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Welcome Aboard

The following new members have signed on with the SAA in May;

WOMTSM Mark Dixon OAM. 
LCDR Chris Gunn RAN (Rtd).
Ex LSTDSM Brian Smith.
Ex WOCOXNSM Gordon Benavente.
LCDR Tom Harrison RAN (Rtd).
CPO/E7 Craig Werley (USN)
LCDR Guy Burton RAN.

The following new members have signed on with the SAA in June;

Kevin 'Jack' Warner, ex POETPSM.  Partner Pat, Rockingham WA 6168. 
Served on HMAS Otway, HMAS Ovens and HMAS Oxley.

John 'Oby' O'Beirne, ex POCKSM.  Kallangur Qld 4503.
Served on HMS Alaric, HMAS Onslow and HMAS Ovens.

LCDR Stuart Lumsden RAN (Rtd). Partner Michelle, Eleebana NSW 2282
HMAS Otway, HMAS Oxley, HMAS Ovens, HMAS Otama and HMAS Onslow.

Wayne 'Bill' Whelan ex WOETSSM. Partner Barbara, Ebenezer NSW 2756
HMS Oracle, HMAS Otway, HMAS Oxley, HMAS Ovens and HMAS Onslow.

Ian Haw, ex POUCSM.  Partner Telere, Cleveland Qld 4163
HMAS Otway, HMAS Oxley, HMAS Orion and HMAS Onslow.

David Beauchamp, ex LSETCSM.  Riverview NSW 2066
HMAS Otway, HMAS Ovens and HMAS Onslow.

Phillip 'Max' Walker, ex LSROSM.  Partner Karen, Warner Qld 4500.
HMAS Otway, HMAS Oxley, HMAS Ovens, HMAS Orion and HMAS Onslow.

BEING A 'FRIEND' IS NICE, BUT BEING A MEMBER COUNTS - SIGN ON NOW!!!!  DEEP DOWN YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE. 

Join the SAA. Remember, the more Members the more the policy makers in Canberra listen, there is strength in numbers. Details on SAA Membership are provided on the Application Form

Birthdays
The following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a Birthday. 

Gemini
May 20th - June 20th
You are a quick and intelligent thinker and people like you because you are bi-sexual. you are inclined to expect too much for too little, a cheap bastard!  You are not a very nice person and deliberately run into children with your trolley while shopping.

Cancer
June 21st - July 21st
You see yourself as a caring and sharing person that is sympathetic and understanding and likes to get involved with other peoples problems.  In fact, most people just see you as nosey!  You always keep putting things off, this is the reason that you will always be on welfare and not worth a turd.  Prisons are full of you lot!


Why isn't my Birthday here? I hear this often, the answer is simple, I either don't like you or I rely on Plaxo to help me manage the almost 1300 people in Up Periscope's mailing list and you are not using it.  So if you want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next time I send an update request.

June Birthdays
1st: David Sandquest, Jon Jankowski, Pat Cullum & Robert Dobson
2nd: David Byrne & Don Wooding
3rd: Paul Ballantyne & Don Parsons
4th: Barry McKeown
6th: Jo Mackintosh
7th: Ian Bray
8th: Craig Tanner
9th: Bob Lee
10th: Keith Miller, Robin Ford, Kevin Piechowski, Ray McMinn & Allan McCarthy
11th Don Fleet & Bruce Morley
12th: Allan Carter
13th: Chris Cromwell & Peter Wallen
14th: Frank Powell & Andrew Galley
17th: Dennis Wigg, Ralph Birch, Peter Williams, Jerry Gwynne, Ken May & John Kidd
18th: Max Hardy
20th: Paul McGroder & Adam McCarthy
21st: Tony Vine, Roger Downs, Kerry Jorgensen, Ken Robinson, Barry Atkinson & Allan Sadlere
22nd: George McKenzie
23rd: Arthur McKean, Robert O'Brien, Chris Bayly, Geoff Cherry, Kim Ive, Tom Jarrett & Mick Ploenges
24th: Marcos Alfonso
25th: Gary Finney, Sean Goff & Daniel O'Brien
26th: Ian Harvey
27th: Andrew Holman
28th: Roger Hardwicke & Ray Copeland
29th: Brett Ollington & Greg Skinner
30th: Donald Brown, Alan Gurman & Lee Bond

Birthday Calculator.   After you've finished reading the info, click again, and see what the moon looked like the night you were born.

Sick Bay
There are many of our mates that have been, or are, suffering from a range of medical problems and I know that the thoughts of the submarine community go out to them and their families during these trying times.

Bob Hibberd has moved to the UK, suffering with a brain tumor.
Jim Redwood has been very ill from the effects of a subdural hematoma and has been moved to the RSL Nursing Home in Yass (a long way from his home in Cootamundra).
Terry Lewis is in permanent care for dementia in Busselton.
Bob Bobilak has been diagnosed with Asbestosis. For any of his mates that are passing through or would like to send a card here is the address: Urana Hotel, Main Street Urana NSW 2645.
Graeme Porzucek has Asbestosis.
Malcolm 'Jock' Campbell with Dementia and Alzheimer's - Jock is in a UK nursing home.
Claude (Rob) Roberts has been diagnosed with prostrate and bone cancer and is now resting quite comfortably in his room at the Blue Haven Lodge, his room number is 31, and phone is 0747766135.I am sure that he would like a buzz from all that know him.
Mike ‘Jelly’ Barnes has prostate cancer and went under the knife early April. Contact Jelly on 0418 666 330.
Eric Armstrong has cancer and DVT and has had his big toe on the right foot amputated.
Merv Kidd has been diagnosed with Asbestosis. His number is: 02 4358 8646.
Ray Sylvester has Emphysema and recently caught a lung infection. Ray can be contacted on (02) 4342 7097.

Peter Smith reports "What a week, I ended up in RPA on Friday, 12 June having had my second heart attack. I am OK, just have to look after myself a little better and take more drugs."  Peter now has a stent in his heart to go along with the triple bypass grafts for five blockages

Max Bryant reports that Biff Mills had a bit of a turn during the week. He was driving his car down the street when he developed a head pain. In the middle of a roundabout he suddenly got disorientated and did not know where he was. Luckily Helen was with him and directed him home. Max added "I took him to the Doctors, later for scans then to the Frankston Hospital where it was discovered that Biff had suffered a mild stroke. At the time of writing he is still in the Frankston Hospital undergoing further tests. Will keep you informed."

Dave (Goldie) Horne has returned home after 12 days in Brisbane's Greenslopes Private Hospital. He returns to Brisbane 3rd July as an outpatient to see a Neurosurgeon. Dave would like to thank those who contacted him while he was down there.

Eternal Patrol - Lieutenant-Commander Max Shean DSO* RANVR (Rtd)
Lieutenant-Commander Max Shean RAN (Rtd) DSO and Bar, who died on June 15th aged 90, was the Patron of the WA Branch of the Association.  A full Naval funeral was help in Perth.

An obituary appears in the June 21st Log.

Eternal Patrol - WOMTSM Shaun Haggerty
Queensland Branch member Shaun Haggerty passed away peacefully in a Gold Coast Hospital at approximately 2100 last night (20th) from a liver complaint. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his wife Gaye.  Shaun was 53. The submarine community was well represented at the funeral, with old mates from NSW, SA and the ACT joining local members.

Vale - Lilly Lewis
It is with regret that I have to pass on the sad news of the passing away of Mrs Lilly Lewis wife and loving mother to our Shipmate Jerry Lewis and daughter Emma. Lilly lost the long fought out battle against cancer in May. Lilly will be sadly missed by all that knew her and loved her.


