SAA
New Members - Welcome Aboard
Welcome Aboard
The following new members have signed on with the SAA in
June;
Kevin 'Jack' Warner, ex POETPSM.
John 'Oby' O'Beirne, ex POCKSM.
LCDR Stuart Lumsden RAN (Rtd).
Wayne 'Bill' Whelan ex WOETSSM.
Ian Haw, ex POUCSM.
David Beauchamp, ex LSETCSM.
Phillip 'Max' Walker, ex LSROSM.
The following new members have signed on with the SAA in
July;
Keith Rippon, ex LSETWM. Camperdown NSW 1450.
Served on HMAS Otama, HMAS Ovens, HMAS Orion, HMAS Onslow and
HMAS Oxley.
LCDR Graham French RAN (Rtd). Partner Sandra, Woronora
NSW 2231. Served on HMAS HMAS Otway, HMS Osiris, HMAS
Ovens, HMAS Otama and HMAS Onslow.
George McEvoy, ex CPORSSM. Arana Hills Qld 4054.
Served on HMAS Otama, HMAS Ovens, HMAS Orion, HMAS Onslow and
HMAS Oxley.
Anatol Dangel, ex ABCKSM. Partner Margaret, Lochinar NSW
2321. Served on HMS Astute.
Greg Doodson, ex LSMTP3SM. Partner Sherree Kyogle, NSW 2474. Served on HMAS Onslow,
HMAS Orion, HMAS Ovens
LCDR Riano Gargiulo RAN (Rtd). Partner Helen, Garran ACT
2605. Served on HMAS Otama, HMAS Orion, HMAS Onslow and
HMAS Oxley.
Join the SAA. Remember, the more Members the more the policy
makers in Canberra listen, there is strength in numbers. Details
on SAA Membership are provided on the
Application Form.
Birthdays
The
following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a
Birthday.
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Cancer
June 21st - July 21st You see yourself
as a caring and sharing person that is sympathetic and
understanding and likes to get involved with other
peoples problems. In fact, most people just see
you as nosey! You always keep putting things off,
this is the reason that you will always be on welfare
and not worth a turd. Prisons are full of you
lot!
Leo
July 22nd - August 22nd You
consider yourself a born leader but others think that
you are a born idiot. Like most Leo's, you are vain and
cannot tolerate honest criticism. Your arrogance
is disgusting.
Leo's enjoy masturbation more than sex.
Why isn't
my Birthday here? I hear this often, the answer is
simple, I either don't like you or I rely on Plaxo to
help me manage the almost 1300 people in Up Periscope's
mailing list and you are not using it. So if you
want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next
time I send an update request. |
July
Birthdays
1st: Bob Head, Mark Ormond, Henry Thompson, Bill Hosie & Rick Ling
3rd: Doug Manners
4th: Graham White & George Hunt
5th: Rod Peters, Geoff Taffe, Glen Protheroe & Keith Freemantle
6th: Bryce Jackson
7th: Thomas Beckerling, Dennis Money, Geoff Holmes & Jim Moon
8th: Angad Singh & Stephen Conlon
9th: Lloyd Blake
10th: Noel Lowrie
11th: Peter Hugonett & Geof Rose
13th: Rodney Williams, Phil Solomon, Neville Carlyon, Mick Lynch &
Michael Crellin
15th: Steve Hussey
17th: Peter Morgan & Rod Curtis
18th: Craig Porich & Ian Beadle
19th: Neil Chaplin, Joe Eyck & John Kendon 20th: Alan Mooney & Bob
Moores
21st: John Cross, Frank Owen & Chris Rodgers
22nd: Allen Aldred & Dave Parker
23rd: Geoff Moss, Bob Raines, Stuart Milburn, Warren Boyles, Joe
Casserly & Paul Cleary
24th: Peter Nube & Bob Nicholas
25th: Anthony P Smith & Jeremy Dirrmann
27th: Brian Mateer, Chris Hartcher, John Sullivan, Mick Dunne, Ray J
Kemp, Ted Curr & Franky Hayes
28th: Kevin Hayton &
Ian Henderson
29th Harry Anderson
30th: Mark Vandelaar & Dean Barr
31st: John Dakers
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see what the moon looked like the night you were born.

Sick Bay There are many of our mates
that have been, or are, suffering from a range of medical problems and I
know that the thoughts of the submarine community go out to them and
their families during these trying times.
Bob Hibberd has
moved to the UK, suffering with a brain tumor. Jim Redwood
has been very ill from the effects of a subdural hematoma and has
been moved to the RSL Nursing Home in Yass (a long way from his home
in Cootamundra). Terry
Lewis is in permanent care for dementia in Busselton. Bob
Bobilak
has been diagnosed with Asbestosis. For any of his mates that are
passing through or would like to send a card here is the address: Urana Hotel, Main Street Urana NSW 2645. Graeme
Porzucek has
Asbestosis. Malcolm 'Jock' Campbell with Dementia and Alzheimer's - Jock is in a
UK nursing home. Claude (Rob)
Roberts has been diagnosed with prostrate and bone cancer and is now resting quite comfortably in his room at the
Blue Haven Lodge, his room number is 31, and phone is 0747766135.I am
sure that he would like a buzz from all that know him. Mike ‘Jelly’
Barnes has prostate cancer and went under the knife early
April. Contact Jelly on 0418 666 330. Eric Armstrong has cancer and DVT and has had his big toe on the right foot amputated. Merv
Kidd has been diagnosed
with Asbestosis. His number is: 02 4358 8646.
Ray Sylvester has Emphysema
and recently caught a lung infection. Ray can be contacted on (02)
4342 7097.

