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THE CHIEF STOKER'S LOG - JULY 2007

SAA New Members  - Welcome Aboard

Graeme Caesar, Partner Wendy. Palm Beach QLD 4221. Former POUWSM served in HMS/m Talent, Grampus and HMAS Ovens 1965-69

Stephen (Steve) Conlon, partner Wendy. Coffs Harbour NSW 2450. Former LSUC and CKM served in HMAS Ovens, Orion, Otway, Oxley and Onslow 1976 - 1989

Mark (Buster) Keeting,  Brackenridge QLD 4017.  Former CPOSNSM served in HMAS Orion 1987-89.

Kerry Thompson, Logan Central Qld 4114. Former POETPSM served as commissioning crew of both HMAS Onslow and Otama.

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The following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a Birthday. 

1st: Rick Ling, Mark Ormond & Henry Thompson
3rd: Doug Manners
5th: Rod Peters, Geoff Taffe, Keith Freemantle & Glen Protheroe
6th: Jim Moon
7th: Thomas Beckerling & Dennis Money
9th: Lloyd Blake
10th: Noel Lowrie, Natalie Stegenga
11th: Bob Wilson, Geoff Rose & Peter Hugonnet
13th: Michael Crellin, Michael Lynch, Neville Carlyon, Rodney Williams & Phil Solomon
15th: Steve Hussey
17th: Peter Morgan
18th: Craig Porich
19th: Neil Chaplin, Joseph Eyck & John Kendon
20th: Bob Moores& Alan Mooney
21st: Frank Owen, John Cross & Chris Rodgers
22nd: Dave Parker & Jeff Aldred
23rd: Bill Hosie, Bob Raine, Geoff Moss, W Boyles, Stuart Milburn, Joe Casserly & Paul Cleary
24th: Bob Nicholas's & Peter Nube's
25th: Paul Haywood's & Tony Smith
27th: Brian Mateer, Chris Hartcher, John Sullivan, Mick Dunne, Ray Kemp & Ted Curr
28th: Ian Henderson & Kevin Hayton
29th: Harry Anderson & Bob Hibberd
30th: Mark Vandelaar
31st: John Daker
August
1st: Don Watson
2nd: Mike Gallagher & Norm O'Neill

Why isn't my Birthday here?  I hear this often, the answer is simple, I rely on Plaxo to help me manage the 1200 people in Up Periscope's mailing list.  So if you want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next time I send an update request.

Birthday Calculator. After you've finished reading the info, click again, and see what the moon looked like the night you were born. This is neat.

Sick List
If you know of a mate that is not traveling well, let us know. Remember, a little contact during these times is better than a visit from the doctor.

John Gurr (NSW) went into hospital for key hole surgery for Asbestosis. The operation turned into open chest surgery and the prognosis is not good. Max Hardy has talked to John and Chris and although the news has left them distressed they remain strong.  John is in the phone book and I am sure that a call or card would help cheer them up. 

Allan Carter (NSW) has been diagnosed with a rare disease called Churg-Strauss Vasculitis. This diagnosis came after two years of serious lung conditions requiring constant hospitalisation.  Allan says that the jury is out on the exact cause of Churg-Strauss, the two thoughts are that it is genetic or environmental factors i.e. exposure to industrial solvents or the like.

Jonathon (Smokey) Dawson (Mackay NQ) is not travelling well, he has sustained a heart attack and stress tests indicate that by-pass surgery will be required.

I'm sure that support from fellow members of the branch will lift his spirits.

Mike Pearson (Submarines Association - Australian Branch secretary) is going into Royal Perth on July 31st for surgery and reports that he will be out of action for a while.

Carol Wilson has started treatment for stomach & liver cancer. Wife Carol said "Tell all those blokes out there go and get checked for anything." 

A LOT OF SICK PUPPIES THIS WEEK, A CALL WILL CHEER THEM UP - THAT IS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ASK FOR A LOAN!!!

ETERNAL PATROL

Harry Black (ex LSETP, HMAS Oxley Commissioning Crew) was discharged on medical grounds from HMAS Platypus, and eventually retired to Morgan, South Australia. Harry got on with life, was a dedicated family man, and enjoyed a full life until struck down with a stroke some 10 years ago. He never fully recovered, and passed away in his sleep Sunday morning, 15th July 2007. Our sincerest condolences to Harry’s wife Jan and family.

Gwen Oates-Davies
It is with much regret that I have heard that Gwen "the Goat", a long time supporter of The Log, has lost her brief fight with cancer.  Gwen, haunted many of the Forums and was a great supporter of the naval community as a whole.  She had a wicked sense of humour and let those that pissed her off know it, in a way that only she could.

Gwen, I am sure that all Members of the international submarine community are in mourning and we offer their thoughts and prayers to you and your family.


Sunday, 29th JUly 2007

Boof wants to thank all those that have sent him their regards, especially the cards from some very thoughtful people. His medication is taking effect and although he is pretending to be a CSAW and sleeping all day, he is much improved and is enjoying his walks again, but they are much shorter.

Not much for today's Log, I have too much to do, and too little time to do it. The removalists are only a week away and I still have to clear out all the junk, crate up my good stuff, as well as other commitments.  Now my car is playing up! I have been to Bunnings and loaded up with some wood to make boxes for my stuff. I was pissed off though, my car is playing up and both back tires exploded, the wheels bent and the rear shocks were driven through the floorboard. The last time I buy foreign crap, the Kingswood used to be able to handle a trip to Bunnings without falling apart.

Believe it or not, I am not one for hogging the limelight, and despite my requests that there be no farewells, the staff at the submarine school arranged a morning tea to embarrass me. The Commodore attended and presented me with a CANSG medallion and the staff presented me with a 'gold watch', a fine bottle of wine in a magnificent Jarrah wooden case and a photograph of GI and the school. The team at the submarine school is a combination of civilian and uniformed staff that have achieved the impossible, the actually work as a united team, not a them and us situation that is all to common in this type of arrangement. I wish all those working in the submarine community all the best for the future and to all those under training I want you all to know that you have made the right decision in choosing submarines. Deep down, you know it makes sense!

Friday was my last working day and although on leave for the next 4 weeks, I am now a member of the retired community. I took my first 'grumpy old man' tablet yesterday and I am sure that by time I move to Bauple they will have kicked in. I have scheduled a daily trip to the shopping centre next week at 1630 so that I can make the queues bigger for those doing after work shopping (especially at the Post office, start abusing people for being rude and running my shopping trolley into those little brats that get in my way. Retirement sounds like fun.

Its official, we now can be classified as being 'Dad's Navy'. The compulsory retiring age for permanent navy personnel is now 60 and 65 for reservists.  Maybe today's sailor can handle the watchkeeping, attack teams and turn to at 60, but I know that when I paid off at 37 it was becoming increasingly hard to handle the routine.

Around the Traps

Health & Welfare
Review of Defence policy and procedures for the management of tritium light sources
The government has released the findings of a review of Defence policy and procedures for the management of tritium light sources. The review was undertaken by Defence with support from specialists in the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA). Assistance was also provided to the review team by the Queensland Health Scientific Service (QHSS) and Comcare.

The Secretary of Defence and the Chief of the Defence Force have accepted all 21 recommendations made by the review, which will significantly tighten measures for the management of tritium light sources.

The advice from experts is that tritium light sources present an insignificant health risk to personnel, provided operators and maintainers adhere to simple precautionary measures. There is no statistically significant evidence in the scientific or medical literature to suggest a link between exposure to tritium contamination and cancer at low doses.

The review found evidence of lack of knowledge, complacency and poor work practices in Defence’s management of tritium light sources. ARPANSA advised the review that Defence’s management of its regulatory requirements under the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Act and Regulations requires significant improvement.

The strengthened governance arrangements that will be put in place for the oversight of radiation sources and facilities in Defence will ensure that the government looks after the welfare of it's people, while also meeting legislative obligations. The Tritium Review can be found at the Defence website

One morning a man came into the church on crutches. He stopped in front of the holy water, put some on both of his legs, and then threw away his crutches.
An altar boy witnessed the scene and then ran into the rectory to tell the priest what he had just seen. "Son, you have just witnessed a miracle," the priest said. "Tell me where is this man now?"
"Flat on his arse over by the holy water," said the boy.