Annual subscriptions
Annual subscriptions are overdue if your name appears in this list.  Payment should be forwarded to:

John Rana
National Treasurer, SAA
5 Mirror Cove
Waikiki WA 6169

Details for Payment by EFT:
Bank:      Aust Defence Credit Union
Name:     Submarines Assoc Australia
Account:   705414    BSB:     802 397

The May issue of In Depth is online - http://submarinesaustralia.com/in_depth.html 

Surname Surname Surname Surname
ATKINSON  BR GIBBENS PJF McGINN GJ ROACH TA
BARTLETT-BRAGG A GIBBS AF McGUIGAN RD RODGERS DW
BIRCH R GILBERTSON DJ McMINN JR SINCLAIR ID
BOYLES W HILLMAN M MEAKINS L SMITH AJ
BRAUND J HODGEN JR MERRIGAN LA SOLOMON P
BROOKES EJ HODGES J METCALF JP STANDING M
CARLYON NJ HOLLAND PB MILLS KA  
CHARLES RA HOLMES JS MORTON KC STRAWHAN MDA
CHURCHILL HE HUNTER J MURRELL RD SWANSON MA
CROMWELL CJ HURFORD PD NICHOLS DC TAUBMAN JMH
CROSS DA JAMES AD OLIVER MA TAYLER CE
DALEY FJ JENKINS KT O'NEILL JG THOMPSON K
DATE MR JENSEN PG ORKNEY RE THURSTON RC
DE ROOY AJ JOHNSTONE AM OSBORNE AC TUNBRIDGE JR
DIKKENBERG GJ KEARVELL DJ PARDOE MS VIDULICH WA
DRAPER G KEEGAN C PARSONS DR WALLEN PD
DUNNE MT KEESING GA PATRICK RL WAPLES JJ
EILOLA PG KEETON M PENNICUIK G WATSON DP
EVATT PG LENEHAN C PERRY D WELLER-LEWIS PA
EXCELL DL LEWIS CT PETERS KR WILKINSON NA
FARRAWELL AW LUND T PRIEM P WILLIAMS RJ
FEARNSIDE EA MARRIOTTO G PROTHEROE GP WOOD PJ
FORMBY PJ MAYNARD RW RAABE KJ YATES JH

Sunday, 28tht June 2009

This has been long week, nothing at all seemed to go right.  It got off to a bad start when I missed a specialist appointment that I have waited weeks for, put it in my diary for next month, which is when it now is.  Then the computer played up again and I managed to lose a fair bit of work - yes I do save as I go but this does not work with all applications.  And I had two funerals to attend, far too many, it demonstrates how mortal we are!!

I drove down to the Gold Coast to attend Shaun Haggerty's funeral and on the way home I wore a stone from road works, another replacement windscreen needed, and as I drove into my drive way a large tree decided to fall, I managed to avoid it hitting the car.

It was good to see some old faces at the funeral, some travelled from afar; Mick Carew from Canberra, Knocker White from Sydney,  Ian Prodger from South Australia and a strong local contingent demonstrated how Shaun was loved and respected in the submarine community.

I went shopping on Saturday, drove to Hervey Bay to get a new television for my room.  Confusing..... HDMI, CDMA, UHF, VHF, DVTV, DIGITAL READY????  The sales staff must have thought they had a real hick on their hands as it all went over my head.  All I wanted was a television to keep me company during the night!!!  Finally made a purchase and took the thing home and tried to set it up.  How simple can it be I thought?   Unpacked it, got out the instructions and carried out pre-commissioning trials.  Damn, the bloody thing searched for channels to no avail. Having bystanders ask you silly questions like "have you plugged it into the aerial" did not help either. I tried several times and was just about to put my foot through the screen when I noticed that, although I had plugged the aerial lead into the television, I had not plugged it into the wall! Fortunately the by-standers had left by this time.

I also purchased another multifunction remote control for my main television, (I have purchased many of these over the years, they never do ALL of the equipment) the sales person assured me would work, after all it was $99 and you don't get crap for that kind of money (do you?). It worked on four of the 5 pieces of technology hanging off the television but not the set top box.  After many trials i decided to look at the manual for the television and discovered that my set up of cables did not conform to the manual so I started unplugging everything and made it match the manual.  Bottom line, I no longer have satellite or digital set top box functioning.  My neighbour's son said he would come over on Monday to sort it out, but I declined his kind offer, I know I can sort it out...........

And today:  I lost about 4 hours work on this week's Log!!!!

I have been chasing quotes all week for making 150 copies of In Depth, the prices being quoted are ridiculous.  I think I may buy a KwikCopy franchise.  Seriously guys, if anyone out there knows anyone that is willing to sponsor all or part of In Depth, please let me know, we need about $5,000 a year.  The estimated cost to send In Depth to members that do not have computer access is more than the annual subscription of $10.

Next week had better be better!!!

SAA NEWS  

MINUTES OF AGM

Members are advised that the Minutes of Annual General Meeting of the Submarine Association Australia held in Fremantle on Sunday 7th June 2008 will be online later this week once approved by the Committee.

The following is a summary of the AGM but are no the final Minutes.

Office Bearers
The following were proposed and elected
President: David Sandquest
Vice President: Max Hardy
Secretary: Norman Williams
Treasurer: John Rana
Welfare Coordinator: Max Hardy

Business Arising from the Previous Minutes
Incorporation: The Meeting was advised that the motion passed at the 2008 AGM to incorporate the Association was based on flawed information and that incorporation was state based. No further action would be taken at this time, other options were under consideration and would be addressed by the National Committee.

Affiliation with the NAA: The Meeting was informed that this was now in place, the Associations application was approved by the NAA National Council in April. No further action required.

Introduction of a Member’s Card: The Meeting was informed that this was now in place. The cards are available , on request, from the Secretary. Starting from next year cards will be issued to Members when subscriptions are paid. No further action required.

Summary of SAA National Committee Meeting
Postal and On-line Voting: It was agreed that the model for online voting developed by the Web Manager and used as a trial by the Queensland Branch last year would be used after further development. A Constitution By-Law shall be introduced by the end of September 2009 to accept ‘on line’ and postal voting as a legitimate means of voting on governance issues, within the Association.

SUBCON Website:. It was suggested that a standard template be developed on the Associations web site for future SUBCONS.
The introduction of password protection to some sections of the website will be introduced during the integration of the two websites which will be completed later this year. It was identified that there would be a cost to implement this as it has not been budgeted for in the request for 2010 sponsorship.

Barry McKeown Tabled a paper “Private Members Business, ADF personnel and ‘Undeclared Operations’” which seeks recognition of the upgrade to the ASM for Special Operations. Proposed that a letter be sent by the President thanking the NAA for their efforts and this will be done.

BEST Funding: The matter of Branches taking advantage of funding available to Ex Service Organisations (ESOs) was discussed. This funding (available to Incorporated ESOs) is available for a range of purposes from assisting with expenses for functions, the cost of banners, memorials and office equipment and support, to name a few. As the Association (National) is not incorporated it cannot apply for funds but the Secretary will be raising the possibility of Branches applying for the grants to purchase office equipment and administrative costs.

HMAS Platypus: A sum of $78m was allocated in the Budget for the restoration of the Platypus site. Geoff Anderson to coordinate and oversee the establishment of the SAA’s Committee and it’s operating brief and discuss involvement with Chris Skinner.

AE1 Project Involvement : Discussions on the Association’s future involvement demonstrated that there was a desire for tangible support to be given to future phases of the search for AE1. The meeting agreed unanimously that “The Association will actively support the relevant authorities in their quest to find the final resting place of AE1.”

In Depth: In principal agreement was given to the Secretary mailing out In Depth to those Members that do not have access to a computer. Currently 200 Members do not have an email address on the Associations database. It is thought that this number would reduce once those Members are contacted. Cost is still a major issue and sponsorship is being sought, an estimate of costs for 6 issues to be posted out is between $3,500 and $5000 a year.

Motion to Change the Management Structure of the SAA : Norm Williams spoke to his Proposal and expressed some concern over the readiness of some Branches to adopt such change at this time and agreed that many of his perceived failings of the current management of the Association could be addressed by;

a. Correcting the current Constitution to address errors and omissions
b. Identify and write By-Laws to address the perceived shortfalls in the Constitution.
c. Develop arguments on the options available for the national management structure of the Association. These options include becoming a legal entity in its own right or with the current structure unchanged but with all Branches becoming incorporated in their state.