Max Bryant has advised me that he spoke with Victorian member
Ken 'Biff' Mills on his
mobile from hospital. Max said "It was amazing you
wouldn't believe he had just undergone surgery for a brain tumour. He
sounded fine, the procedure went well they got it all, now he has to
endure 8 -12 weeks chemo. Apparently the surgeon said if you have to
have tumour this was the one to have, anyway all sounds good."

Eternal Patrol - LCDR D R WILSON DSC RANVR (Rtd)
1940-1946
It is with great sadness I have to report that
Barry Nobes has advised me of the death of Don Wilson on the 22nd of
July at Mona Vale. He was 92, probably the oldest member of the
Submarines Association and certainly its most senior and best-liked.
He
served in HM/SMs P31, Untiring and Commanded Voracious. He was the last
of the three RAN officers who commanded submarines in WWII.
There
will be a Memorial Service at St Michael and All Angels Anglican Church,
Foamcrest Avenue, Newport at 1100 on Wednesday, 29th July.
Don
Wilson enlisted in the Citizen Military Forces, or Militia, in 1937 but
when World War II broke out his thoughts turned to the sea. Don had
always loved the ocean and had sailed in his youth, so in May 1940 he
joined the Royal Australian Navy. After completing an anti-submarine
course, Don was commissioned as a Sub-Lieutenant. He was then seconded
to the Royal Navy, embarking for Britain on the same ship that had
carried his father to World War I, the SS Themistocles. Don’s
father served with the 13th Battalion and was wounded at Gallipoli.
Following his arrival in Britain, Don served on trawlers patrolling the
east coast of England, escorting convoys and rescuing survivors from
ships that had been sunk by enemy action or mines. When his trawler put
into port for repairs, Don sought a transfer to a destroyer and served
in HMS Whitshed until January 1942, when a call went out for
volunteers to serve in submarines.
Don had been quite taken with a British submarine he saw in harbour so
he volunteered to join the submariners. After completing an officer
submariners’ course he was assigned to ferry a British-built submarine,
Murat Rhys, to Gibraltar where it was handed over to the Turkish
Navy. Don was then assigned to HMS P31, one of only five British
submarines given number designations instead of names during World War
II. P31 was based in Malta and Alexandria, Egypt, patrolling from
the North African coast to the Gulf of Taranto, Italy.
Don recalled the aerial bombing of Malta was often so severe that the
crew would have to submerge to 30 feet to conduct repairs while in port.
The conditions inside the submarine were cramped, but there was always a
great sense of camaraderie and belonging.
P31 continued to serve in the Mediterranean until she returned to
England for a refit at the end of 1942. Following P31’s return to
sea, Don developed pneumonia and, by the time the boat had reached
Portsmouth, needed hospitalisation. Don remained in hospital for a month
recovering, during which time P31 returned to the Mediterranean.
In February 1943, Don was assigned as second-in-command of the submarine
HMS Untiring, which was under construction in the Vickers
shipyards at Newcastle-upon-Tyne. The boat’s first patrol was to Norway
and North Cape, before heading to the Mediterranean. On 14 December
1943, Untiring fired two torpedoes at a German mine-laying ship
in Monaco harbour while it was loading mines. They scored a direct hit
and the resultant explosion broke virtually every window in Monte Carlo.
In Don's words, "We were the man who broke the bank in Monte Carlo!"
In early 1944, Untiring was patrolling off the Hyeres Islands,
off southern France, when it sighted an important looking vessel leaving
Toulon harbour. Don remembered the ship had a large escort and was
flying three anti-aircraft balloons to prevent aerial attacks.
Untiring fired off four torpedoes, scoring a hit before diving in an
attempt to avoid enemy detection. After half an hour, Untiring
returned to periscope depth to find the enemy escorts waiting. A series
of depth charges exploded as Untiring tried to return to the
deep. Despite suffering extensive damage from more than 300 explosions,
Untiring was able to make her escape below a thermal layer. For
his "courage, skill and devotion to duty" on this patrol, Don was
awarded the Distinguished Service Cross.
Don continued to serve in Untiring until he attended an officer
command course in May 1945. He was promoted to Lieutenant and appointed
to command the submarine HMS Voracious. Voracious was on
her way to join the British Pacific Fleet when peace was declared. Don
commanded the submarine on a tour to Brisbane, Melbourne and
Hobart before leaving the boat in Australia and then being discharged in
March 1946.
Don married Phyllis Westbrooke in 1939 and after the war they bought a
property at Wildes Meadow, growing cabbages and potatoes, before they
were allocated a soldier settler block at Gundaroo, near Canberra. After
16 years at Gundaroo, Don and Phyllis moved to Papua New Guinea and
bought their own island in the Solomon Sea. They grew copra and coffee
on the island plantation until 1981, when they returned to Australia.
Phyllis passed away in 1994.
Don married Joan Tebbutt-Scharkie in 1995.
Sunday, 26th July 2009
Another short Log this week, still little
email of interest this week, we have all gone into winter
hibernation.
My solar
heating on the pool and has been pumping warm(ish) water into the pool.
It appears that I will not be swimming in a steaming pool,
it has been running for over a week and it
has made ah difference, but not much. I have been having a
dip each day, but not for long.
Who said keeping chooks was rewarding?
Despite eating a large quantity of first class chook food this
week they decided the new vegetables would be a good addition to
their diet. What the dog didn't dig up, they ate! If the
little bastards don't start laying soon I will be having chook
for dinner (if I can get someone to kill, clean and dress them.
I couldn't, we are all good friends.
I am a shy guy and normally hide my
achievements, but the latest honour is too big to hide.
See what all the fuss is about at this
link.