This photo of Peter Clark and Matt Young, taken at my farewell morning tea at the submarine school, is freaky. As you may be aware, both have had serious health problems recently, and this photo may explain why they are still with us. There is no light behind Matt, is this his natural halo? Is this man challenging Chief Stokers for the title of God?

The submarine community has a new member, in spite of Defence Force Recruiting (DFR). You may recall that last year I raised the issue of DFR making it difficult for some to join or rejoin.  I am happy to hear that one of those trying to re-enlist has had a win.  He reports "After shoveling a ton of shit uphill, it's finally happened! I re-enlist on the 6th of August direct to the STSC and fingers crossed I'll be heading for an AWA course in September. It's been a mongrel of a road and I've created many waves along the way, none of which I'll back down from. Cheers again and fingers crossed we might be able to catch up before you depart." Well done mate, I know that the submarine community will be much better off with you in it.  Although I am now in retirement I will drop in to the school to say g'day before I fly out on the 8th.

In an email to Squadron PR person Ruth Carter and I LCDR Brendan McHarg RANR said "First off Ruth, as a Submariner currently serving on Thursday Island I particularly look forward to getting my copy of the Trade, so keep sending them. I note in the latest edition there's a good article on the J Class Boats, and that they stopped in Thursday Island on 29 June 1919. Now I don't know if it's related, and this is were you come in Norm, I've found a grave in the Thursday Island cemetery (photo's attached). His name is Stoker H. Haggis (definitely not a local name - sounds like a Brit to me ) he died on 13 Jan 1919 and his tomb stone reads "Submarine 7", his plot number in the cemetery is 1109. I've contacted the local council for information but there records only go back to 1940. They've put me in contact with the local Anglican Church to see what records they might hold. Though you might find this of interest, Norm let me know if you know anything about this guy." Can anyone help?

Richard Taylor of Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Secretary of the Naval Historical Collectors & Research Association has ephemera that once belonged to the late submariner Max Winterburn (died 2006). Richard would like to make contact with anyone who can give me info about him and would be grateful for any help.

Two Irish nuns have just arrived in USA by boat and one says to the other, "I hear that the people of this country actually eat dogs." "Odd, her companion replies, but if we shall live in America, we might as well do as the Americans do."  As they sit, they hear a push cart vendor yell "Get your dogs here" and they both walk towards the hot dog cart. "Two dogs, please!," says one. The vendor is very pleased to oblige, wraps both hot dogs in foil and hands them over. Excited, the nuns hurry to a bench and begin to unwrap their 'dogs'. The mother superior is first to open hers. She begins to blush and then, staring at it for a moment, leans to the other nun and whispers cautiously." What part did you get"?

Garry Coombe has waded in on the question "who was Otway's host boat"? Otway was a strange boat full of even stranger people and I am not surprised at the confusion.  Rumour has it that the boat was supposed to be exercising off New Zealand but got lost and ended up in Hawaii for RIMPAC instead. Even the CO, Peter Horobin, looks confused (or panic stricken) in this photo taken on the casing with Milly in one of his more informal rigs.

"I would like to add my two bob’s worth to the debate raging around Otway’s host boat at Pearl Harbor in 1975, as I was on the boat at the time. USS Seadragon was intended to be our host boat but certain events occurred which saw her relinquish that role. She had been in dry dock undergoing an overhaul but was taken out of the dock some days prior to our arrival and was scheduled to be alongside the submarine base when we arrived. Unfortunately she was involved in a collision of some sort on the way across the harbour and was returned to the dry dock. USS Swordfish was then designated as our host boat but they were in the middle of a work up and could not spend too much time with is. The guys from USS Bonefish and USS Sargo, which were alongside at the time, filled the void and showed us a good time. Swordfish arrived back in Pearl before we sailed and hosted us on a run to Pearl City and the Primo brewery. They referred to the Seadragon as the Shoredragon as she spent so much time alongside.

The guys who organized a lot of the entertainment at the time were Charlie Eichel and Chief “Tiger” Lyons. (He could never understand why we called him Tiger – my name is Lyons, goddammit!) Tiger arranged for a beer machine to be moved from the Laundromat on the ground floor of the BEQ to the third floor where we were billeted. The beer delivery man constantly complained about having to lug crates of beer up three flights every day! He calmed down somewhat when Porky Porzuczek met him at the top of the stairs and gave him a tip, albeit in a variety of coins from all nations he had collected from the crew.

Shorty Carroll was the UC1 and entertained everyone with his heart rending version of Old Shep – three or four times each day!

Sandy Freeleagus wrote and illustrated a terrific article for the Navy News called The Atchison, Topeka and Santa Otway with regard to the visit and all associated dramas. I seem to recall we received a letter from the president of the Santa Fe railway, one Louis Cena, who wanted to know where we got the Santa Fe locomotive from!

From there we went to Subic Bay and into the floating dock. It was April 1975 and the Vietnamese government had just capitulated. As a consequence there were thousands of Vietnamese refugees housed at the base and there was no room for us. It was a terrible situation as we had to be billeted in a hotel out in Olongapo. It was hell.  Sorry to see you go Norm. All the best for the future."  

While looking in Otway's album I found this photo of Otway's rugby team, a fine body of men that look like they could have been world beaters.  I understand that the only win they had was against a team from Canterbury Ladies College in New Zealand, although it is understood that the girls claimed that their oranges were spiked. It is interesting to note that Billy Clayton seems to have more hair today than he did in this photo, has he been to Ashley Martins?  And who is that wiping his nose on his sleeve, Mum would be proud!

Bob Emery (for SAOC West) advises that the Submariners Association of Canada West on-line Newsletter is now available for your perusal ...

Boot Hatfield responded to the photos in last week's Log entry of Gary Ross and John Rankin. "Bungy, the pic published was taken in “Kangaroo Valley”, London, when we stopped there before departing for Aus. As you can see, both Rosco and Rankin had a belly full and we – like good mates – looked after them. It was assumed that they were good close buddies so we ‘married’ them. From memory amongst the others there was George Schmidt, a stoker called Dennis, Maaarrrnnney (don’t call me Mahoney), Pee Wee Petherick, Terry Jecklin and a few others. What a stop over that was."  I think I was there, Rip Maaarrrnnney insisted on eating raw mince for dinner if my memory hasn't failed me.

Be a Lert
The current fiasco with our terrorist roundup in Queensland is a reminder that there are those out there that want to do us harm and vigilance is critical. I have done some research to see the alert level around the world. The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved" Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." Londoners have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies all but ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to a "Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was during the great fire of 1666.

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Surrender" and "Collaborate." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.

It's not only the English and French that are on a heightened level of alert. Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout loudly and excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."

The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose."

Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual, and the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels and taking their cash with them.

Unfortunately, the Dutch have been too spaced-out on drugs to realise anything has changed, so their alert level remains at "mellow"

The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

Looking for a career?
Do you have a can-do attitude, effective verbal and written communication skills, a Team player and looking for a new challenge? ASC's training manager at Training Authority - Submarines, Peter Bullock, is looking for a people previous RAN training development experience and ex Navy technicians (MT/ET) interested in a training career to join his team. Good pay and conditions are offered for those that join this group of professionals. Why not contact Peter, these positions will not last.

Warning for NSW Motorists
The M5 and the M7 are now equipped with Point to Point speed devices. Once you enter the M7 for instance you pass the etag and it beeps. At the same time a camera takes a photo of your car and records the exact time. For those who have exited the M7 they would be aware that upon exit the etag system beeps again as you leave. At the same time another camera at that point takes a photo of the car and the time. Then the computer calculates the time it has taken you to travel between the two points and calculates you speed. If you have completed the clocked journey too fast you are given a speeding ticket. At the present time the speed limit is 100K.P.H. and you have a tolerance of 102 and no more. One fraction over that speed and you are issued with a fine automatically.

Remember that school zone camera's are not speed tolerant. Anything over, even 41, is a fine. This means people will be doing 38 to avoid any differences in their speedo readings.

This is going to be a very costly experience for some drivers. It is also going to mean vehicles will be travelling at 95 in order to ensure that no ticket is issued. What a shock some drivers are going to have when they have used this roadway for a week and get a weeks tickets BOTH WAYS. Of course your license will also be recalled for three months and you know the rest.

The Pacific Highway has a set and these are recognised as large steel frames over the lanes with a speed camera and some distance up the road is another large metal frame with a speed camera.
These new point to point systems are being put onto any expressway or highway where vehicles are not able to exit between those points.