It was proposed that the wording of the Motion would change to “Investigate a possible change to the structure of the Submarines Association Australia to an established schedule.”

Other Business:
Kindred Associations : Our relationship with the RSL. The Meeting was advised that we are on the RSL’s register as an Ex Service Organisation and it was recommended that individual members should consider joining the RSL to access the services they provide. (It is noted that the NAA can offer similar services but location of Branches is limited).

The Secretary advised the Meeting that he had been in contact with other ESOs to advise them of our existence and to be placed on their mailing lists.
 

Full details of future Events are available in the Events page of www.submarinesaustralia.com.

Date & Time State Event Remarks
1st July 2009 1100 WA Executive Meeting ANZAC Club. Contact Paul Meakin for details.
5th July 2009 1100 WA WA AGM Please note change of venue for the WA Branch AGM. Now at the Navy Club Point Peron Rockingham. BYO BBQ o/c.  Contact Paul Meakin for details.
12th July 2009 1130 NSW Annual General Meeting City of Sydney RSL 565 George Street SYDNEY
19th July 2009 1130 VIC Business Meeting Business Meeting. ESU. Committee meet 11am Contact John (Boot) Hatfield 0408 051 085 for more information.
28th June 2009 1130

19th July 2009 1230

SA Annual General Meeting Venue: Port Adelaide Naval Association. Partners are again requested to provide something for a luncheon get together after conclusion of formalities. Members are also requested to provide something for the raffle. Contact Allen Francis 8348 7816 for more information.

AROUND THE TRAPS

I received this rather cryptic email from Peter 'Arab' Clark; "You may wish to include a note in next newsletter that the recently completed 'Memorial' in Peaceful Bay' will be officially opened on 15th August."  My brain cells are disappearing rapidly and i thought that I may have forgotten something so I asked for more info.  Grahame 'Bubbles' Boyce answered "Trust the Arab to start something. What he is on about is a letter/article that was published in the W.A. copy of the RSL paper (the Listening Post) about a memorial dedication here at Peaceful Bay. We have a small (29 members) sub-branch of the RSL that we started up about 5 years ago and we have been going very well. With the help of grants from the State Lotteries commission, Veterans affairs, State Government and the local Shire we have built a memorial to the fallen, commemorating all Conflicts Australia has been involved in.  The Memorial is going to be dedicated on Saturday the 15th of august at 1100. The dedication is open to the public and any serving or ex-serving members who wish to come. Medals to be worn. All the best, Bubbles."  You can always trust a Chief Stoker to come up with the answers....

Terry 'Coyote' Wyatt Found this old photo of Ken Warden and the late John Hodgens with RNer Terry Gettings, taken on Cape Verdi Island (1967) when HMS Opportune made an emergency stop for a Tiffy with a sore tooth.

Another ex submariner that changed over to the RAAF is Nev McClean.  He writes "Left pussers in ' 79 after a reasonable career in "O" Boats. Joined the RAAF and became an Airframe Fitter. Served my whole RAAF career at 3AD in Amberley on FIII's. Left RAAF in ' 89 and returned to Mullumbimby to work family property, mainly timber; also grew bananas for awhile. Bought a milko business in Byron Bay in 1996 and sold it 2003. Currently drive a school bus for a local company. Looking forward to final retirement."  I am always after items for the log and I find these interesting, send yours in now.

New Member, Phillip 'Max' Walker wrote "Glad to be back in the fold again  Should also give you an update on the dedication ceremony at the Australian National Maritime Museum held yesterday, Saturday 20th.  A number of us old buggers who used to push Onslow around gathered to remember Chris Passlow who tragically passed away in March 1981 A commemorative plaque to Chris' memory was dedicated and fixed onto Onslow, currently berthed as a permanent museum display.

Members of both the crew and the Passlow family, along with currently serving members enjoyed the ceremony and following that, the chance to have a chat and catch up with mates we haven't seen for many years.

A special thanks should go to Cmdr Mick Carew who is handling many of the administrative matters with this issue. He's doing a great job.
Needless to say there was the opportunity for a quiet sherbet at the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel afterwards and further chance to reminisce.  I'd have to say I'm extremely happy - but not surprised - at how easy it is to slip back into the camaraderie and friendships with mates not seen for many many years.   I'm also not surprised that the level of humour and "piss taking" also hasn't changed. I look forward to renewing many old acquaintances in the times ahead."


Greg Pennicuick reports "After an all round look I am going deep for an unspecified period. Resurface before 13 July for surgeons inspection. No docking planned as last refit was deemed a success to this present time. Will be silent running, only receiving any scheds. as they are sent via mobile platform."

Interested in radio controlled model submarines?  Bob Dimmack said "Have a look at our Web site www.otwdesigns.com.  The video on home page of our site of an  "O" class was taken in Perth by one of your countryman."

Frank Owen, Hon Treasurer of the Submarine Institute of Australia Inc. advises members that Tim Brown has written an obituary which was published in the 'Australian'. A copy of the obituary has been placed on the SIA News page. He added "For more information on Max's life, you may also care to visit the new SIA Online Shop where we have copies of the DVD 'Above and Below: The Extraordinary Life of Max Shean'."  The cost of the DVD is only $20.

Received an email from the Westernport Oberon Association looking after HMAS Otama "We have lost the combination lock code for the comms room door. It was written in pencil above the door and someone rubbed it off. Looks like we may need to get a safe cracker in. In the hope that on decommissioning codes were reset to some default I was wondering if you could refer me to anyone or put up a please help note for us. I would also like to get some information on who the manufacturer of the secure door was eg; Chub etc and how many turns of the tumblers were required to enter the code."  I sought assistance from Darren Thompson, I could never open combinations, ask my ex TOW's.  I can finally reveal a long held secret, we had about 12 safes in the Tech Office and after getting pissed off trying to open them I had them all changed to the same combination.....

Not many photos of SUBCON have been sent in yet, in fact only this one of Dave Bryant, Roger  Faramus and Lloyd Blake.  They were all Otway crew in 1968.  Any one with SUBCON photos please send them in.

Lloyd Blake is after a contact address for SM Cox’n John Curtain, can you help?  If so please let me know.

Two French paratroopers were seconded to the SAS for special training. After the first day they met up in the bar. "Ah, Pierre," asks one, "'ow 'av you been doing?"
"Merde!" answers Pierre. "I 'av 'ad ze most terrible day. Terrible! At seex zis morning I was woken by zis beeg 'airy sergeant. 'E dragged me out of bed and onto ze parade ground."
"And zen what 'appened?" enquired his mate.
"I will tell you what 'appened! 'E made me climb urp zis seely leetle platform five ft off ze ground and zen 'e said "Jump!"
"And did you jurmp?" asks his mate.
"I did not.. I told 'im - 'I am a French paratrooper. I do not jump five feet. Eet is beneath my dignity'."
"And zen what 'appened?" asks his mate.
"Zen 'e made me climb urp zis seely leetle platform ten feet off ze ground, and 'e said "Jump."
"And did you jump?" asks his mate.
"I did not. I told 'im - 'I am a French paratrooper. I do not jump ten feet. Eet is beneath my dignity'."
"What 'appened zen?" asks his mate.
"Zen 'e made me climb urp zis rickety platform un'undred feet above ze parade ground. 'E undid 'is trousers, took out zis enormous weely, and 'e said 'If you do not jump, I am going to steek zis right urp your  burm!'"
"Sacre Bleu, mon ami" says his mate. "And did you jump?"
"A leetle, at ze beginning."


PROJECT AE1 FOLLOW UP EXPEDITION RABAUL 14-20 JULY 09
The purpose of this expedition is to locate and evaluate George Tyers’ sighting of an E type submarine in 1971. The previous expedition conducted by Project AE1 surveyed the area and what was believed to be George’s upside down wreck, was examined by divers Spencer and Alhafith.