SAA NEWS
This week we lost another part of Australian submarine history with
the death of Don Watson. The realisation that we have
captured, and know very little of, the exploits of many of our
older veterans. It became evident when I started to get
responses from them to my request for details to update our
records. I am not the only one, Association Member, CAPT
Tim Brown the Director of Future Submarines Capability
Development, wrote "With great sadness and
alarm that I admit that I have never heard of LCDR Wilson!!! Do
you have any more info on him?" Tim was after the
information to ensure that Don's
was I will be raising this with our
President and Historian to see if there is something we can do
about capturing and promulgating their story's.
I
have been asked of many occasions if the Association had
submarine rings for sale. Unfortunately the cost of buying
the number needed to make it cost effective was beyond our
financial means. Well now they are available in Sterling
silver, 9ct and 18ct gold through SALT.
SALT is owned and operated by the
Royal Australian Navy Central Canteens Fund (RANCCF) for the
benefit of members of the Royal Australian Navy (RAN). All Royal
Australian Navy branded products have been authorised for
production by The Royal Australian Navy. For all the
information required
read
the flyer.
The July issue of In Depth is now online, it will not be of much
interest to those of you on the net as you have probably read
much of it in The log already. It is hard producing both
and keeping them different. To be honest, it is mainly
produced for those Members that do not have computer access and
request a hard copy be sent in the mail. The state
Branches should be sending them out soon to those that responded
top my letter advising them that they were required to advise me
of their wanting it sent to them.
There are still many that have not paid their 2009/10
subscriptions and I will be sending out letters this week
advising them that their membership has lapsed in accordance
with the Constitution. If you have not paid yours please
do so this week. For a list of outstanding members follow
this link.
Norm Williams National Secretary Submarines Association Australia
The following are upcoming Association events, full details of future
SAA Events are available in the Events page at
www.submarinesaustralia.com.
| Date & Time |
State |
Event |
Remarks |
| 1st August 2009 |
QLD |
Social |
Dinner Dance at
Kedron Wavell RSL. Contact
Rob Woolrych
5442 1991 for more information. |
| 2nd August 2009
1030 |
QLD |
Annual General Meeting |
Venue:
Kedron Wavell RSL. Contact
Rob Woolrych
5442 1991 for more information. |
| 9th August 2009
1100 |
ACT |
AGM and Social |
The ACT Branch will hold its AGM on
Sunday 09 August 2009 at the Canberra Services Club, commencing at 1100,
BBQ to follow. |
| 16th August 2009 |
TAS |
AGM and Social |
AGM and Restaurant night at Ross. If you would
like more information call our Social Co-ordinator, Mike Crellin on 0407
663 649. |
| 23rd August 2009
|
VIC |
VP Day |
Venue ESU. Contact
John (Boot) Hatfield 0408
051 085 for more information. |
| 29th August 2009
|
NQ |
General Meeting |
Venue in Townsville TBC. Contact
Garth Schmidt for more information. |
AROUND THE TRAPS
Dave
Luck writes "Went to see Budgie (Bob
Hibberd) today. He isn't travelling too well at all, and he
can't take any more chemo. I was able to talk to him and cracked
a few smiles, he is eating, however, and was going in to lunch
when I left. As you can see he is in a wheelchair and not
very mobile." Bob and Marie moved to the UK when he
was diagnosed with a brain tumour. In an email I received
from Marie earlier in the week she said
"Bob and I went to see his specialist today, he is at a
different hospital to the one where Bob is in. We were taken by
ambulance from one hospital to the other. I was told the
words I dreaded hearing and NEVER wanted to hear. Bob
cannot have any more Chemo therapy, he has gone down hill so
quickly."
Mal Bridges reports that Captain George Hunt DSO*,
DSC*, celebrated his 93rd birthday at his home on the 4th July.
George is well known and liked and is a life member and patron
of both Qld & Nth Qld branches.
ACT resident Mark Taylor asks "I am a
badge collector and former serving officer in the Australian
Army particularly interested in Australia’s veterans’
associations clubs, as well as the preservation of our whole
Australian history more generally. I was wondering if you would
have any association, member or special event/commemorations
badges or pins – past or present – promoting your association
that you or any of your members could send to me and add to my
collection? Please note, I am not a dealer and will not be
selling any of the items on e-bay." If you can help
contact Mark by
email or phone (02) 6257 8458.
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Shortly after receiving Mark's email I
received another from a collector of Military Association
badges, Thomas
Cavanagh, who wrote "I was looking at
your site and thought you might like a copy of the attached
badges." Thanks Thomas, I must check with our
Historian to see if we do have copies too.
Some Profound Truths
Sex is the only activity where you start at the top and work
your way to the bottom, while getting a raise.
Friends are like condoms; they protect you when things get hard
Without nipples, breasts would be pointless.
Without a doubt, women are the foundation stone of the society;
but always remember who laid them!
Money is just like arse... everybody has it, but.... nobody
wants to give it !
Men play the game. Women know the score.
Wives are funny creatures... They don't have sex with their
husbands for weeks and then they want to kill the woman who
does!
Whenever you feel low, depressed or useless, remember that you
are the same sperm that won a battle against a million others.
The most enjoyable form of sex education is the Braille method.
Here is the definition of divorce..... ..She gets the ring and
the man gets the finger!
Confucius say......man who puts hand in bush is not always a
gardener!
Don
Parsons went to help the Otama team with a combination that they
were having trouble with (he couldn't open it) and sent this
photo adding "The rust and deterioration
is more than evident on the old girl." On receiving
a copy Warren French responded "Many
thanks for the pictures of Otama - I'm glad I have memories of
her in better times and condition."
The team that put HMCS Onandaga on display
have had more success than the Otama team and it has opened for
visitors at Pointe-au-Père. They had to haul the submarine
a total distance of 80 metres into it's final resting place.