With the new legislation, fighting a speed camera fines is almost impossible. You must prove the device is faulty and if you are not a technician working on them, you have no chance of beating the fine. Take the advice and if you ignore it remember this email when you pay all those fines.

Australia new customer for Boeing P-8A submarine hunter
Australia has given preliminary approval to become a partner in Boeing's program to turn commercial 737 jets into submarine-hunting naval patrol aircraft. If the Down Under government gives it's final approval, the Australians will spend $3.5 billion to buy 20 P-8A patrol aircraft to replace the country's aging AP-3C Orion patrol aircraft. The new deal is the first substantial spinoff of Boeing's contract to build P-8As for the U.S. Navy.

Russia downplays submarine blast
Russia says one of its nuclear submarines has been damaged by a surge in air pressure, downplaying earlier reports of an explosion.  A ballast tank aboard the submarine was damaged in what a navy official described as a minor incident, according to the Interfax news agency. The incident took place as the submarine was being repaired.  No casualties were reported and radiation levels at the White Sea port of Severodvinsk are said to be normal.

According to the Reuters news agency, the Russian navy usually shuts down reactors and removes nuclear fuel during repairs to its submarines.  The management of the dockyard considers the accident as minor.  An environmental official in Norway, near the port of Severodvinsk, told Reuters there was no sign of increased radioactivity as a result of the accident.

Russia's Ekho Moskvy radio earlier reported that an explosion had damaged more than 20sq m (215sq ft) of the submarine's hull.  Russia's ageing fleet of nuclear submarine has a history of deadly accidents.  In one of the worst recent incidents, the Kursk submarine sank to the floor of the Barents Sea after two explosions on board, killing all 188 crew.

The War Against Training - Save the Whales
The American National Resources Defense Council has declared war on the U.S. Navy's request for a new permit that will give it five more years to test the SURTASS-LFA sonar system. This campaign has been going on for over five years, since the NRDC got a court order forcing the Navy to accept restrictions on the use of the system. At risk is the ability of the United States to survive in war time, and could render the U.S. Navy more vulnerable to enemy submarines.

The NRDC has also expanded its campaign offensive to include attacks on medium-frequency active sonar like the SQS-53 used on cruisers and destroyers and the SQS-56 used on frigates. The Navy, in the five years of tests, has done research on the effects of SURTASS LFA.

Locating hostile submarines sooner is more important now because of how deadly modern torpedoes have become. These torpedoes (like the Mk 48 ADCAP) use magnetic fuses, which are designed to have the torpedo detonate underneath the ship, causing the ship to break in half, and sink. Older torpedoes, used in World War I and World War II, often used impact fuses since the magnetic fuses were unreliable. The impact detonations were much more survivable since they only punched holes into the side of a ship. Anti-ship missiles like the C-802 (with a range of 120 kilometers), Harpoon (140 kilometers), Yakhont (120 kilometers), or Exocet (the missile made famous in the Falklands, with a range of 65 kilometers) could also be launched before they are detected. Those missiles could ruin any surface ship's day.

Thus, the stakes are high for sailors and marines on U.S. naval vessels. New non-nuclear submarines like the Amur from Russia, the French Scorpene, and the German Type 212 are entering service. Unlike past non-nuclear submarines, which used diesel-electric plants, these submarines also come in variants that use fuel cells or other forms of air-independent propulsion. While diesel engines can be loud enough to permit passive sonar to detect them soon enough to deal with a hostile submarine before it can fire its torpedoes, fuel cells are much quieter, and that makes active sonar a necessity. The quieter a submarine is, the closer it can get to a ship using passive sonar. An active system negates this by bouncing sound waves off of the hull of a submarine. How quiet a submarine is does not matter when an active sonar has located it.

But the capabilities do not matter if the training is not there. Just having the tools in time of war is not enough. Sailors need to train with these tools. American training tends to be very extensive and intense. Often it is intended to be tougher than the actual combat. While the Navy makes every effort to keep whales and other marine mammals from being caught up in the exercises, it is impossible to avoid that sometimes. A lack of sufficient training can be deadly. In essence, the NRDC is playing Russian roulette with the lives of sailors and Marines – in the name of saving the whales.  This article by Harold C. Hutchison appeared in the Strategy Page website, always worth a visit.

Rolls-Royce signs £1-billion submarines contract for Royal Navy
Rolls-Royce has signed a £1 billion contract with the UK's ministry of defence to maintain nuclear power plant systems on board the Royal Navy submarines' current and future fleets for the next 10 years. Rolls-Royce has designed, manufactured and maintained nuclear propulsion systems for the Royal Navy for more than 40 years.  The contract covers technical support, management of spares, the provision of plant safety cases and product development capability, for the Royal Navy's current submarine fleet that comprises 13 Swiftsure, Trafalgar and Vanguard class along with the new Astute class submarines.

Rolls-Royce is part of a team providing support to four Royal Australian Navy amphibious and afloat support ships for seven years with options for a further five.

Northrop Grumman Awarded Contract to Develop New Submarine Technology
Northrop Grumman Corporation was awarded funding by the U.S. Navy for research and development of advanced technologies for current and future submarines. Northrop Grumman's Newport News sector is the prime contractor for the work, which is valued at approximately $16.9 million. An additional $5 million funding option could also be awarded in the next 12 months.

The contract supports the assessment and development of future submarine technologies such as external torpedo launchers, electric ship systems to replace current hydraulic systems and other potential improvements. Design work may also be performed on the Large Scale Vehicle, Cutthroat (LSV2), a scaled-down submarine test vehicle used to evaluate new concepts.

House Vote Buoys EB's Prospects
Electric Boat and Northrop Grumman in Newport News, Va., are the only two companies that make military submarines, and they split the contract for Virginia-class nuclear subs evenly, each company building only half a submarine a year. The low workload has meant layoffs at Electric Boat in recent years, and officials there have bemoaned the difficulty of keeping highly specialized workers with an unsteady, cyclical work schedule.

The Navy has promised to increase its procurement contract to two subs a year in 2012, but recent congressional action may move that date closer. Inclusion of the $588 million in spending puts down some cash to start buying components for a second submarine, such as the nuclear propulsion system. Also, a report from the House defense appropriations subcommittee that wrote the bill calls for the Navy to settle a contract to start building two subs a year before 2012.

The report pointed out that the country's shipbuilders struggle because of the "low ship quantities that the Navy is ordering," so the subcommittee set aside money for more ships, including the $588 million to "provide the Navy an opportunity to accelerate the procurement of two submarines per year."

The report also praised the submarine builders, calling the Virginia-class program "one of the few Navy shipbuilding programs that appears to be on the right track."

Ottawa heads to Federal Court to appeal submarine decision
Ottawa is appealing a Federal Court decision that cleared the way for a judicial review of the federal government’s decision to award a $1.5-billion submarine maintenance contract to a West Coast firm. Halifax Shipyards who challenged the decision earlier this year to award the tender for the in-service support contract for Victoria-class submarines to Canadian Submarine Management Group of British Columbia.

But Halifax Shipyards and Fleetway Inc. — part of a rival consortium led by the British defence giant BAE (Canada) Systems Inc. — challenged the government’s decision by calling for a judicial review. The two Nova Scotia-based subcontractors stood to receive $750 million in subcontract work had their group won the bid.

£4bn carriers feature in UK Defence Budget
A major defence spending programme that will secure the Royal Navy's future was announced by the Government yesterday. Two large aircraft carriers that will become the "jewel in the crown" for the Navy will cost the taxpayer almost £4 billion. The 65,000-ton carriers, the Queen Elizabeth and the Prince of Wales, will give Britain a highly potent platform far from home.

In a unique joint venture, four sections of the carriers will each be built in Portsmouth, Rosyth in Fife, Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria and the Clyde before being floated on huge barges to be assembled.

The ships will carry 40 of the advanced F35 Joint Strike Fighters or 25 Chinook helicopters and will be crewed by 1,500 sailors.

The carriers will be built by rival companies, including BAE Systems and VT Group, forming business alliances. However, there was early controversy as the initial date on which the Queen Elizabeth was to come into service slipped by two years to 2014. The Prince of Wales will follow two years later.