Mark Spencer’s report substantiated by Samir Alhafith indicated a definite wreck with the ships bottom uppermost, but substantially covered in pyroclastic matter of varying depth. It is believed this wreck is the “marker” which should lead to the submarine wreck. It is thought to be the Keifuku Maru of approximately 5000 tons, but according to JANAC (Joint Allied assessment of Japanese wrecks of WW2, the Keifuku Maru lies some distance south off Kokopo in the position of a wreck called locally the Takobar Wreck.

In the position marked by the Project and confirmed by George Tyers, lie several wrecks:
• Manko Maru
• Toniura Maru and
• Tetzan Maru.

The names are academic but may be important at a later date.

The last mission was unable to detect a submarine despite intensive crisscrossing of the probability area. This indicates that if AE1 was there, there is every likelihood that it is covered extensively by pyroclastic matter. This will therefore require the use of a magnetometer for detection purposes.

Mission intentions
It is intended to confirm, by magnetometer, the presence of a ship of comparable tonnage in the “marker” position and search with magnetometers to a radius of approximately 500 metres, being the drift distance of George Tyers’ anchor before snagging the submarine contact.

If a magnetic strike is obtained in a highly probable position and the strike is of a comparable magnitude to an 800 ton target, the position will be accurately marked for further investigation. If conditions are suitable, the target will be dived on for possible identification.   If the diver confirms an E Class submarine, the Project will make immediate arrangements to have Mark Spencer deployed with his specialized rebreather equipment and camera to record the find. The use of Samir Alhafith and his video camera is a possibility. The resulting video rush could be traded with the Channel Seven Network for any follow up air time.

The Australian Government and RAN will be immediately informed if success crowns the team’s efforts.

Project Team
Commander John Foster OAM RAN (Rtd) Team Leader & Logistics
Jeremy Green - Western Australian Maritime Museum Remote sensing
John Riley - Riley’s Wrecks Remote sensing & diver
Major Tom Hall RFD ED (Rtd) Historical records & Descendant  relatives.

Logistics
It is hoped that adequate funds will allow this mission to proceed. Additional funds may be required to support the deployment of Mark Spencer and Samir Alhafith. If AE1 is actually located, then security of the site must be preserved at all costs and the position classified.

Commander John Foster OAM RAN (Rtd)

Note:  The SAA fully support the search for AE1 and request that visitors to the Log consider making a donation towards this cause.  Contact me for details.


VETERANS' AFFAIRS
Robotic assisted prostatectomy

DVA have received a number of requests for robotic assisted laparoscopic prostatectomy. In 2006, the Medical Services Advisory Committee (MSAC – the body which advises the Government about items on the Medicare Benefits Schedule) evaluated the use of robotic assisted surgery compared to open radical prostatectomy in terms of safety, effectiveness and cost-effectiveness.

The MSAC review concluded that there was uncertainty about the comparative cost-effectiveness of robotic laparoscopic surgery as a shorter period of hospitalisation does not offset the additional costs involved. MSAC also noted that there was insufficient evidence on long-term outcomes compared to an open radical prostatectomy, that is the remission rates associated with incomplete removal of the cancerous tissue. Open radical prostatectomy is still considered the “gold standard” for this type of procedure.

Consequently, DVA does not accept financial responsibility for robotic assisted surgery, whether requested by a doctor or hospital - except in rare cases where significant clinical evidence has been provided to support its use as the only viable treatment option. Any request for exceptional circumstances to support the funding of robotic surgery is considered on a case-by-case basis and should be submitted to DVA for approval prior to the surgery taking place.

This request must be made by the treating doctor. DVA will not fund robotic laparoscopic prostatectomy on the basis of veteran’s or surgeon’s personal preference for this procedure. If the robotic assisted surgery is provided without DVA approval - either not obtaining it or proceeding having been rejected by DVA - then DVA will only fund the surgery at the equivalent DVA fee for the open radical prostatectomy.

In terms of requests from hospitals, DVA will not fund requests for the same reasons outlined above.  DVA’s decision in this matter reflects a Departmental position to fund the requested treatment. It is not a direction to the treating doctor on whether to undertake the surgery, which is clearly a medical judgement.

DEFENCE NEWS
Russia Set to Build New Nuclear-Armed Submarine
Russia is preparing to begin work next month on a new advanced nuclear-armed submarine, RIA Novosti reported yesterday (see GSN, June 18). "A second Yasen-class nuclear submarine will be laid down on July 24 at the Sevmash shipyard on the eve of Russian Navy Day," said Malakhit design bureau chief Vladimir Pyalov.

The submarine would be capable of launching several different models of long-range, nuclear-tipped cruise missiles farther than 3,000 miles. The vessel could also engage in close combat with enemy warships and submarines.

Construction of the first Yasen-class submarine, called the Severodvinsk, has been fraught with delays and cost overruns. Work on that vessel began in 1992, and it is not scheduled to join the fleet until 2010. It would carry 24 cruise missiles. As of last year, the Severodvinsk had cost $146 million.

Russia is planning to build several additional military watercraft by 2015 -- including five Borei-class submarines that would carry nuclear-armed Bulava ballistic missiles (RIA Novosti, June 25).

Submarine builder cuts 86 jobs
Ship and submarine building company ASC has cut 86 jobs in Adelaide associated with its Collins class submarine project. It told 65 staff and 21 contractors of their sackings this morning. Another 35 staff will be moved to work on the Air Warfare Destroyer (AWD) program.

ASC says the job cuts will reduce costs. CEO Graeme Bulmer says there are generous redundancy packages for affected staff and they will have access to support services. "It's not just job cuts but it's a restructuring of our organisation from the top to improve our efficiencies," he said.

ASC will retain a workforce of 950. "ASC has adjusted its workforce in terms of its current contract and that's a matter they have to manage, but the overall effect of the AWD contract will be thousands of new jobs and this is unfortunate but part of the ASC's workforce management program," he said.

The Federal Government took ASC off the market several months ago, citing the global financial crisis as the reason. "We'd been preparing to be sold for the last two years and the plan was to sell the company this year before the end of the year," Mr Bulmer said. "But the shareholder minister and the Government have decided to defer the sale for an indefinite period.  "We're a very viable company with a great growth future."

New attack submarine will be called “Kazan”
Construction of the second submarine in the new “Graney” class of nuclear powered attack submarines will probably start at Sevmash on July 24.  According to RIA Novosti, the new submarine will get the name “Kazan”. Construction is planned to start in connection with celebration of the Russian Navy’s day, which takes place on the last Sunday in July.

As BarentsObserver reported, the first submarine in the “Graney” (Russian classification “Yasen”) class, “Severodvinsk” is under construction at Sevmash shipyard in Severodvnisk, Arkhangelsk.  Submarines of the “Graney” class will have a maximum speed of 16 knots surfaced and 31 knots submerged and they will be 119m long, 13,5m wide and 9,4m high. They will be armed with 24 cruice missiles of the type SS-NX-26, according to Wikipedia.

Russia to take part in Indian diesel submarine tender for Diesel-propelled submarine
Russia will participate in an expected tender to supply diesel-electric submarines to the Indian navy, the Russian state arms exporter said on Friday. "We will offer India an export version of the Lada class diesel submarine - the Amur class vessel. We will take part in the Indian tender when it is announced with these submarines or vessels of another class," said Oleg Azizov, head of Rosoboronexport's delegation at the International Maritime Defense Show 2009 in St. Petersburg.

"We have a bilateral cooperation agreement [in the military-technical sphere] until 2020, which includes the possibility of supplying submarines to this country," Azizov added.

The Project-677, or Lada class, diesel submarine, whose export version is known as the Amur 1650, features a new anti-sonar coating for its hull, an extended cruising range, and advanced anti-ship and anti-submarine weaponry, including the Club-S integrated cruise missile systems.