Through the last portion of the haul, one of the three
dollies supporting the submarine on the ramp slipped out of
position, about ten meters before reaching the intended final
destination. The leaders of the "Site Historique maritime de la
Pointe-au-Père" decided to put a final stop to the hauling
operations. "We are very satisfied with its position" said
director Serge Guay, adding that it would be technically very
complicated and too costly to continue the operation. The
remaining distance of about 10 metres was not significant enough
to justify taking such important risk. Visit the
website or check out the
YouTube video which was sent by John Kidd. John
added "My application to the RAN is in and
I am awaiting a response. My contract with the Canadian Navy
ends 10 Jan 2010."
Bob Emery (for SAOC West), said that the
current edition of their newsletter "Scuttlebutt" is now online
at www.saocwest.com.
Had a request for a SAA application from WO2
Rob Gay who has been a Royal Navy Submariner for the last 22
years and is moving to Sydney on August 22nd 09 year with his
Australian wife. A rare specimen - a smart pom, married an
Australian and is moving over............. I wonder if he can
play cricket?
Maurice Borge has completed the mystery
"The HMS Otter mystery guy is LSUCSM Tom
Spence who is wearing a HM Submarines tally was original Onslow
crew, I am amazed no one recognized him Also I would
like to mention I attended Max `s funeral cremation at
Karrakatta cemetery recently to represent my Dad who was a good
friend of Max and they worked together at the Fremantle power
station, dad being a crane driver and also a WW2 veteran. They
marched together on Anzac Day with the merchant navy behind the
submariners until Max became our patron. Max was patron to both
."
George "Bazoo" Byzewski of the SAOC Halifax Branch in Canada
reports that Cdr Jenner, one of their WW2 Submariners has
died. He sailed RN boats and spent time "Down Under, Down Under"
and wrote books of his times in Oz. Geroge adds
"He will be missed at our SAOC meetings. Time is taking it's
toll!"
Vale - Commander Stephen Jenner
RCN (Rtd). Cdr Jenner
served in RN Submarines from 1941 until his retirement in 1962
as Commander SM6.
He passed away on Sunday, July 19, 2009,
in Musquodoboit Valley Memorial Hospital. Stephen was born in
Haslemere, England, on December 23, 1920, and was educated at
Winchester College, England. He joined the Royal Navy in 1941
and served as a submariner, retiring in 1962 as a Commander. He
spent several years farming, both in England and Nova Scotia,
before moving into health administration from 1970 to 1985. As
administrator of the Abbie J. Lane Memorial Hospital and later
Eastern Shore Memorial Hospital, he was a passionate advocate
for mental health and rural health programs.
Following his retirement from "working"
life, he spent six months in India as a volunteer consultant to
the Hyderabad Eye Institute. He was involved with numerous
community organizations, including the Eastern Shore Safe House
Association, TRIAC, the Eastern Shore Voluntary Food Bank, RCMP
Victim Assistance Program, and acted as Guardian Ad Litem for
many adults in need of protection. In 2000, he was a recipient
of the Governor General's Caring Canadian Award. Steve was an
enthusiastic gardener and cook.
I never knew this before, and now that I know it, I feel
compelled to send it on to my more intelligent friends in the
hope that they, too, will feel edified. Isn't history more fun
when you know something about it? Before the Battle of
Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the
English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured
English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be
impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore
they would be incapable of fighting in the future. This famous
English longbow was made of the native English Yew tree, and the
act of drawing the longbow was known as 'plucking the yew' (or
'pluck yew').
Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major
upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle
fingers at the defeated French, saying, See, we can still pluck
yew! Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say, the difficult
consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a
labiodentals fricative F', and thus the words often used in
conjunction with the one-finger-salute! It is also because of
the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with the longbow that
the symbolic gesture is known as 'giving the bird.'
IT IS STILL AN APPROPRIATE SALUTE TO THE FRENCH TODAY!
And yew thought yew knew
every plucking thing
VETERANS AFFAIRS
ADF service in Somalia
The Parliamentary Secretary for Defence Support, the
Hon. Dr Mike Kelly AM MP, has announced that the independent
Defence Honours and Awards Tribunal will inquire into
recognition of Australian Defence Force (ADF) service in Somalia
between 1992 and 1995. “I am pleased that the Defence
Honours and Awards Tribunal will inquire into recognition for
service in Somalia. This inquiry is another in a series of
reviews into long-standing Defence honours and awards issues
identified by the Australian Government in late 2007,” Dr Kelly
said.
As part of this inquiry, the Tribunal will consider the
establishment of a campaign medal for service in Somalia,
recognition for HMAS Tobruk and HMAS Jervis Bay and recognition
for 1st Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment, Group.
A call for submissions will be released shortly in the national
press. Submissions to the inquiry close on Monday, 24 August
2009. “Many people have raised issues concerning
recognition for ADF service in Somalia and I would encourage
them to now take advantage of this opportunity to make a
submission,” Dr Kelly said.
The Tribunal can be contacted at:
Defence Honours and Awards Tribunal
Locked Bag 7765
CANBERRA BUSINESS CENTRE, ACT 2610
or via email to
DHA.Tribunal@defence.gov.au
The terms of reference for the inquiry and guidance on how to
make a submission can be obtained at:
www.defence-honours-tribunal.gov.au
Veterans’ Health Week
The Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, Alan Griffin, today
delivered on an election commitment to reinstate Veterans’
Health Week, announcing that it will be held from 24 to 30
August 2009, for the first time in eight years. Mr Griffin,
joining veterans in Brisbane today for a game of indoor bowls,
said the Australian Government had re-established the initiative
because of the importance of promoting a healthy lifestyle for
veterans and their families. “In a study of the health and
wellbeing of Australian veterans, war widow and widowers, almost
half (49 per cent) said they tried to make at least one change
to improve their health in the past 12 months,” Mr Griffin said.
“Veterans’ Health Week is an opportunity to take a positive step
to improve health and fitness, which can have significant long
term benefits.