The carriers will have a service life of 40 years. The announcement was made as the Government decided to bring forward the comprehensive spending review that determines the defence budget from 2008 to 2011. More money would have to be built on creating a dock big enough for the carriers.

It was also confirmed that £1 billion will continue to be spent on the replacement to the Trident nuclear deterrent. There had been a possibility of the Navy losing one of its three major bases following a review. But Faslane on Gare Loch off the Clyde, Plymouth and Portsmouth will remain, although the latter could suffer job cuts.  It also appeared that the Navy will receive all eight of the advanced anti-air Type 45 destroyers that will be vital in protecting the carriers, defence sources said.

Israel Navy submarine training contract awarded
Acorn Factor Inc. will supply a tactical training system for Dolphin submarine crews. The system is for the three Dolphin submarines that Germany built for the Israel Navy in the late 1990s. The training system will simulate the submarines’ sonar and weapons systems in tactical conditions resembling those found at sea. The company’s Naval Solutions Division has been working with the Israel Navy for many years.

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New Polo shirt range, old price $27.50  

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New Dole Test
I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay cheque, as I work on a mine site or a Kalgoorlie construction project, I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass
a urine test to get a welfare cheque because I have to pass one to earn it for them??

Please understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sit on their arse drinking piss & smoking dope. Could you imagine how much money the government would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance cheque????? 

I agree with the sentiments expressed by the writer of the above, but can you imagine the uproar from the civil libertarians for infringing civil rights!!! 

SUBCON 2007 Photos
There were lots of photos and video taken during the course of the three days. To make it convenient for everyone, the SA Branch has placed all the photos taken at the Dinner Dance by the professional photographer onto a DVD as .jpg files. They have also produced a DVD slide show which covers all events over the week-end. This can be played on any DVD player and goes for about 25 minutes.

These two DVD are presented in a souvenir case and will be posted any where in Australia. The cost is $15.00 which also covers postage and handling.

If you should want a souvenir copy of these DVDs, please send a cheque or money order made payable to the Sub Association, SA Branch and post it to  Bill Hollas, 11 Powell Drive, Gawler East, South Australia, 5118

Overdue SAA Annual Subscriptions
Our National Secretary is trying to follow up on annual subscriptions that have not been paid although they were due in April. Because the amount is only small it is easy to overlook, so if you are overdue (notices have been sent by mail and email) we ask if you could please arrange payment.

If you believe that you are current or do not intend maintaining your membership (which would be a disappointment, it is important that we grow so that submariners voice is heard by associations such as ours) could you please advise Peter so that the records can be amended.

A few payments were made by direct debit earlier this year but no reference given so we do not know who made these payments, if you are on this list and have paid by EFT let me know the details (date and amount) please.

Subscription rates continue to remain at $10 per year or $40 per five years, a second option of 25 years for $175 is also available, and it would be appreciated if you will consider one of the latter two options to help keep administration requirements to a minimum. The Association also accepts Direct Debit, please ask for details.

For those using snail mail your cheque/money order should be made payable to the Association and forwarded to: John Rana, 5 Mirror Cove Waikiki WA 6169

Submarine Community Ball - tickets selling now

  • Where: Burswood Grand Ball Room, Perth

  • When: 26 October, 1900- 0001

  • Dress: Formal (Mess Dress or Dinner Suit)

  • Ticketing: $95, available for purchase from 1 July (full details to follow). Ticket prices include a three course meal and five hours of drinks 

The small print:

  • Priority seating to be allocated to serving submariners and support staff. Seating allocated once payment has been received - strictly no IOU.

  • Groups to be arranged prior to booking, maximum 10 people per table.

  • Submariners that want to be booked in the SAA group are to contact Norm Williams.

  • 10% discount for accommodation off best price at time of booking, available at Burswood Intercontinental Hotel and the Burswood Holiday Inn. Bookings to be made on an individual basis direct to the hotel.

Ruth Carter
Corporate Communications Officer, Submarine Force Element Group
Telephone: (08) 9553 3064 Mobile: 0401 999 943 E-mail: ruth.carter@defence.gov.au

  Come on Boof, lets go and replace the shockies in the car........

 

Sunday, 22nd JUly 2007

Boof is taking it easy after being diagnosed with heart failure and is coming to grips with it.  Walks are a lot shorter and he is napping a lot.  He is eating a little more, but using his illness as an excuse for only eating the best, turns his nose up to things that he would prefer not to eat, chicken, fish and prime beef is his preferred diet.  His biggest problem is my inability to give him his medication, he is smarter than I thought and detects it in any food I try to put it in. Holding him down to give it orally is almost impossible.  Boof 6, Norm 1.

I attended a submarine community BBQ yesterday, it was good to see so many of the FEG enjoying a beer with families and friends.  CDRE Rick Shalders (CANSG), CAPT Steve Dalton (CAPTSM) and CAPT Bronco Ogrizek (DMO) led the cooking team and the sausages and hamburgers were cooked to perfection.  In these times when the submarine force, like the rest of the defence force, faces significant personnel issues, it is important that the community pulls together to meet the challenge.

Only one week left at work, I am transitioning my relief into the job and finally letting him find out all the problems, which are now his.  It will take me all of next week to pack my things from the office (I have been tactfully placed in a corner of the print room with a computer on a small desk, oh how the mighty fall). 

Despite many attempts to convince me otherwise I have decreed that there will be no farewell do, I want to leave without all the bullshit that goes with these functions.  I have spent twenty years on the Collins project, a long and often bumpy road, but it has been fulfilling in so many ways and it is going to be hard to leave.  But I cannot hide my building enthusiasm for retirement.  What 'will you do?' is often asked.  The answer: I don't know and don't really care.  There are many 'grumpy old men' out there enjoying life, I am just going to add to that number.

I have one week to pack after leaving work, my uplift is on the 8th and a skip has been ordered to take the 'junk'. It will be interesting to see how much actually goes in it. But I have promised to be ruthless and the two old bore pumps that I have had for about 7 years to refurbish will go, as will the old bird cage that I was keeping to make a hanging garden, and maybe the old rusted wheelbarrow that was going to be a 'garden feature' one day in the future.  I may get rid of all the old carpet 'off cuts' that I have kept for 'patches' and even the pots of paint 'leftovers' that have accumulated over 15 years (I opened a couple and they have turned into solid blocks of colour, there may be a use for them?) And then there is the..............

VIRUS ALERTS - WARNING
It seems to be a very busy time for internet idiots and there has been increased activity with several nasties floating around at the moment.  They are being sent in emails from reputable looking sites, do not be fooled. 

Be extremely wary of email originating from any of the following:

  • financial institutions

  • eBay

  • Paymate or Paypal

  • Microsoft

  • anyone you do not know

Also be a ware that an email advising that someone 'has sent you a postcard' should not be opened, it is also a nasty.

It is time to check that you have all of your security applications up to date and turned on.  It also pays to make sure that yours looks for all nasties, not just viruses. For a free check go to Spybot, I use it in conjunction with my anti virus software Trend Micro PC-cillin.

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Health & Welfare
There appears to be a growing discontent within the veteran community regarding the ongoing erosion of veterans’ benefits. Public Sector superannuants are the only Commonwealth beneficiaries who have their benefits indexed against the CPI and not the MTAWE (average weekly earnings).  The chart, produced by RDFWA, gives a comparison of the difference caused by using the CPI for DFRDB.

There are three important issues at the heart of the matter and these were highlighted in a recent letter to the Prime Minister written by Brigadier Neil Weekes, AM MC (Retired) which I have summarised below. 

  • Those veterans who receive the Totally and Permanently Incapacitated compensation without any other source of income are definitely not doing very well. TPI payments continue to be indexed to the CPI and not to the MTAWE. The Government’s announcement, in this year’s budget, to increase the TPI payments will be quickly eroded as 40% of the TPI will remain indexed on the CPI.

  • Veterans are concerned with the Government’s decision to continue to tax DFRB and DFRDB pensions, albeit at a reduced rate, while all other people over 60 years of age will pay no tax at all.