Azizov also said Vietnam and Egypt were studying the possibility of buying Russian Project 636 Kilo class diesel submarines. "Vietnam is still studying various possibilities for the development of its submarine fleet. If they choose Project 636 submarines, offered by Russia, we will start talks on the issue," the official said, adding that the same approach applied to Egypt.

The Project 636 Kilo class submarine is thought to be one of the most silent submarine classes in the world. It has been specifically designed for anti-shipping and anti-submarine operations in relatively shallow waters. Russia has built Kilo class submarines for India, China and Iran.

Azizov earlier said Russia could sell up to 40 fourth-generation diesel-electric submarines to foreign customers by 2015.

Order for the Second Barracuda Attack Submarine
Hervé Morin, the French minister of defence, today announced the order for the second Barracuda-class nuclear attack submarine. The Barracuda program, which calls for the delivery of six boats between 2017 and 2028, is valued at 7.9 billion euros and will provide work for several thousand people through its production phase.

The French defence procurement agency, Délégation générale pour l’armement (DGA), today awarded to DCNS and AREVA-TA the order for the second Barracuda-class next-generation nuclear attack submarine, as planned in the umbrella contract awarded on Dec. 21, 2006.

In parallel, the assembly of the lead boat, Suffren, also began on June 26 with the welding of the first two sections of its aft hull.

Characterized by their low detectability and their “hunt and kill” capabilities, nuclear attack submarines are deployed on all maritime theaters of operation (Atlantic, Mediterranean, Indian Ocean, etc.).

The Barracuda program is intended to gradually replace the six Rubis-class boats now in service with the French navy. The Barracuda will be armed with the future Artemis heavyweight torpedo, the Exocet anti-ship missile and the future naval cruise missile. They will also be able to deploy special forces and their equipment.

I Hear You, Yes I Do
The U.S. Navy has revealed that the June 11 incident, where, the American destroyer USS John McCain, while training off Subic Bay in the Philippines, was actually tracking a Chinese submarine as it ran into the destroyer's towed sonar array. The Chinese admitted the sub was one of theirs, and the boat was apparently following the American ship unaware that a sonar array (which usually operates over a hundred meters beneath the surface, and two kilometers behind the ship towing it) was in the way. The Chinese have not revealed which submarine, or even which class, was involved in the collision. There is probably not much damage to sub, since it fled the scene without surfacing. The array was damaged, but not in a way that indicated serious damage to the sub.

The Chinese sub was probably a diesel-electric sub, which is a lot quieter under water than one of their nuclear powered models. The incident brings up memories of similar incidents with Russian subs during the Cold War. Some of these collisions were believed to be intelligence operations, an effort to grab portions of the American sonar array for examination (and reverse engineering.)

U.S. anti-submarine forces (subs, aircraft and surface ships) are increasingly playing tag with Chinese subs, which was what the McCaine was doing when the collision took place. As was done with Russian subs during the Cold War, the American sailors want to hone their skills at finding Chinese subs. All this effort is kept quite secret, as any information about American successes or failures, can be useful to the Chinese.

Come on Boof and Niggs, tucker time.............

Sunday, 21st June 2009

Thanks to those that responded to my request not to forward crap email on while I was away and THANKS to those that ignored my request not to forward crap email on while I was away.

I have survived my trip across the Nullabor to attend SUBCON 2009 with Boof and my Big Brother.  We had a good trip, but a larger camper would have been more comfortable, poor Boof was a getting squashed at night and had problems sleeping as Brother snores...

Found time for fishing, mainly in SA as it was too cold in the west.  Found a perfect place, Haslam Jetty, about 6 houses and a Post office.  Caught heaps of squid so we had them for breakfast, lunch and dinner...

I had intentions of keeping The Log updated weekly, but all good plans go to crap lately.  My laptop decided that it was on holidays after the first few days and it kept shutting down whenever it felt like it.  The second problem was internet access, it is not readily available in many places in the outback!!!  Getting mobile phone reception was not easy either.

The biggest problem though was the cancellation of our domain name submarinesaustralia.com which wreaked havoc and caused my email access to be suspended.  The domain registration company forgot to inform me that payment was due and turned it off, I lost access to everything.  If you tried to visit the SAA site you may have found it down.  As a result of this I could not access email until I sorted it out on my return and I ended up with several hundred email that required responses.  I may have lost some that were sent during the suspension, so send again if you are awaiting a response.

SUBCON was a great success and the WA mob did us proud, well done to all concerned, a great effort.  The AGM went off well too, very few interruptions and all issues addressed in a timely manner.  For my sins I am now secretary, I can stop acting!

I have previously reported that Niggs loves stalking the chooks but was surprised to discover that he had taken a liking to them and I am now down to four chooks and one rooster.  He has left them alone since my return, he has Boof and I to chew on instead.

That's it, I have things to do, will do better next week I hope.

Eternal Patrol - Lieutenant-Commander Max Shean Max Shean DSO* RANVR (Rtd)
Lieutenant-Commander Max Shean RAN (Rtd) DSO and Bar, who died on June 15th aged 90, was the Patron of the WA Branch of the Association.  Max married Mary Golding in 1944. She survives him with their two daughters.

Max was one of the small band of young men who, in the face of extraordinary peril, carried the sea war into enemy harbours; in the process they won a total of 68 awards for bravery, including four VCs; for his own exploits, Shean received a DSO and Bar.

In September 1942 Shean volunteered for special and hazardous service without knowing what this meant. After only 10 days' training, some of the volunteers dropped out; Shean thought that this took a lot of courage, while for him it seemed easier to stand at the back and hope that no one noticed his fear. When he learned soon afterwards that he was to become a diver in a secret, 51ft, four-man submarine known as an X-craft, his knees began to shake. But with his combination of engineering skills and seamanship, it turned out to be a task for which he was well-suited.

As an X-craft diver, Shean had to practise getting in and out of his submarine underwater through a small wet-and-dry chamber, shutting himself off from the rest of the crew before flooding the compartment and opening an external hatch.

Shean practised cutting underwater nets in Scottish lochs, which were always cold and black. There were accidents and deaths during training, but Shean and his fellow Australians always felt sure that they could beat the odds.

His first mission was Operation Source, the attack by a flotilla of X-craft on the German battleship Tirpitz in north Norway in September 1943. The X-craft were manned by passage crews and towed there by parent submarines, while attack crews, including Shean's, prepared themselves in the towing vessels.

Disaster struck, however, when Shean's X-9, behind Syrtis, broke her tow and the passage crew was lost. The towrope became tangled round Syrtis's port propeller, and Shean, whose diving suit was in X-9, plunged over the side into the freezing waters. Wearing overalls weighted with steel bars in the pockets, Shean repeatedly duck-dived until he could free the tangled rope. Knowing that, if attacked from the air, Syrtis would dive and abandon him on the surface, Shean was more frightened than he had ever been; and when he was hauled on board, the submarine's commanding officer rewarded him with a brusque "Well done!"

One of the lessons of Operation Source was the potential for confusion during multiple attacks; so on Operation Guidance, in April 1944, Shean, now in command of X-24, was towed by Sceptre to Bergen, Norway, to make a solo attack on a large floating dock.

Shean successfully penetrated the fjords to reach the harbour, but faulty intelligence caused him to lay X-24's explosive charges under a 7,800-ton German merchant ship, Barenfels, instead of the floating dock. Otherwise it was a model attack, and 24 hours later, sick and suffering from headaches caused by the stale air in the boat, Shean and his crew rendezvoused at sea with Sceptre. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Order for his great courage, skill and determination in a most hazardous enterprise.

Following D-Day, Shean's flotilla was deployed to the Far East in command of an improved craft, XE-4. When Admiral Chester Nimitz, Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Ocean Areas, and an experienced submariner, saw his first XE-craft he declared it was a "suicide craft" which had no place in the Allies' order of battle. But when orders came from Washington to cut two underwater telegraph cables off Japanese-occupied Saigon, he found that the British midget submarines were the only force capable of achieving this.