“Department of Veterans’ Affairs and its local Veterans’ Affairs
Network and VVCS – Veteran and Veterans Families Counselling
Service offices are partnering with ex-service organisations and
community groups to develop Veterans’ Health Week programs at a
local level and organise local events.”
Mr Griffin said the theme of this year’s Veterans’ Health Week
was physical activity – encouraging members of the veteran
community to think about their health and wellbeing and take
part in regular exercise to live a stronger, healthier and
happier life. “Veterans’ Health Week highlights the importance
of including physical activities as part of a regular routine,
regardless of age or fitness level,” Mr Griffin said. He added
"I was pleased to watch ex submariner Phil Solomon training on
his bike in preparation for his participating in “Veterans’
Health Week, for a man of his age he is in great condition."
For more information on activities in your area visit
www.dva.gov.au or to find out how to organise an event, contact
the Department of Veterans’ Affairs on 133 254 (for metropolitan
callers) or 1800 555 254 (for non-metropolitan callers).
Northern Territory callers please call 1300 551 918.
DEFENCE NEWS
USS Hawaii steams into Pearl
The first of three Virginia-class submarines -- the USS Hawaii
arrived at Pearl Harbor this week. The arrival ceremony included
a Hawaii Air National Guard F-15 jet flyover and the Pacific
Fleet Band, the Kamehameha Alumni Glee Club, Halau Hula Olana
Ai, Kahuna Pule Ganotise and a haka by Pa Kuci a Lua.
The $2.5 billion Hawaii will be followed later by the
Virginia-class subs USS Texas and USS North Carolina.
Lockheed Martin Meets Key Milestones
for Navy Submarine Communications Program
Lockheed Martin's team developing a Communications at Speed and
Depth (CSD) capability for U.S. Navy submarines has successfully
completed the system requirements review. The capability will
enable secure, two-way communications between submarines
operating below periscope depth and at tactical speeds with
surface ships, aircraft and land-based assets. All classes of
U.S. Navy submarines will be equipped with this transformational
capability.
The Lockheed Martin-led industry team, which includes Ultra
Electronics Ocean Systems and ERAPSCO, a joint venture between
Sparton Electronics Florida, Inc. and Ultra Electronics - USSI,
will deliver three types of two-way communications devices and
associated submarine and shore equipment. Two of the devices -
the tethered expendable communications buoy (TECB) Iridium
system and the TECB-UHF system - are launched from submarines.
The third is an acoustic-to-RF Gateway (A2RF) system that can be
launched from submarines and aircraft.
Since the January contract award, the team has completed both
the integrated baseline review and system requirements review
milestones on schedule. Hardware delivery is expected in
mid-2010. "Successful on-schedule completion of the system
requirements review is a major step in providing submarines the
same access to communication networks as the rest of the U.S.
Navy's fleet," said Rod Reints, Lockheed Martin's senior program
manager for the CSD program. "Our team is now starting the
preliminary design phase, moving us closer to our goal of
providing communications at speed and depth to the U.S. Navy's
submarine fleet."
Thales awarded
three-year UK submarine engineering contract
Thales UK has been awarded a three-year contract by the UK
Ministry of Defence (MoD) to continue its provision of
specialised engineering support to the Royal Navy’s (RN’s)
submarine fleet. For the last six years Thales UK’s Special
Acoustic and Communication Products (SACP) group at Templecombe
has been running the support contract for the UK submarine
fleet’s UHF satellite communication system.
This contract was due for renewal this year and its award to
Thales by the MoD is based on the excellent service previously
provided by the underwater systems team. The contract will
provide support to the fleet on a worldwide, ‘24/7’-availability
basis. To support the work, specialised engineering and
communication facilities have been established at the Somerset
site.
“This capability enabled the SACP group to become a key member
of the team that has just won the competitive tender to supply a
new external communications system for the Astute-class
submarine.” At its Templecombe site Thales UK has been
developing mast antenna technology for 20 years, including
products for all types of RN submarine platform and also for
foreign navies, and has expanded to surface ship and land mobile
systems for worldwide customers.
Thales has designed a variety of antennas for frequencies
ranging from VLF to EHF and has specialised in satellite
communications and multi-function antenna systems. These systems
have been supplied to numerous navies, and the SACP group is
currently bidding significant proposals into both UK and French
submarine equipment update programmes.
Elsewhere in the country Thales UK has been involved in
providing other sensors to RN submarine programme, including
electronic warfare systems developed and supplied from Crawley,
West Sussex, onboard and off-board sonar systems from
Templecombe in Somerset and Stockport in Cheshire, and optronic
masts designed and manufactured in Glasgow. Together, these
sensor systems provide the ‘eyes and ears’ of the submarine,
making it a highly capable warfighting platform.
Thirty Year Old SSG Refurbished
China's lone Golf class ballistic missile sub has apparently
been refurbished, rather than scrapped. These diesel electric
boats (SSGs) were introduced by Russia in the late 1950s, and 23
were built by the early 1960s, when attention was turned to
nuclear ballistic missile boats (SSBN). Fourteen Golfs
were modified in 1966-72 to carry larger R-21 (1600 kilometer
range) missiles. These boats remained in commission until 1990.
A few years later, ten were sold to North Korea for scrap. It's
not certain that North Korea actually dismantled all these subs.
The North Korean No-Dong missiles was based on the R-21.
China received two Golf boats, seven R-11F missiles (a 300
kilometer range SCUD) and the building plans, from Russia in the
1960s, and the Chinese built one in the 1970s, as the JL-2. This
boat rarely put to sea. The R-11F was the basis of later Chinese
ballistic missile design. The recent refurbishment of the
Chinese Golf apparently included changes to the three missile
silos so the boat could be used to test new submarine launched
ballistic missiles (SLBM).