  • Concerns raised by those veterans who commuted part of their future DFRB/DFRDB benefits, based on their calculated last four years of average salary, and consequently had their pension payment reduced. The amount of reduction was based on the 1960 life expectancy table. Veterans who have lived beyond their estimated life expectancy, should have the original value of their pension reinstated. Unfortunately this does not occur and this has a severe impact on a veteran’s income. For example there is a veteran who commuted but has lived seven years beyond his life expectancy of 70. It has been calculated that, assuming that his commuted amount had been repaid by his 70th birthday, his pension should have been increased by $238.00 per fortnight after that. It appears that there is no legislation that provides for the reversion of a veteran’s pension to its original value after the commuted amount has been repaid. It is believed that pre-2004 Parliamentarians who had commuted their pension, had their pensions reverted to the original value once the commuted amount had been repaid. If this is the case then veterans have been severely disadvantaged.

I raised the matter with a local RSL Executive and asked what the RSL was doing and the response was quite negative.  I will be asking our President, Dave Sandquest, for his understanding of what the defence community is doing to resolve these issues.  If the recent statement by the National President of the Returned and Service League of Australia to the effect that, “most TPI recipients are doing very well” is the RSL's attitude it is a matter of concern for the veteran community.

I ran into CMDR Matt Buckley, CO of HMAS Collins this week and he said that he would be contacting the Tasmanian Branch and inviting them to visit his boat when it visits Tasmania later this year. Matt joined the RAN in January 1990 and completed his Seaman Officer training at HMAS Watson Sydney in 1994. Matt served for two years in HMAS Torrens before joining the Submarine Force in January 1996.

On completion of submarine shore training he joined HMAS Otama and following award of his Dolphins completed the Junior Submarine Warfare Officers course and Intermediate Navigation Course. Matt returned to Otama and served there for a further two years before accepting an exchange posting to Halifax, Canada in Jan 1999. During his time in Canada, Matt served in HMCS Onandaga, first as Navigator and later as the Operations Officer.

Matt returned to Australia in January 2001 and completed the Submarine Warfare Officers Course, receiving the Sword of Excellence for Warfare Skills. He posted to HMAS RANKIN in April 2002 as the Operations Officer and was part of the commissioning crew that home ported the submarine in Western Australia. Matt completed his Submarine XO training in October 2003 before rejoining HMAS Rankin, as Executive Officer. Matt completed two years in this position, with notable highlights being a six month Pacific deployment and the award of the Duke of Gloucester Cup to HMAS Rankin for best unit in the Fleet in 2004.

Matt achieved a major career milestone in July 2006, successfully completing the Submarine Command Course "Perisher" in the Netherlands and the sea phase of the USN Submarine Command Course. Matt served for a brief period as the Head of Submarine Warfare Training before joining HMAS Collins as Commanding Officer in Jun 2007.

Matt is a keen rugby enthusiast and is a great fan of the Wallabies and the Western force.

Peter Morgan reminded me that HMAS Leeuwin 24th intake 1968 is having their 40th reunion next year. He said "I know a few of the guys were in boats... Peter Adams, Dennis Mole and non other than Pig Pen Passmore.. Could you do us a favour and may be mention it in the log." Have done mate, will put it in Events calendar when I move to Queensland and have more details.

Henry Thompson who is currently building a love shack in Noosaville wrote "In prime position on the wall of the S.P.S.C. (Saint Petersburg Submariners Club) there be an "OVENS" crest I presented last year. The Lord Mayor of Moscow  also has a Aussie SM crest, either "Plats" or "Otway", I cannot remember (it was Party Time!!!"). Man who can not keep trim is NOT on the level!!"  I think Henry was having another Party Time when he sent the email, it required a considerable amount of editing, more Bundy please bartender!!!

It is always good to see a photo of two old mates reunited.  This one, taken on ANZAC Day in Victoria of Boot Hatfield and Gary Ross is one of these.  They were both commissioning crew of Ovens in the '60's and shared many happy moments together.  This type of friendship can withstand the tyranny of time and distance. A pity about the hair boys, you obviously share the same barber.

John Rana has  been asked if he knew an Oberon submariner by the name of Jim Swadling. His daughter Janet is wanting some info on her father. Do you know of him? Neither John or I can find any record of him, if you can help please contact me.

A stoker in need of female company went into a bar approached a pretty young lass sitting by herself and asked "May I buy you a cocktail?".  She looked at the stoker and replied "No thank you, I would love to but alcohol is bad for my legs." He replied "Sorry to hear that. Do they swell?" She replied, "No, they spread."

I have received many photos of the 'submarine race' and took no notice of it until I received an email from Tony Vine saying that he had received the following from a SBLT Gordon Vine "This was just posted in the mil history folder... "On this day in 1972 an RAN 'O-boat' took on a Soviet Foxtrot class submarine in a non-sanctioned race in the Indian Ocean." After laughing at the photo...I thought to myself...are there any submariners out there who may know about this and whether it is an actual event or just another myth....."

I advised Tony that race was real but stewards declared that the race was rigged, something about a battery in the saddle. I also reminded him that although Gordon is family and there is still a small sentimental link there, he must remember that Gordon is only a skimmer, and they will believe anything.  All email from skimmers should be treated as a virus and deleted without opening.  Tony responded "mmm. But he is an Engineer. Actually it was the long haired environmentalist hippie son that sent it to us, not the one one that digs holes in Western Australia as a Geologist, or the Baby MEO on HMAS Parramatta.. I'm sure however all three could get sucked in."

Two drought affected cattle drovers were standing in an Outback bar sinking a XXXX. "What are ya up to, mate?" asked one. "Ahh, I'm takin' a mob of 6000 from Goondiwindi to Gympie." replied the other. "Oh yeah ... and what route are you takin'?" asked the first, to which the other replied. "Ah, prob'ly the Missus ... after all, she stuck by me durin' the drought.

Paul Dann has pointed me to a snippet of film showing HMAS Orion being launched at Greenock. The Champagne bottle bounced off on the first attempt (bad luck?) then after it was done correctly shows Orion sliding down the dock and  running smoothly into the drink. I was very impressed with the dress and hat worn by the lady with the bottle, very Carnaby Street.

Pommie visitor Dave 'Pedlar' Palmer responded to my comments on the baths in Dolphin II with "When you have finished having a go at the Poms bathing habits or lack of, I was in Terror when Oxley arrived for her first deployment. Some of the back afties still had not had a shower three days after they got alongside, (too busy filling up on Tiger). We caused chaos in the transit lounge at Singers airport when we went to see Smudge Smithies mum and daughter who were on their way to the UK. The security guy could not believe how many relations were in Singers at that time (you had to be a relative to get in the transit area).  All the best for your retirement and keep up the good work."  I had to point out to Dave that Oxleys' crew at that time was mainly Poms, there were a lot of them on her and some say she should have flown the RN White Ensign.

Defence has a new website, a gaming portal for games created by the Australian Defence Force. This is more than your average games site, on Defence Jobs Games you can keep track of all your gaming experience, battle online with others and make your way up the ladder with achievements and player ranks!  The site invites you to register your details and sign up for a gamer profile to create your own custom avatar and build your online profile! I wonder if the same guys that developed the games were teaching greenies at Cerberus?

Ramon Lawrence is off to the USA on Friday, he is the guest instructor to the US National Iaido seminar and Championships (swords). He says "Should be a good trip - 5 days in LA and 5 at the champs in Omaha, Nebraska."

One night, after Bob had retired for the night, his wife became aware that he was touching her in a most unusual manner. He started by running his hand across her shoulders and the small of her back. He ran his hand over her breasts, touching them very lightly. Then, he proceeded to run his hand gently down her side, sliding his hand over her stomach, and then down the other side to a point below her waist. He continued on, gently feeling her hips, first one side and the other. His hand ran further down the outside of her thighs. His gentle probing then started up the inside of her left thigh, stopped and the returned to do the same to her right thigh.

By this time the woman was becoming aroused and she squirmed a little to better position herself. The man stopped abruptly and rolled over to his side of the bed. "Why are you stopping darling?" she whispered.

He whispered back, "I found the remote."


NSW member Gerald Degen writes "I see you got informed by Peter Smith regarding the Dutch Submariners Badge "Flippers". Since becoming also a member of their Society, I have found out quite a few interesting things.  First of all in December 1906 the Dutch Royal Navy launched their first Submarine "O 1", which was then on 12/12/1906 formally accepted by their newly formed Submarine branch.

On the 12th December 2007 they celebrated their Centenary Anniversary, which will last for one year. Up to date they have had a total of 63 Submarines in Service, of which during war time 7 boots were lost and 2 others have never been found. Also 53 of this 63 total were build in the Netherlands, inclusive the present four of the latest Walrus class. They are Diesel-Electrics, quite in demand because they are better operational in shallow waters than the Nuclear boats, owned by the Americans, English and French Navies.

