto the platform in the nick of time. Who knows where we
would have ended up - though it might have been a bit of fun!
Yesterday Jan and I took a half hour drive though the most beautiful
countryside to nearby Henly on Thames. The Oxford/Cambridge boat race
was on a week ago, but we decided not to go there at that time.
(Avoiding crowds is a big part of our holiday plans). It's such a pretty
place - larger than I'd imagined - and we just wandered around, called
into The Angel on the Bridge pub for a bowl of pea and ham soup to warm
us up, before heading home.
So that brings us up to date. Next Sunday we move to Banstead, which is
closer to London, so we'll be heading in that direction on a pretty
regular basis. We're there until mid May, when we move up to Scotland.
Lots of adventures still to come!"
Geoff Rossiter read the original item from Jan & Peter
Watt about their house swap with someone in UK. He writes
"My wife Jane and I are hoping to do the same sort
of thing next year (2009). We would love to get in contact with Jan &
Peter to talk to them regarding how they went about it and was hoping
you might have their Email address." Message was passed as
requested, now I wonder if anyone is interested in swapping my half
renovated, no concrete villa in sunny Bauple. Wildlife extra!
UK reader Ken Thomson was browsing through the Log and
saw the photo which some were thinking was NOT Olympus. He writes
"It most definitely is. The guy with the beard is
George Joblin the guy in the very front is the Killick Chef but I can't
remember his name. I was on Olympus at the time but my memory for names
is pretty poor. Andy Sugden who runs the site Diesel weasel knows all
the names."
Graeme Caesar thought that this receipt interesting, he
has already booked his next holiday at the Royal Mail.
John 'Dutch' Holland wrote
"Attended the launch of the Collins Class Submarine Story Book yesterday
in Sydney. It was a great occasion with many 'old' submariner faces from
both the 'Oberon' days and the 'Collins' build days. Kim Beazley
launched the book and paid tribute to all that were involved from the
PDS phase up to the first launch and beyond. Many faces, from
Peter Briggs to Peter Smith, which covers the spectrum of submariners
you would think, not to mention the many civilians involved from day
one, from ASC and Rockwell & CSC etc. There was even a BZ from the MC to
the SAA. HMAS Rankin's Gloucester Cup win only supports the feelings we
all had at the Launch and believe me, it was a good feeling knowing we
succeeded and the 'Dud Boats' are 'actually 'Snap Boats'!"
I joined the Collins Project in 1987 at the Brookvale buildings, and
left in 2007. I think that all of us that were involved in the
early days were confident of the success of the project, there was a lot
of talent from all over. Yes, there were some ups and some downs, but I
enjoyed the challenges that arose from time to time.
Eternal Patrol M.
Carter (LRO.(T)), a member of the British Submariners Association
(Australia Branch) has “Crossed the Bar on his Last Patrol” at the age
of 73. He served in: HM submarines Upstart, Untiring, Sturdy, Sanguine,
Aurochs, Telemachus & Andrew.
Roberto Lunardo, our SAA member in Noumea, sent these
clippings taken onboard HMAS Oxley in 1980. I sent CO peter Briggs
the clippings and he responded "I remember the
undoubtedly pretty French lady reporter at the other end of the camera –
certainly a beguiling smile!". Roberto also sent a mystery
photo taken circa WW1, anyone out there recognise it?
I have fond memories of Noumea, my first port of call
overseas on HMAS Gascoyne as an ORDME. I fell in love with a
pretty lass who took advantage of my innocence behind the bakery.
Almost ruined a set of Blues, the flour on the sacks that we fell in
love on impregnated it and they ended up looking like a set of 6's.
My visit was ruined when next morning she turned up at the ship with her
children and grandchildren to see me. The Bosun was OOD and had warned
me off her the previous night and he made me take them on a tour of the
ship and told me to introduce her as my girlfriend to all that I met.
Noumea was a great run in the mid sixties.... The photos are
thumbnails, select to enlarge.
Two Irishmen walk into a pet shop in Dingle. They head
to the bird section and Gerry says to Paddy, 'Dat's dem.' The owner
comes over and asks if he can help them.Yeah, we'll take four of dem
dere little budgies in dat cage up dere,' says Gerry. The owner
puts the budgies in a cardboard box. Paddy and Gerry pay for the birds,
leave the shop and get into Gerry's truck to drive to the top of the
Connor Pass.
At the ConnorPass, Gerry looks down at the 1000 foot
drop and says, 'Dis looks like a grand place.' He takes two birds out of
the box, puts one on each shoulder and jumps off the cliff. Paddy
watches as the budgies fly off and Gerry falls all the way to the
bottom, killing himself stone dead. Looking down at the remains of his
best pal, Paddy shakes his head and says, 'Fook dat. Dis budgie jumping
is too fook'n dangerous for me!'
Moment's later, Seamus arrives up at Connor Pass.� He's
been to The pet shop too and walks up to the edge of the cliff carrying
another cardboard box in one hand and a shotgun in the other. 'Hi,
Paddy. Watch dis,' Seamus says. He takes a parrot from the box and lets
him fly free. He then throws himself over the edge of the cliff with the
gun. Paddy watches as half way down, Seamus takes the gun and shoots the
parrot. Seamus continues to plummet down and down until he hits the
bottom and Paddy shakes his head and says, 'And I'm never trying dat
parrotshooting either!'
Paddy is just getting over the shock of losing two
friends when Sean appears. He's also been to the pet shop and is
carrying a cardboard box out of which he pulls a chicken. Sean then
takes the chicken by its legs and hurls himself off the cliff and
disappears down and down until he hits the bottom. Once more Paddy
shakes his head. 'Fook dat, lads. First dere was Gerry with his budgie
jumping, den Seamus parrotshooting...and now Sean and his fook'n
hen-gliding!
Can you help?
Can you help,
if so let me know? One of our H&W officers is doing
a DVA/MCRS claim for a Member who served on HMAS Otway
1974-6. During the above period there were 2 primary
incidents that we need dates/confirmation of, both
probably in the EAXA;
-
Propulsion failure while deep; this possibly started
as an 'evolution', but ended up with the boat going down backwards,
at an 'interesting' angle; Steve recalls that everybody not on watch
was sent to the FE'S & hanging off a rear door next to him was
ABUWSM Jumbo Pearce.
-
While diving lookout (possibly diving on the Klaxion),
came below to the CR, to report on OOW entering the tower;
unfortunately OOW never appeared & Members had to bolt up the tower
to find him, while CR aborted the dive!! OOW was trying to 'garrot'
himself on his binocular strap!!
Mike
Bennett, Victorian Branch President (an old Pom) keeps me abreast of
happenings in the Old Dart and sent me this nostalgic photo, taken at a
time when the RN had enough boats to have at least one at sea at all
times, when the Tot was like gold and he could drink three scrumpies
without falling off his perch. Those were the days Mike!
Sandy
Freeleagus needs help. He asks "I'm trying to sell
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