The Golf was a 2,800 ton boat with a crew of 83 and three
missile silos. There were also six torpedo tubes, and during the
Cold War, these boats carried two torpedoes with nuclear
warheads.
21-inch crack is
found in hull of submarine USS Toledo
It had been a decade since a crack had been found in a submarine
hull - until last week. Sailors on the USS Toledo discovered a
21-inch-long crack in the topside hull of their submarine,
behind the sail, while pierside at the Naval Submarine Base
Friday.
Toledo returned to the Groton base in March after 27 months of
maintenance and modernization upgrades at Northrop Grumman
Newport News in Virginia, where it was built.
Water could have leaked into the submarine, but Navy spokesman
Alan Baribeau said the Groton-based, Los Angeles-class
submarine, which was delivered to the Navy in 1995, was not in
danger of sinking. ”The crack itself is above the water line,
and had the ship submerged, the pumps on board would remove any
water and as part of procedure you're going to surface,”
Baribeau said Wednesday, adding that some portions of the crack
are visible while others are detectable only by testing.
The depth of the crack varies along its length, although a
1-inch section of the crack is deep enough to go through the
hull on the Toledo (SSN 769), Baribeau said.
In 1995, before USS Florida (SSGN 728) was
converted from a ballistic-missile submarine to a guided-missile
submarine, a crack appeared in a large casting, which is a part
of the hull that accommodates penetrations like the hatches.
Then in 1999, a similar crack appeared on the Los Angeles-class
submarine USS Boise (SSN 764). In both cases, the castings were
replaced without cracks reappearing, Baribeau said.
Toledo participated in Fleet Week in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.,
April 27 to May 1. The submarine has also performed operations
in the local area since its return to Groton but has not gone on
a full deployment, said Lt. Patrick Evans, spokesman for
Submarine Group Two. In May of this year, Newport News informed
the Navy that a shipyard inspector had signed off on weld
inspections he did not perform.
In 2007, the Navy said welds on all Newport News ships would be
checked because improper weld-filler metal may have been used on
non-nuclear piping systems over an extended period of time. But
Baribeau said the weld issues and the cracked hull of the Toledo
are not related.
The Navy will first determine the cause of the crack, then plot
a course of action, including the repairs and whether any other
submarines will need to be checked, Baribeau said. Evans said
Toledo had been scheduled to leave port soon for additional
local operations, but not a full six-month deployment. ”We do
not anticipate this having an impact on a future full
deployment,” Evans said.

SLOPS VAN SALE
Visit the 'new look'
Slops Van - designed to make it easier to use and while
there take advantage of reduced prices for end of season items
while stocks last. Also some new items and more to come.
Here a few examples of the specials.
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Boof , stop chewing on Nigg's bone, he'll
kill you!!!.............
Sunday, 19th July 2009
Going to be a short Log this week, not had
any email of interest this week and I think a day in the garden
will be better for me than trying to find rubbish to put in it.
The July issue of In Depth is ready to go
out, again not much of interest to go into it, but it meets the
requirements of producing 6 copies a year.
I finally managed to install the solar
heating on the pool and managed to fix the ruptured tubes and it
is now pumping warm(ish) water into the pool.
Not sure how long it will be before I will be swimming in a steaming pool,
it has only been running for two days and I am not sure if it
has made much difference.
It was such a nice day today I took advantage
of having nothing to write about and spent it in the garden with
Boof and Niggs, and it is starting to look a lot better.
My brown thumbs are getting educated by my neighbour Jean, she
is always bringing cuttings over and giving me plenty of advice.
We even discovered that I had some native orchids growing in a
slightly overgrown corner of the yard and they have been fed and
watered and are looking good.
Gardening with Niggs is so much fun.........
I put the plants in and he digs them up. I declared war on him
today and we are not talking to each other at the moment.
The veggie patch is also looking good, my Buk Choy is almost
ready for the stir fry, it grows very fast and likes my salty
bore water, which is more than I can say for the tomatoes.
I must be the only person in town that cannot grow them.
SAA NEWS
Why, three months after they are due, are we
still chasing a large number of Members for their subscriptions,
a lousy $10? The additional workload that chasing these up
is considerable, if you are not renewing, tell us, it will save
us much time and aggro!
I have had many calls from Members re In Depth
as a result of the
letter sent to all Members that we do not have an email
address for and it is becoming clear that a lot of those that we
were not holding an email address for actually have email.
If you have email and do NOT receive email from me from time to
time please send me an email so that I can add you to our
mailing list.
The logo for SUBCON 2010 has been unveiled
and it is a winner. Coffs Harbour is submarine friendly
and many of us can recall a good run that was had there.
It adopted HMAS Ovens and I am sure that it's SUBCON will be a
great success.
I was very pleased to see that the Welfare
Fund and the WA Branch were able to help a Member, Chad
Hardy, recently. I remind Members that the Fund is
there for the benefit of all SAA members in times of need.
To access the Welfare Fund you must be an Association Member,
not a Friend of the Association. The Fund also welcomes
any donations, big or small.
Norm Williams National Secretary Submarines Association Australia
New South Wales Branch
Last week at the Branch AGM. The new Committee is:
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President: Geoff Anderson
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Vice President: Kevin Hayton
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Secretary: Ken Norris
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Treasurer: Wally Whitfield
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General Committee: Rick Steltenpool, Ray
McMinn and Paul Fogarty.
Outgoing Secretary Ken Williams said
"To those of you that helped me over the
last 2.5 years, thanks. To those of you that called and gave me
a hard time, ahhh thanks. To those that have not helped and not
joined but still called and asked for my help and gave me a hard
time, hmmm thanks. The minutes from the AGM are now
available. Please note that the amount of NSW members at the
meetings (16 out of 350) is not real flash, so can you make an
effort over the next twelve months to get to one of the six
meetings."