The Dutch Submarine Service has currently approx 400 males and females serving, but only MALE crews are serving on board. Although every Submarine Service has had a kind of mystique about it, it looks like the Dutch one will lose its independence, as the Netherlands are uniting all their forces into one pro-operational Strike Unit.

Now the Submariner Association has a total of 1168 present serving and Ex-Submariners on their books and they will celebrate their 30th Anniversary on the 2nd December 2007."

Who needs friends when you have enemies like Boot Hatfield who sent the following photos taken at a wedding of one of his 'mates' standing by Ovens in Scotland. I don't think these are in the family photo album. Sorry Rossco...............

Shipbuilder Demands Payment for Submarine From Greek State
Hellenic Shipyards SA, a unit of ThyssenKrupp AG, demanded payment for a submarine ordered by the Greek government and said the delay threatened its future.  The amount owed exceeds four years of salaries for the unit's 1,500 employees, the Skaramangas, Greece-based company said today in an e-mailed statement, without giving a figure. The Greek government ``expressed complaints'' about the type 214 submarine, built in Kiel, Germany, and refused to accept delivery of it, the company said.  The docks' viability is under serious threat, the company will take any necessary action to ensure the dues are paid.''

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is due in Athens tomorrow. She may pressure the Greek government to pay as much as 3 billion euros ($4.1 billion) outstanding on submarine and tank orders, Spiegel magazine reported earlier this month.

Your not going anywhere till you take your tablets!

Sunday, 15th JUly 2007

Boof got crook yesterday and a visit to the vet revealed that he had heart failure.  This has upset me although I have been expecting the worse for a while, he is 15, a great innings for a great mate.  He hates the vet, he doesn't warm the glass thermometer before inserting it, and it is normally a fight to get him to behave, but this time he did not resist. He is on medication and a little better this morning, but refused to go for a walk. 

Settlement on the house is 9th August, time is running out fast, still got to sort out the 'good stuff' that has accumulated over the last 15 years. This house has been the longest that I have ever lived in, 15 years, and it is difficult to discard so many years of collected 'rubbish'. Standby Queensland, here I come. 

The weather has been great and this is giving me the incentive to do some more in the garden so I had better get on with this update.

I managed to complete the conversion of Peter Smith's latest In Depth last night and the July issue is now online (on both sites).

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Health & Welfare
Max Hardy has taken over from Kev Hayton and National H&W Coordinator (thanks for a job well done Kev) and intends making some changes.

Max reports "As the National Health and Welfare coordinator the first thing I would like to change is the title. The health and wellbeing of all submariners and their families’ is of the utmost importance to all of us. Kevin has been instrumental in creating an atmosphere of caring for each other and bringing to our attention important matters with regard to Health issues. Any injury, disease, or death caused by defence service may well be compensable under an employees or veterans compensation Act.

It is my intention to ensure as far as possible, any Submariner with a compensation entitlement, receives that compensation. To do this on a national Basis I require the assistance of a dedicated Pension and welfare officer from each state and territory. You may recall I made a statement to that effect at the SAA AGM. I am seeking the assistance of all state and territory branch presidents to satisfy that requirement by nominating a representative. This group will be responsible to ensure their state and or territory is aware of entitlements, what to do about it, and who their Pension and Welfare representative is.

ALZHEIMER'S OR PARKINSON'S ............. Which one would you rather have?

PARKINSON'S of course!  Better to spill half your drink than forget where the hell you put it!!!!

Northern Queensland Branch AGM
A very successful meeting was held last weekend at the residence of Shorty and Robyn Needham in Kirwan, Townsville. Mal was a little late turning up due to problems getting his outfit out of the cleaners.

This was the first AGM since formation of the branch. Our guest speaker prior to the meeting was Peter Martin, from the Townsville Naval Association, who gave an enlightening talk on the role of the Welfare Officer.

As all positions on the Executive were declared vacant, Peter was kind enough to take the chair, until the position of President was once again filled. The branch showed confidence in the incumbent President, Secretary and Treasurer, by re-electing Mal Bridge, Garth Schmidt & Craig Cope to those respective positions.

Al & Rowena Coyote, Craig, Sue, Rob, Snow, Glenda & the Marauder

Other members elected to the committee were: Snow Schleicher, Coyote Wyatt, John Morris and Cole Klease. Terry (Coyote) Wyatt volunteered and was duly appointed as Welfare representative for the branch (Max's little helper in the far north).

Congratulations to all appointees. It is up to the executive and committee now to work hard encourage as many ex-submariners as possible to come along and participate in our meetings.

Many thanks go to Shorty and Robyn for throwing their home open for the meeting and being excellent hosts.

A framed sketch of the 50th anniversary of the SETT was auctioned and the successful bidder was Snow Schleicher. This auction raised handy funds for the branch.

Peter Smith received the following letter and passed it on for action. "My name is Julie Mudry and my late husband was Leading Seaman Cook Submariner Eugene (Gene) Mudry. Some time ago I visited a website belonging to the Submariners and found a roll of remembrance which had Gene listed (although he had been demoted to ABCK), however the page does not seem to be available now.  Would you please advise if and where the list is now located. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated as I have two sons, two step-sons, a step-daughter and five step-grandchildren who are interested in their dad's and granddad's history. Also, is there any way you know of that I might contact Submariners who would be willing to share anecdotes or photos of Gene via email to me. These too, would be much appreciated."  The Eternal Patrol page that Judy was seeking is still online, but is a casualty of the "breaking up" of the "SAA" and "Normy" sites.  One day sanity may prevail and they will become one again.  If anyone can help Judy would they please contact me for her details.

An Irish daughter had not been home for over 5 years. Upon her return, her father greeted her with, “Where have ye been all this time?” “Why did ye not write to us, not even a line? Why didn't ye call? Can ye not understand what ye put yer old mum thru?”

The girl, crying, replied, "Sniff, sniff....dad....I became a prostitute...."

"Ye what!!? Out of here, ye shameless harlot! Sinner! You're a disgrace to this family."

"OK, dad-- as ye wish. I just came back to give mum this luxurious fur coat, A Title Deed to a ten bedroom mansion plus a savings certificate.  "For me little brother, this gold Rolex and for ye daddy, the sparkling new Mercedes limited edition convertible that's parked outside plus a membership to the country club…plus and an invitation for ye all to spend New Years' Eve on board my new yacht in the Riviera, and........."

Now what was it ye said ye had become?" says dad.

Girl, crying again, "Sniff, sniff....a prostitute dad! Sniff, sniff.

"Oh! Be Jesus! Ye scared me half to death, girl! I thought ye said a Protestant. Come here and give yer old man a hug."

Garry 'Rossco' Ross wrote "Norm, remember all them wasted hours we spent playing poker in the after mess on the way home on the Ovens. Well it has finally started paid dividends. About 18 months ago my wife and I joined the latest craze going around Sydney, playing 'TEXAS HOLD EM ' poker. We have won about a dozen tournaments between us since we started, winning small prizes and a bit of cash. Last Wednesday I was in a tournament in the Penrith area and won a new Holden Barina. I put a lot of this all down to those educational hours we spent in the after mess. Seriously though its is a great social activity (if you are interested in cards) as we have made heaps of new friends and there is a lot of money being put into it at the moment."  Congratulations Rosco, the win does not surprise me at all, you were a much better 'cheat' than I and it took me years to recover financially from those days.  

Boot Hatfield had better be careful after making comments on Peter Bullock relieving me as ASC's Training Manager at the Submarine School. Peter is VERY big and does not tolerate fools lightly. Boot wrote "Bung, your replacement shouldn't have TOO many worries.:

  • Someone who can, at least, read the numbers on a mobile phone.

  • Is able to HEAR a mobile phone (or any noise) from 1 metre.

  • Can swim (or at least dog-paddle).

  • Is able to write in a decipherable code - at least understandable by West Australians.

  • Doesn't forget to tie up his rhododenrons so as not to fall into the pool.

I wonder if you got many applicants, or wonder at the quality of the one who was successful."