The aim of Operation Sabre was to force the Japanese to use wireless communications which could be intercepted and deciphered. Shean designed new grapnels to hook the cables, which Engine Room Artificer Vernon "Ginger" Coles manufactured, and set off under tow from Queensland. En route to Indo-China, Shean nearly drowned. XE-4 was running on the surface, with the hatches closed to prevent the boat flooding, when Shean was swept away by a wave; but after "swimming the fastest strokes of my life" he grabbed the rudder and hauled himself hand-over-hand along the jumping wire and climbed on board again.

Undeterred, with only underwater dead reckoning updated by occasional sightings of Cap St Jacques lighthouse, Shean expertly navigated XE-4 into the shallow mouth of the Mekong river where, on July 31 1945, he began a submarine trawl for the cables. After ploughing the seabed for hours, XE-4 was, at 12.05, suddenly brought to a halt: it had snagged the first cable, and 13 minutes later the diver, fellow-Australian Sub-Lieutenant Ken Briggs, returned with a short length as proof that it had been cut. Resuming his trawl at 13.26, Shean found the second cable, much deeper than the first, and Sub-Lieutenant Adam Bergius made three attempts to cut it.

Shean could only wait until an exhausted Bergius emerged triumphantly from the airlock brandishing a length of cable.

Shortly after midnight, Shean rendezvoused with the submarine Spearhead and was towed in triumph to Subic Bay, in the Philippines. He was awarded a Bar to his DSO and the US Bronze Star for his gallantry, perseverance and outstanding skill. Coles, who was in Shean's crew in X-24 and in XE-4, was awarded a DSM and a mention in despatches.

Maxwell Shean was born on July 6 1918 in Perth, where his father was clerk to the Supreme Court, and the young Max spent his youth "messing about in tin boats on the river". He was studying Engineering at the University of Western Australia when he heard news of Dunkirk. Although strongly advised to finish his studies, he was determined to join the Royal Australian Naval Volunteer Reserve.

The Royal Navy needed skilled anti-submarine warfare officers for the Battle of the Atlantic, and eventually one fifth of all ASWOs were trained at HMAS Rushcutter in Sydney, where Shean was sent in late 1940. By the summer of 1941 he was in his first ship, the corvette Bluebell, which he described as "like your first girlfriend, she goes into your heart. I served 14 months in Bluebell, she kept me afloat and gave me three meals a day, made me seasick and she sank a U-boat."

Bluebell was part of the 37th Escort Group escorting convoys between Britain and Gibraltar, and Shean took part in some of the bitterest fighting of the Battle of the Atlantic. His skill as an ASWO and proficiency in using his ASDIC (sonar) earned him the nickname "King Ping".

At the end of 1941 Bluebell took part in the desperate defence of convoy OG77, which was attacked by a wolf pack; but five U-boats were sunk. On the night of December 11/12 Shean heard the high-pitched whine of torpedoes three times through his headset and warned his captain to turn Bluebell, and at midnight he dropped two patterns of depth charges. Shean's postwar research in British and German archives convinced him that he had sunk U-208.

While training in X-craft on the Isle of Bute, Shean travelled to Aberfeldy, Perthshire, to seek his Scottish ancestors. There he was warned that the village shop's pretty assistant was "spoken for". Nevertheless, romance blossomed, and despite wartime security Shean even smuggled her into the builder's yard, where she broke a bottle of Australian champagne on the bows of Shean's boat, XE-4, and gave it its unofficial name, Exciter.

After the war Shean finished his degree and worked for the City of Perth Electricity and Gas Department, and the State Electricity Commission until his retirement in 1978.

In 1979 he celebrated the 150th anniversary of the settlement of Western Australia by winning the open division of the Parmelia Yacht Race from Plymouth to Fremantle. His yacht, Bluebell, is today moored at Fremantle Sailing Club. In May 2005 Shean and his wife joined the Department of Veterans' Affairs VE-Day mission to Europe.

Shean's logical approach to problems and his interest in engineering shine through his modest wartime biography, Corvette and Submarine (1992). Once one of his daughter's boyfriends remarked that he ran his household like a battleship, which Shean took as a great compliment.

Max was a true gentleman and a great loss to the submarine community. A Naval Funeral will take place at KARRAKATTA Cemetery on Monday 22 June. If attending please arrive at Main Entrance by 1015, dress includes Medals. No Floral Tributes, the Association will make donations to suitable charities.

SAA NEWS  

MINUTES OF AGM

Members are advised that the Minutes of Annual General Meeting of the Submarine Association Australia held in Fremantle on Sunday 7th June 2008 will be online later this week.

The National Committee Meeting was held on the Saturday and the outcomes were positive and the discussions positive.  The theme for the future is 'Communications' and the support of all Branch presidents was assured.

It was evident from the responses from the Branches that it was time to 'renew and refresh' our image with our Membership and I am sure that the process that was agreed to will go a long way to demonstrate we are moving in the right direction.

As there were no nominations for the National Executive they were re-elected for another year.

WA Branch
Please note the change of venue for the WA Branch AGM. Now at the Navy Club Point Peron Rockingham 1100 Sunday 5th July. BYO BBQ on completion.

SA Branch
Please note the change of date from 28th June 2009 1130 to the 19th July 2009 1230 for the SA Branch Annual General Meeting.
Venue: Port Adelaide Naval Association. Partners are again requested to provide something for a luncheon get together after conclusion of formalities. Members are also requested to provide something for the raffle.

Full details of future Events are available in the Events page of www.submarinesaustralia.com.

Date & Time State Event Remarks
20th June 2009 RAN Dedication function for Onlsow plaque Australian National Maritime Museum (ANMM) commencing at 0930 completing at 1000. The Deputy Chief of Navy will be presenting the plaque. For details
June 2009 TAS Social Weekend away on the East Coast. If you would like more information call our Social Coordinator, Mike Crellin on 0407 663 649.  dates TBC.
21st June 2009 VIC General Meeting Social meeting, ESU, South Yarra. Contact John (Boot) Hatfield 0408 051 085 for more information.
28th June 2009 1130

19th July 2009 1230

SA Annual General Meeting Venue: Port Adelaide Naval Association. Partners are again requested to provide something for a luncheon get together after conclusion of formalities. Members are also requested to provide something for the raffle. Contact Allen Francis 8348 7816 for more information.
1st July 2009 1100 WA Executive Meeting ANZAC Club. Contact Paul Meakin for details.
5th July 2009 1100 WA WA AGM Please note change of venue for the WA Branch AGM. Now at the Navy Club Point Peron Rockingham. BYO BBQ o/c.  Contact Paul Meakin for details.
12th July 2009 1130 NSW Annual General Meeting City of Sydney RSL 565 George Street SYDNEY
19th July 2009 1130 VIC Business Meeting Business Meeting. ESU. Committee meet 11am Contact John (Boot) Hatfield 0408 051 085 for more information.

AROUND THE TRAPS

Noel Lowrie wrote "This photo was taken in 1968 (I think) in HMS OTTER. Can you put names to these men who now must be 40 years on. Makes me feel old, I was the L.O. and P. Briggs was the Navigator. Don't mention Silver Tower.!!!"  Come on, I know one (John Cornish, bottom left).

I think that there are some wackos out there, received the following email last week "Sir,  I run an events company in Sydney, and have been asked to try and stage an unusual product launch in the first week in September, whereby a box of a new product will be dropped out of a helicopter and floated by parachute onto a floating barge on Sydney Harbour. A submarine will come to the surface next to the barge, they load the box on to the submarine, and the submarine then descends and takes it away.

Now, the first few pieces are relatively easy, but finding a submarine is obviously the difficult bit. Would you possibly be able to point me in any directions that may help? The product is a new brand of alcohol that is being launched in the first week of September." My response to him was in the form of a question "How many dicks do you have?" but it went over his head, his response was 'Huh?".  Am I getting too old for this????