The SUBCON 2010 web page is under construction and it can be
viewed at
www.submarinesaustralia.com/subcon.html. Coffs is shaping up
to be a big weekend and one hell of a run. See you there!
Ken Norris
Secretary SAA (NSW)
Western Australia
Branch Twenty members and a large number of spouses and
partners turned up and enjoyed a tot and BBQ on completion of
the AGM held on the 15th June. The President, Secretary and
Treasurer were re-appointed
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President: Fred Lawrence
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Vice President: Darren Thompson
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Secretary: Paul Meakin
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Treasurer: John Rana
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Committee: Sid Czabotar, Perry Holland
and Peter Horobin
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Welfare Officer : Buster Keating
We all had the opportunity to admire Chad
Hardy's new Van which was provided for with the assistance of
the SAA Welfare Fund. The Van gives Chad a deal more mobility
and more importantly independence than his previous arrangement
and takes a considerable strain off his Mum. We should all feel
proud that out Association can provide such positive support to
our members.
The committee remains committed to providing a variety of social
functions for the members to enjoy as well as the more formal
Remembrance Day type activities.
The post SUBCON 2009 Report is available and the President at
the AGM made special mention of Sid Czabotar and John Rana for
their efforts and also those of the Ladies on the SUBCON
Committee for their hard work that made SUBCON 2009 such a
success. I will also say that the membership of the WA Branch
played their part also in supporting the whole activity with a
very good percentage of our members participating in all events.
Our next activity will be to squirrel our way round the WWII
Tunnels (just like turning in in the After Ends) at Leighton
Battery on the Stirling Highway, meeting for a tour of the
tunnels at 1200 Sunday 16th August at the Car Park (Bring cash
$7 adults $2 Kids) Tour every 30 mins last 1 hour. Afterwards
intend to lunch at the Orient Hotel in Freo and then move on the
Afternoon Jazz Session at the Navy Club Freo. Come along and
boogy.
Paul Meakin
Secretary SAA WA Branch Inc
Members care....... the SAA Welfare Fund
Just after Easter, our web master received a disturbing email
from a member experiencing difficulty and Norm dutifully passed
the email to the WA Branch. Events were set in train to try to
determine what difficulties the member, Chad Hardy was
experiencing.
Chad
had been an ABUCSM and he contracted Multiple Sclerosis at some
time and this debilitating illness slowly became more difficult
to manage. He had to give up his home and move into his mother's
house and as his MS grew worse, getting around became more and
more difficult. Kay, Chad's mother became his carer and managing
Chad as a well proportioned adult was becoming a real hardship.
This was more than a financial problem - a real cry for help and
after further contact with Chad we found that he was trying to
purchase a wheelchair capable Toyota van from South Australia at
a cost considerably less than one could be sourced in WA. On the
premise that the WA Lotteries Commission was going to provide
some funding, the WA Executive committee resolved that we should
approach the SAA Welfare Fund for funding to finalise the
transaction. I am pleased to report that the Welfare Fund
Trustees action was swift and sure, with the Fund providing
$3200, and $800 being provided by the WA Branch.
Unfortunately
the bid for Lotteries Commission funds failed but Chad's mother,
Kay , came up trumps as all Mums do and with our assistance the
van was purchased. It arrived in WA over the SUBCON weekend, but
Chad could not get access to it until it had passed inspection
and was relicensed. However, the fact it had happened and Chad
felt a need to belong to the Association saw him and his mother
join us for lunch at the Fremantle Gaol.
Chad and Kay attended the WA branch AGM on Sunday 5th July and
proudly showed us the new wheels. At the end of the AGM Chad
thanked us for the assistance we had given him and was pleased
to announce that he could now become a more active member and
would attend future events.
There are other issues to be addressed and Chad knows that he
has access to good support through our Welfare Officer John
Keating or any other member if he needs a hand. $10 a year is
all it takes to be a member - small bikkies for the peace of
mind it may help bring if you need assistance. So if you know
someone who isn't a member - tell them this story.
More importantly - if you can help, the SAA Welfare fund will be
very happy to accept your donation, however big or small.
Fred Lawrence
President
SAA WA Branch Inc
0419930914
Queensland
Branch
The AGM and Dinner Dance at Kedron Wavell RSL is rapidly approaching
and it should be another successful get together of the Queensland
submarine community. I believe it is not too late to book, but email
Rob Woolrych (or phone 07 5442 1991)
for all the details or if you need accommodation or
any special dietary requirements.
Victoria
Branch At the July meeting of the Victoria Branch it was
requested that I email happenings to everyone on my email list
and to confirm if members are receiving Flood Q and other
electronic correspondence.
Up and coming events are: VP Day, August 23rd (NOT 16th). Start
12 noon, please attend by 11:30 so seating can be arranged, ESU
South Yarra. This is one of two special events on our calendar,
the other being Anzac Day. It bears special significance to the
submarine force for the events that happened in the Pacific
during WWII and the submarine losses in that theatre of war. It
is our one occasion to honor the memory of the submariners who
paid the supreme sacrifice defending our shores, please make an
effort to attend.
It was also decided at the meeting to present the HMS Unsparing
WWII Jolly Roger presented to us by Lt 'Jack' Straw, ex TO of
Unsparing, to the Holbrook Submarine Museum during the weekend
of 17-18 October. Transport has been organised leaving approx
10am from Spencer/Lonsdale Street. It will be a 30-seater bus
and spaces are filling fast. Cost will be $25 return fare, per
head, for financial Victoria members (those who have paid their
$15 for our Christmas raffle). This promises to be a good run
ashore and a weekend to look forward to. A copy of the Jolly
Roger is being made and will be held by the Victoria Branch.