Terry Wyatt was more respectful and said "Congratulations to your relief. Found this photo of him in Orion's Engine Room (1978). We called him Storm Boy. L-R Peter Bullock, Terry Wyatt, Roy Collins, Bobby Ross, Robert Nichol and Mick Lynch. The photo was taken by Noel Robinson."

Fred Lawrence sent the following warning. "I'm not usually one for posting warnings about potential scams but I had a close call on Sunday. I walked into Bunning's at lunchtime and some old guy dressed in a red shirt with a green apron on asked me if I wanted decking. Fortunately, I got the first punch in and sorted him out. Beware, those less suspecting might not be so lucky." I was luckier, it was a sheila that tried it on with me, she didn't stand a chance!!!

K Class submarines Blog
Kieran O'Regan pointed me to an interesting blog on the SA's Barrow website, well worth a look. K Class submarines were the most bizarre and ill-fated submarines of the First World War period. These fascinating vessels were revolutionary in design. They were made for the Royal Navy, for a specific tactical objective: to have submarines fast enough on the surface to accompany the British battle fleet in action. The intent was that they could be deployed during battle as a sort of 'mobile minefield' and so wreak havoc on the German fleet. The result was the K-class submarine.

To obtain this goal, they were propelled by steam - with boilers and funnels! At the time, they were not only the largest submarines in the world, but also the fastest, attaining speeds of 24 knots. They were in many ways ahead of their time.

But was the K Class of World War I submarine also jinxed. From their beginning in the Spring of 1915, the K Class submarines were beset with one disaster and tragic accident after another. K became to stand for 'Killer', but not of the enemy, but of their own officers and crew.

As you look and read through the following web pages, think about these questions:

  • Why were the K submarines jinxed?

  • Why did they suffer one disastrous accident after another?

  • What happened to the submarine K13?

  • Why is this British submarine remembered, with a large memorial built in Carlingford, Australia?

  • Why did these submarines have no impact on the enemy, and yet cause the death of over three hundred of their own officers and crew?

A new Army Captain was assigned to an outfit in a remote post in the Afghanistan desert. During his first inspection of the outfit, he notices a camel hitched up behind the mess tent. He asks the Sergeant why the camel is kept there.

The nervous sergeant said, "Well sir, as you know there are 250 men here on the post and no women. And sir, sometimes the men have "urges" That's why we have the camel"


The Captain says, "I can't say that I condone this, but I understand about "urges" so the camel can stay." About a month later, the Captain starts having his own "urges". Crazy with passion, he asks the Sergeant to bring the camel to his tent.

Putting a ladder behind the camel, the Captain stands on the ladder, pulls his pants down and has wild, insane sex with the camel. When he's done he asks the Sergeant "Is that how the men do it?"

"No not really sir," "They usually just ride the camel into town where the girls are."

John Wood-cowling of Corby UK writes "Liked the black cat story, our British version was, if I had a black cat he would have a blacker bastard! The story I liked if it's true! An Australian submariner walked into the British stoker's mess in HMS Dolphin Gosport England. The Leading Hand said 'hello like a beer', the Aussie replied "sure would my throats as dry as a Pommies towel"!!!! Of course it's true mate.  This reminded me of the time I moved from Dolphin 2 to the Blockhouse.  The Aussies in my class (Bob Marsland, Ray Clarke, Roy Cross and a few others) took to the large bathes with gay abandon, but this created a problem.  The baths, which had been largely unused for many years, created additional work for Duty Watch, they had to be cleaned.  Not happy Jan!

The tale of the dolphins continues. Dear Peter (Smith),my name is Gerald Degen, an Ex Dutch Submariner, living in Tura Beach about 5 mins away from my mate David Luck and have been a member of SAA since 1993. Late last year I got informed that there existed also a Dutch Submariners' Association and was invited to join, which I did and have received so far 2 very interesting quarterly periodicals. Unfortunately I have spend some time in Sickbay and did not follow all the "goings on" on the Website. When I did I noticed you had made a comment regarding the Submariners Dolphins badge. For your information I wish to state that approval to design the Dutch Submarine badge was given on the 24th February 1965 and the first Badge awarded was to the Commandant of the Submarine Service on the 23rd April 1965. I hope this is of interest to you." 

Peter responded to Gerald. "Many thanks for the information, it appears the RAN and the Dutch Navy where both looking at the idea of the submarine badge for qualified submariners at the same time. I'm not exactly sure when the idea for the RAN came up, it was between 1964/65. I know it was 1965 before the badge was presented to the RAN Board for approval and it was 25 July 1966 when it was announced that the badge had been accepted, I assume it would have been sent to HRH ER II for her approval prior to the announcement. To get back to Jim's question "was the RAN and the Dutch Navy the only two navies to wear dolphins" (mammals) was correct and it appears that the Dutch beat us by perhaps a few months. All the others are fish or sharks or herald style badges until Sweden and the Columbian Navy change there's to bottle nose dolphins within the last few years.

WA member Eric Jones wrote "Hi guys, I think I've been "black catted" here. Further down the chain is an e-mail from an e-bayer who I thought I may have known from my time in the mob. For the record, my grandfather also commenced his illustrious naval career in WW1, though his hands were probably a little more in need of a manicure than Rear Admiral George Dunbar Moore's ('Pony' or 'Twiggy' to his mates) by the end of WW11. Old Grandpop Jones also served in both wars and proudly reached the rank of kellick STKR!"

In the original email Eric asked "Hi Russell, I've bid on the Blue and Grey Tenners. They look fantastic. Just a quick personal question...hope you don't mind. You weren't in the Navy were you? I only ask because I served with a Russell H from Tasmania when I worked in Navy Recruiting. Cheers. Eric." Russell responded "I was never in the Navy, but my Grandfather was Rear Admiral George Dunbar Moore. Top brass around the end of WW11, Started his Navel career in WW1. look him up if you are interested, I am very proud of his life.

Regular visitor to the Log, Bob Head, explains why he, like so many other poms,  has moved to Cyprus to live. "We have a huge council house in our street. The extended family is run by a grumpy old woman with a pack of fierce dogs. Her car isn't taxed or insured, and doesn't even have a number plate, but the police still do not do anything. Her bad tempered old man is famous for upsetting foreigners with racist comments. A shopkeeper blames him for ordering the murder of his son's wife but nothing has been proved yet. All their kids have broken marriages except the youngest, who everyone thought was gay. Two grandsons are meant to be in the Army but are always seen out in nightclubs. The family's odd antics are always in the papers. They are out of control. Who'd live near Windsor Castle? he asked?"

Doug Craig (AKA Flash) commented on previous article on HMS Andrew. "I was very interested to read Brian Vaughton’s article about S/M Andrew and the last gun action surface. I was the killick greenie on Andrew from final refit to when she went to the knacker’s yard. POLTO Mick Davenport and I put the shorting straps to her and then went to the “Avondale” to stop shaking and get pissed.  I am writing because I was unable to open the pictures in the article and I would be more than grateful if you would pass this message on to Brian Vaughton so I can ask him if he would send copies of the 12 pictures to me. I’ve been to a couple of the reunions and there are not too many pix of Andrew doing the business. (My ex got all mine and probably ate them). By the way – I also served on HMS/M Olympus (and Cachalot) when she had RAN Part 3s embarked. The Jimmy was one of yours as well (Smith) but I also remember a killick stoker called “Tex” Rutter – always wore white socks (we never did find out where he kept them)." 

Rear-Admiral Eugene Fluckey
Rear-Admiral Eugene Fluckey, who has died aged 93, was one of the most highly decorated American submariners of the Second World War.

On January 25 1945 Fluckey was commanding the Gato-class submarine Barb when, in a feat of brilliant deduction and bold tracking, he located a concentration of more than 30 Japanese ships in the lower reaches of Nankuan Chiang, 250 miles south of Shanghai. Ordering "Battle stations!" he penetrated the heavy enemy screen and, riding in only five fathoms of water, launched his forward torpedoes at a range of 3,000 yards.

Quickly bringing his boat's stern tubes to bear, he fired four more, which obtained eight hits on six of the main targets, and blew up a large ammunition ship, causing further damage to the enemy. Fluckey then cleared the area by running at full speed through the uncharted, mined and rock-obstructed waters to safety. Earlier in the same patrol he had sunk a large enemy ammunition ship during a running two-hour night battle and, as he withdrew to base on January 29, sank another large Japanese freighter.