Last month Phil "Max" Walker wrote an item about sharing a flat in Sydney with two other former submariners - Mick Bartel and  Ron "Dutchie" Vandenberg.  This week I received an email which said "My wife Googled my name and found a particular article about me in your Sunday 24th May 2009 "Around the Traps" by Phil "Max" Walker.  I'm the culprit Ron "Dutchie" Vandenberg (ex ABROSM) and I must admit I never knew of your association so perhaps I should investigate joining. I assume members have contact details so that perhaps we can rekindle some long lost friendships."  Always good to find another submariner that has come up from the deep.

Another picture puzzle. "Come on, how good are you with names? I know them, do you?" asks John 'Boot' Hatfield. The photo is of the Ovens crew, and John Angelini and Boot are easy to recognise but the others may be a challenge.  The interesting thing about this photo is that boot is sober, a rare occurrence, but Angie has not let us down, normal stae for the times, pissed!

Are you a Member of the SAA and have not updated your personal details?  In an attempt to ensure better communications I have been validating the Submarine Association's Membership list and request that you complete the Form available at http://submarinesaustralia.com/details.html

Positions Vacant
Oceanlinx Limited has a series of small construction and manufacturing contracts related to a Marine Renewable Energy project coming up in the Sydney/Wollongong area and Stuart Weylandsmith, the Chief Operating Officer, thinks he could do with Technical Officer(s) to be his eyes and ears at the contractor yards.

Currently he needs three guys:

  • one to handle the fabrication of a 150 tonne steel floating structure

  • one to handle the manufacture of a turbine hub, blades and actuating mechanism; and

  • one to assist in the assembly, integration and set to work of the turbine and electrical generator.

Ex-Navy tradesmen with some experience in QA or Naval Representative roles in a dockyard would probably suit. The roles would suit retired or semi-retired persons and would run for between 2 and 3 months probably part time.

Stuart Weylandsmith
Direct Phone: 02 9549 6308 Mobile: 0407 609 303 | Skype: s.weylandsmith_olx   Email: stuart.weylandsmith@oceanlinx.com


On a bitterly cold morning in Canberra Kevvy is being chauffered toParliament House. It is so cold that Lake Burley Griffin is frozen over. As he jumps out of the limo Kev looks over the lake and notices that someone has "peed" on the ice and left the message........."KEVVY SUCKS".  Kevvy is enraged and orders ASIO to investigate with "no expense spared" and to report within two weeks.

Two weeks later the head of ASIO reports to the PM and says ...."our investigation is over and I have three pieces of news for you... good news, bad news and terribly bad shocking news".  Well says Kevvy give me the good news.  The head of ASIO says......we spent $5 million dollars on the investigation and have come to a successful result.

Well says Kev what's the bad news ? The head of ASIO says "the DNA testing shows that the urine is Wayne Swann's".  Kevvy is shocked beyond belief. Looking pale, Kevvy says "and what is the terribly bad shocking news?"

The ASIO chief replies..."the hand writing is Julia Gillards".


The Injured Service Persons Association is holding a raffle to raise funds for a memorial in Canberra. The link to the Association and prize is: http://www.ispa.asn.au/raffle.html.  Your support will be appreciated.

Peter Reid wrote "As a department head stationed on a Navy vessel, I was concerned about one of my senior enlisted men. He was a superb technician, but he had a problem taking orders. One day I took him aside and suggested he try something that had worked for me.  "Whenever an officer gives you a directive that you think is stupid, just say, 'Yes, sir'. But in your mind, think, 'You’re an idiot!'" I said.  "Will this work for you?"
He smiled at me and replied, "Yes, sir!"

Interesting sites

  • Not sure if you are already aware but they have digitised 1958 to 1973 Navy news. Should bring back some memories.

  • The publication "Force 2030 - Your Guide to the 2009 Defence White Paper" is available for downloading as a PDF at Defence 2030

  • Allen Story found a great new online dating service that would be suitable for most submariners..... click here for sample page.  Be careful though, offence may be caused to some of you less adventurous types!!!

Vale - George William Day
January 1, 1936 ~ April 27, 2009. A veteran of the RCN, George served in RN Submarines during the late 1950's & early 1960's,
George passed away peacefully with his family at his side in the Nanaimo Regional Hospital after 11 days in Intensive Care. He is survived by his wife Monica, son Mark (Pam) grandchildren Kira and Bryson and brother Loid (Elaine), nephews and nieces, aunts and cousins. His convivial personality and perennial cheerfulness endeared him to his many friends and acquaintances. He will be sadly missed. He had requested that there be no service and that his ashes be scattered at sea.

VETERANS' AFFAIRS
VETERANS’ REVIEW BOARD

The Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, Alan Griffin, today announced that Mr Michael Griffin has resigned as Principal Member of the Veterans’ Review Board and that Mr David Mackrell will be appointed as the acting Principal Member pending the recruitment of a permanent replacement.  “David Mackrell has considerable senior management experience in both the Commonwealth and state public services and an extensive knowledge of veterans’ issues,” Mr Griffin said.

“The veteran community will be familiar with Mr Mackrell from his time as Deputy Commissioner (Queensland) of the Department of Veterans’ Affairs. His strong skills in administration will ensure the continued efficient operation of the Board during the period of transition to a new Principal Member. “The Veterans’ Review Board has an ongoing role in providing an independent tribunal in an informal and supportive environment which ensures members of the veteran community continue to receive their lawful entitlements.

“In the coming weeks, I will begin a recruitment process to select a new permanent Principal Member of the Veterans’ Review Board. The position will be advertised nationally.

“David Mackrell has agreed to a three month appointment, during which the selection process will proceed.

Background
The Veterans’ Review Board is an independent tribunal that reviews decisions on veterans’ entitlements and some military rehabilitation and compensation claims.  The Board is made up of members who decide cases and staff who assist the members. There are four types of members: Principal Member, Senior Members, Services Members and Members.

The Principal Member is responsible for the overall operations of the Board. Ongoing appointments of members are made by the Governor-General.

Two Kellicks were discussing popular family trends on sex, marriage, and family values. The Kellick Stoker said, 'I didn't sleep with my wife before we got married, did you?' The Kellick Greenie replied, 'I'm not sure, what was her maiden name?'

DEFENCE NEWS
Submarine training tank springs a 300,000L leak

The lost water is the equivalent to a person taking 6000 showers, flushing a toilet 38,000 times or using a dishwasher 12,000 times. The accident is the result of poor maintenance of the $25million Submarine Escape Training Facility, which has been left idle since May last year because of a mismanaged Defence tender to run the facility. The SETF is used to give submariners pressurised underwater escape training inside a tall cylinder-shaped tank, filled with about 500,000L of water.

However, a valve and pipe began leaking the weekend before last, causing 60 per cent of the water in the tank to leak out into nearby ditches. The navy did not detect the leak until early on the following Monday.

The tank is usually emptied once a year for maintenance purposes, but this is the first time in the SETF's 20-year history that it has lost a large volume of water by mistake. The facility, described on the navy's website as "the most advanced of its kind in the world today", has been idle for 13 months after the navy and the Australian Submarine Corp, the original preferred tender, argued over aspects of a Defence tender to run the centre.

The dispute forced the navy to issue another tender to run the centre, but as yet no winner has been announced. The result of the bungle is that more than 100 navy submariners have been flown around the world at taxpayers' expense to conduct training in Canada rather than at HMAS Stirling.

Escape training is mandatory for all new submariners and qualified submariners must take a refresher course every three years. The head of navy maritime systems, Rear Admiral Boyd Robinson, told a parliamentary committee this month that the navy expected to award a contract to run SETF next month and start-up training and certification of workers could take a further three months.

Meanwhile, a British submarine rescue vehicle has finally arrived in Australia, ending a 2 1/2-year period when the navy had no deep-sea submarine rescue capability.

The Royal Navy LR5 vehicle was brought to Australia to quell growing criticism from media and submariners that there needed to be a rescue vehicle based in the country in case of a submarine emergency.  The navy's Australian rescue vehicle, Remora, sank in December 2006 and has still not regained certification.