Fluckey took command of Barb in April 1944, when on five patrols his initiative and aggression cost the enemy dear. On his first war patrol off northern Japan he sank five ships by torpedo and, in a series of surface gun duels, destroyed some 20 small vessels. During his next patrol, between the Philippines and China, he sank three more Japanese ships, including the 20,000-ton escort carrier Unyo and an 11,000-ton Japanese tanker with the same salvo.

Between October 1944 and February 1945 Fluckey operated in the East China Sea and in the summer Barb became the first American submarine to be armed with rockets, which were used to strike at a Japanese air station and several factories.

On July 23 Fluckey raised his own commando of eight volunteers, who paddled on to Sakhalin Island under cover of night and planted explosive charges on railway lines 400 yards inland. Fluckey considered giving the crewmen a terse Hollywood-style send-off, but all he could think of was: "Boys, if you get stuck, head for Siberia, 130 miles north. Follow the mountain ranges. Good luck." As they paddled back to Barb, the wreckage of a 16-car train flew 200ft into the air.

Fluckey was known to flout the US Navy's prohibition on alcohol by stashing cases of beer in the officers' shower and whenever Barb sank a ship everyone on board celebrated with a cold drink. His official score was 95,360 tons of enemy shipping, though he reckoned this should have been 145,000 tons.

He was awarded the Medal of Honour, four Navy Crosses, the Distinguished Service Medal and the Legion of Merit. Barb received four Presidential unit citations and several Navy unit commendations. But Fluckey often said that his greatest achievement was that no one under his command ever received another well-known medal: the Purple Heart for being wounded in action. "He was absolutely confident and absolutely fearless, but fearless with good judgment," said a contemporary. "He brought his ship and his people home."

Eugene Bennett Fluckey was born in Washington, DC, on October 5 1913 and graduated from the US Naval Academy at Annapolis in 1935.

His first appointments were to the battleship Nevada and the destroyer McCormick before he attended the submarine school at Groton, Connecticut.

His first submarine was S-42, and in 1941-42 he served in the 2,000-ton fleet submarine Bonita on patrols off Panama.

In late 1945 Fluckey was summoned to Washington where he worked briefly in the Office of the Navy Secretary, James Forrestal, and in the War Plans Division before becoming personal aide to the Chief of Naval Operations, Fleet Admiral Chester Nimitz.

He commanded the modernised submarine Halfbeak before joining the staff of the Commander, Submarine Force, Atlantic Fleet, and then was US naval attaché in Lisbon. A series of prominent command and staff jobs eventually led Fluckey to appointment as Commander Submarine Force, Pacific, in 1964.

His last appointments were as Director of Naval Intelligence, and chief of the Military Assistance Advisory Group, Portugal. After retiring in 1972, Fluckey, with his second wife, ran a Portuguese orphanage for some years. He also treated the ageing veterans of Barb to cruises in Alaska and on the Mississippi river. His wartime memoir Thunder Below! (1992) won the Samuel Eliot Morison prize for naval history.

Eugene Fluckey died on June 28. His first wife Marjorie, whom he married in 1937, predeceased him in 1979; he is survived by his second wife Margaret, along with a daughter of his first marriage.

A C-130 was lumbering along when a cocky F-16 flashed by. The jet jockey decided to show off.  The fighter jock told the C-130 pilot, "watch this!" and promptly went into a barrel roll followed by a steep climb. He then finished with a sonic boom as he broke the sound barrier. The F-16 pilot asked the C-130 pilot what he thought of that?  The C-130 pilot said, "That was impressive, but watch this!"

The C-130 droned along for about 5 minutes and then the C-130 pilot came back on and said "What did you think of that?" Puzzled, the F-1 6 pilot asked, "What the hell did you do?"

The C-130 pilot chuckled. "I stood up, stretched my legs, went to the back, took a pee, then got a cup of coffee and a cinnamon bun."

When you are young and foolish - speed and flashy may be a good thing.  When you get older and smarter - comfort and dull is not so bad!!

See you all again next week. Come on Boof, time for our medication......
 

Sunday, 8th JUly 2007

Sod's law has set in, the house has been sold and now the problems arrive, only a week before final contract signature.  Last week the wind blew the lattice fence holding the Bougainvillea down, all of it landing in the pool.  Then the gas hot water system to the bathroom packed it in and getting a new one installed is becoming a problem.  And I still have a trailer load of sand left over from the sewage connection sitting in the carport, finding it hard to find a home for it, I have already 'topped up' every garden bed and hole I can find.

I have replaced my mobile phone, the last one did not like its swim in the pool last weekend, and have a dilemma, no 'ring' tone only bloody music.  I do not think I have managed to answer a call yet as I do not recognise it till too late.  And the bloody numbers are that small I need to have my glasses on to read them. bloody technology.

Interviews for my position at the Submarine School have been completed and I am sure that my relief, Peter Bullock, will be a good replacement.  I know the loyalty that the staff have shown me over the years will be shown to Peter.  I am leaving a great team and I am confident that the challenges that lay ahead for a new management team will be met head on. Congratulations Peter.

Boof has convinced me that we will not be driving the 4605 KM to Bauple, he has heard that there are very few trees on the Nullabor.  He also needs a few more frequent flyer points.  This is a bit disappointing, I have had so many offers to 'drop in' on the way through.

Things are pretty quiet on the submarine front, winter slows everything down it seems, so only a small Log update today.  Even the overseas news items have gone quiet.

Cancer has struck again and the thoughts and prayers of the submarine community go out to Carol and Bob Wilson as they start the fight that no-one should have to fight.

Around the Traps

Rod Peters writes "G'day Norm. Just thought I would let you and everyone else know that today (5th) is the start of the rest of my life. Today I turn the big 60 an d it is also my first day of retirement, Pat and I intend to do some of the things we have always wanted to do before we get to old to enjoy them we will be traveling around this country a bit then in May June next year we intend to travel over seas for a while.I hope we are able to catch up with some of the many friends we made while in the Squadron. Hope to you you around the traps." Enjoy your retirement mate, although I have heard many say they wont know the difference?

Good news from SSG-75 (HMAS Waller), SMNEWASM Natalie Dawes completed her SMSQ board last month. CMDR Sampson presented her with her Dolphins and word has it that she hasn't stopped smiling since. SMN Dawes is the first submariner to qualify in Waller since completing the FCD and is a welcome addition to the Squadron. I know that many old farts out there still don't think females in submarines is a good idea, but you have to admit they are better looking than most of the guys we have served with!!!

Many articles have been written about Google Earth being used for spying and nefarious activities such as to plan insurgent attacks in Iraq.  Recent pictures of China’s new nuclear submarine which is visible on Google Earth once again demonstrates the usefulness of this web site. The photo is of what is apparently the new Type 094 Jin-class SSBN at the Xiaopingdao base near Dalian. Of course, you’re not going to glean detailed info from this photo, but it’s still interesting. Another example is of a Korean air base and indeed. One of more interest to me is that of HMAS Stirling on Garden Island.  This is a recent photo as it shows some of the recent additions, obviously taken at a weekend as the car parks are empty.

Dave Luck notes the nice photo in the log of Onslow commissioning crew at the SUBCON dinner dance and said it's a pity that all of the commissioning crew present at the do weren't included in the photo.  Maybe a good idea for next year to get similar photos.

Fred Lawrence wrote "It was good to see Graeme Caesar surface after such a long time. Just a correction though - he was a POUW , not UC and was our Scratcher when we commissioned Ovens.  On other matters - For my birthday I was given the recently advertised book by RN submariner Chas Cooke (Why Should Britain Tremble - A Submariner's Tale). An interesting dit, covering his naval career, spanning the years from about 1974 to 1987. Service in the aircraft carrier HMAS ARK ROYAL as a Junior Electrician ( Ordnance Electrical Mechanic), volunteering for boats, initially in SSNs (HMS/m Courageous), then to the Bomber, HMS/m Resolution, then finally with the demise of the UW branch, cross training to become a TI and service in O boats, serving in Onslaught and Oberon.

For those of us who spent time in UK the descriptions of HMS Dolphin and Faslane are very familiar. RN treatment of its married sailors and the provision of married quarters does not seem to have improved too much. Manpower planning is pretty non existent - sadists still do the drafting.

His descriptions of his and other sailors antics are reminiscent of many which have surfaced from the fog of my memory bank. It's a humorous