Submariners recall close encounters of Soviet kind
HMAS Ovens powered slowly through the frigid depths of the Tasman Sea, the crew of the 90mlong Oberon-class submarine manning their posts in silence.  Their enemy, a Soviet submarine sent to spy on the Australian coastline, lurked somewhere nearby.

It was 1971, the height of the Cold War, and the Ovens was busy playing its part in the cloak-and-dagger battle for intelligence supremacy raging between the US and the Soviet Union.

Gosnells resident Fred Lawrence, 64, who was the petty officer in charge of sonar on the Ovens at the time, said their mission had been to stay undetected and keep track of the enemy movements.  "We caught up with her somewhere down near Tasmania, he said. It was an old Russian submarine. She’d come down out of the Pacific, right down our east coast and came as far west as Albany before she turned around and went back."

Yesterday, Mr Lawrence and nine other original members of the Ovens 60-strong crew gathered at the WA Maritime Museum, where the submarine now rests on display, to commemorate 40 years since the vessel was launched.  But despite the passage of time, the old sailors remained reluctant to give away too much detail about the missions they ran during the Cold War, much of which has never been officially acknowledged by the Australian Government.

Mt Hawthorn resident Lloyd Blake, who was a petty officer on the Ovens, said most Australians were oblivious to the secret contribution Australian Cold War submariners had made beneath the waves.  Mr Blake said that during the 60s, Australian sailors training on British submarines had been involved in secret sea battles with Russian vessels on mystery tours in the Atlantic and Arctic oceans.

By 1969, Australian Oberon-class subs, such as the Ovens, were leading the espionage war against the Soviets in the southern hemisphere.  Crews would leave port in Australia with no knowledge of their mission and remain submerged for up to six weeks.

Spooks and language specialists were passengers, Mr Blake said. We were able to get within 5m of a big (enemy) ship, photograph her and record her sound signature and slip away totally undetected, he said. 

ASC welcomes new Chairman
Vice Admiral Chris Ritchie's appointment as Chairman of leading Australian naval defence company ASC has been warmly welcomed by outgoing Chairman Mr John Prescott AC.

Federal Minister for Finance and Deregulation and sole shareholder of ASC, Lindsay Tanner, announced earlier today that Vice Admiral Ritchie AO RANR would succeed Mr Prescott as Chairman on the expiry of Mr Prescott' s current term (30 June 2009).

Mr Prescott, who has been Chairman of ASC since November 2000 when the Company became 100% owned by the Commonwealth, said Vice Admiral Ritchie brought a broad range of experience and capability to the role including a deep understanding of customer requirements for the Company's services.

Vice Admiral Ritchie has had a distinguished naval career, including terms as both Chief of Navy and the Australian Defence Force Theatre Commander, and has served as a Director on ASC's Board since August 2007. He said he was honoured to be chosen as Chairman of ASC.  "I am privileged to have the opportunity of leading the Company through what will be an important time for us." he said.  "I look forward to working with the ASC Board, senior management and staff."

Vice Admiral Ritchie said that he was pleased that Mr Graeme Bulmer would continue to act as Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer while ASC's Board conducts an executive search for a replacement for Greg Tunny, who resigned in May 2009. He also acknowledged the commitment and contributions of Mr Prescott and fellow director Mr Charles Bagot, who likewise is retiring on the expiry of his present term on 30 June after serving on the Board since 2000.

"Through their roles on the Board, Mr Prescott and Mr Bagot have made significant contributions to important stages of the Company's development, in particular its expansion through diversification in submarine activities and surface ship construction," Vice Admiral Ritchie said.

Sub that sunk Kuttabul now historic site
The Japanese midget submarine which sunk HMAS Kuttabul in Sydney Harbour during World War II has been declared a historic shipwreck. The announcement came as 21 men who died on the Kuttabul just after midnight on June 1, 1942, were remembered in a memorial service at Sydney's Garden Island.

The M24 submarine fired two torpedoes at the USS Chicago but missed its intended target, with one exploding beneath the converted ferry Kuttabul that was being used for sailors' accommodation.

It was one of three midget subs, each with a two-member crew, that entered Sydney Harbour on May 31, avoiding a partially constructed anti-submarine boom net. After being detected and attacked, the crews of two midget submarines scuttled their boats and committed suicide without successfully engaging any Allied vessels.

The M24's location remained a mystery for 64 years until divers located its wreck off Bungan Head, Newport, on Sydney's northern beaches in November 2006.

Federal Heritage Minister Peter Garrett on Sunday declared the area a protected shipwreck site. He said protection under the Historic Shipwreck Act would ensure the wreck remained intact as a poignant reminder of Australia's maritime history. "The M24 submarine holds a great deal of historic significance to Australia, NSW and Japan and provides important insights into the historic events of May 31, 1942," he said on Sunday while unveiling 1,170 new names on the migrant Welcome Wall at Sydney's Darling Harbour."

China accused of secretly salvaging sunken British submarine containing 18 lost sailors
China has been accused of secretly salvaging a sunken British submarine with the remains of 18 dead sailors on board. HMS Poseidon sank in 130ft of water on June 9, 1931, after a collision with a Chinese merchant steamer 20 miles north of the British naval base at Weihai.

Relatives and survivors had always thought the vessel remained on the sea bed along with the lost men. But American historian Steven Schwankert claims the Chinese salvaged the vessel without fanfare in the early 1970s to test the skills of their naval special forces and newly formed underwater recovery units. He has been investigating the fate of the Poseidon since coming across references to its salvage in an obscure Chinese magazine titled "Modern Ships" in 2005.

He says that while the submarine itself almost certainly went for scrap, there is no indication of what happened to the crew who did not survive.

The suggestion that a Royal Navy vessel containing the remains of its crew has been raised by China without the British government being informed has provoked concern in London and among the relatives of the dead. A Foreign Office spokesman said the ministry was investigating the reports to try to confirm the fate of the vessel.

Captain Andrew Tate, Royal Navy attache to the British Embassy in Beijing, said: "Clearly if the submarine has been raised we would have expected there to have been some discussion with the United Kingdom and the Ministry of Defence and our concern would be over the bodies that still remained in the submarine."

Calls to China's State Council and the National Defence Ministry in Beijing were not returned. Grainy photos taken from other Royal Navy ships taking part in the same manoeuvres as HMS Poseidon in 1931 show the helplessness of crews on the surface who are unable to assist their colleagues on the seabed 130ft below. There are images of the 30 men who managed to scramble into the water before it sank being brought aboard the aircraft carrier HMS Hermes wrapped in blankets and others images showing bubbles from the submarine breaking the surface.

More than three hours after the submarine had settled on the bottom, eight men equipped with the new Davis Submerged Escape Apparatus, a rudimentary underwater breathing system, managed to leave a bow compartment. Two failed to reach the surface and another died later. More photos from the date of the accident show the subsequent memorial service at sea for the victims and the burial of two men whose bodies were recovered.

The biggest unanswered question is over the remains of the 18 crew who were unable to escape when the submarine, built by Vickers in Barrow in 1929, sank. "It's a very good question," said Schwankert. "There would almost certainly have been the remains of the 18 crew who died aboard the Poseidon entombed within it at the time of the salvage.

Schwankert, who is writing a book on his research, does not believe that HMS Poseidon was salvaged in order to learn any technological secrets that it might have contained as Chinese submarines were already based on more advanced Soviet vessels. George Malcolmson, a historian with the Royal Navy Submarine Museum in Gosport, said: "The Chinese obviously knew where the wreck was, so they wanted to recover it for military training. "As it was in their territorial waters, they clearly didn't feel the need to ask anyone to go ahead and do just that.

"I do not think they will see it as interfering in a war grave and they might say that they brought it up but claim that there were no remains in it."

 

A doctor examining the wife of a Coxswain who had been rushed to the Emergency Room, took the husband aside, and said, 'I don't like the looks of your wife at all.'   'Me neither doc,' said the Coxswain. 'But she's a great cook and really good with the kids.'

Come on Boof and Niggs, time to put the chooks to bed.............


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