Seating is available to other Victorian members but the cost to
them will be $80 return fare. Arrangements have been made at
Holbrook for accommodation but this is at members cost. A price
has been agreed and negotiated by the motel and Victoria branch
at a very reasonable rate - if interested, contact me.
Every effort is made by your committee to ensure that funds
raised are utilised fully and returned to the members, it is sad
that unfortunately support from members out there is not
everything one would hope for. Out of a membership of 112 here
in Victoria, we have a regular attendance of 16-20 members at
the monthly meeting. As you see by the above happenings, there
is plenty to get involved in, not just the mundane attendance at
meetings. Make an effort to attend a meeting and your input will
be appreciated.
The committee is also working on SUBCON 2011 and SAA AGM, which
will be held here in Victoria, volunteers, assistance,
sponsorship is always very much appreciated.
Remember it is YOUR Association, run by us (your shipmates) for
you. Become involved and make our efforts worthwhile.
John Hatfield
Secretary
AROUND THE TRAPS
Pete
Donzow sent this photo of some of the ex Onslow crew that were
on board during the fire on Onslow resulting in the death of
Chris Passlow. A ceremony was held at the Maritime Museum
in Sydney and a plaque and ensign were presented to the Passlow
family. To see detail click the thumbnail)
Carol Wilson writes
"I was wondering if the members are aware
of the Memorial Chapel at Garden Island? I am going to Sydney
next week to attend a Dedication Service where a plaque in
remembrance of Bob’s service in the Navy will be dedicated. It
is offered to any person who had service in the RAN. They hold
the services near Anzac Day, July and around Remembrance Day in
November. The cost of the plaque is $70.00 and is mounted on a
wall in the Chapel along with others and all are equal, t here
is no discrimination regarding rank. He will now be remembered
in two places, the Mudgeeraba Memorial (where I unveiled a
plaque on Anzac Day) and the Garden Island Memorial Chapel. For
anyone who may be interested in this can contact Command
Chaplains Office 14-16 Wylde Street, Potts Point. 2011. Tel: 02
9359 3760."
"I only became aware of this when I wanted to scatter his ashes
at HMAS Watson where we were married. The Chapel at Watson is
now run by a Trust, and one of their objects is to “commemorate
all members” so there cannot be any individual memorials there.
Even the family of the Chaplain who was instrumental in the
building of the Chapel, Chaplain James Trainer (who incidentally
married us) was refused the same request."
The chapel is in a beautiful setting and I have looked at the
stained glass window erected in memory of submariners, it is
magnificent. (To see detail click the thumbnail)
Another
submarine memorial has surface at Elliott Heads near Bundaberg
and Stuart Milburn sent this photo. I did a bit of
searching and discovered that the Submarine Lookout had been a
project close to local resident Bill Murray’s heart, himself a
Returned Serviceman. Together with another local Ray Graham and
other community helpers, they worked tirelessly to have the
original Submarine Lookout acknowledged then dedicated to the
memory of those who lost their lives in defence of this Country.
The upgrade to generate a Remembrance Site that is now a
landmark where future generations can carry on the tradition of
Anzac Day was completed in time for Anzac Day 2006. Financial
grants from Federal, State and Local Governments were received
as a result of Mr Murray and the Association’s drive. Not only
are Remembrance and Anzac Day Commemorations and Easter Services
held at the peaceful surrounds overlooking the ocean, but
weddings and naming celebrations as well.
Ray 'Tug' Wilson solves a little more of
the puzzle. "In the July 12th Log
there is a photo from Noel Lowrie taken circa 1968 on HMS Otter
and I am sure that the unknown person in the bottom right hand
corner is ERA 1 Colin Corney. He was part of the Commissioning
Crew of HMAS Onslow and left it in San Juan in Peurto Rico on
the voyage back to Australia. I especially remember him as
he was a Direct Entry ERA and was in the same Intake as I, and
incidentally Colin/Jerry Lewis, in July 1961. He left the Navy
very soon after the Onslow reached Sydney."
SIA
Essay Competition
Many of you would be aware of an initiative by the SIA to foster
interest in the Future Submarine in the form of an Essay
competition generously supported by ASC Pty Ltd. With $9,000 in
prizes, the essay offers serving naval personnel the opportunity
to compete for three prizes. All contributors will
also
be offered complimentary membership of the SIA for one year
(should they not already be members). Details can be downloaded
from the
SIA's website and, in the interests of widening the debate,
please encourage any serving naval personnel you know to
participate in this exciting competition.
VETERANS AFFAIRS
Review of Military Compensation
Arrangements
The Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, Alan Griffin,
announced that the Review of Military Compensation Arrangements’
steering committee has been appointed, and met yesterday to
commence its consideration of almost 50 submissions from the
service and ex-service communities. “The appointment of
this steering committee is the next step toward delivering the
Government’s election commitment to review the current military
rehabilitation and compensation arrangements,” Mr Griffin said.
“The steering committee members combine an extensive knowledge
of veterans’ entitlements, rehabilitation, safety and
compensation law and policy.”
The review’s steering committee is chaired by Ian Campbell,
Chair of the Military Rehabilitation and Compensation
Commission. Its members are: Major General Craig Orme,
Department of Defence; Ms Peta Furnell, The Treasury; Ms Joan
Ross, Department of Finance and Deregulation; Ms Michelle
Baxter, Department of Education, Employment and Workplace
Relations; and Peter Sutherland, an independent expert in
military rehabilitation and compensation law and a Visiting
Fellow at the Australian National University College of Law.
“We need to ensure that the experiences of those who have been
through the military rehabilitation and compensation system are
considered as part of the Review, and I am grateful to those
organisations and individuals who have made submissions,” Mr
Griffin said.
The next stage of investigations and consultations will include
visits to Defence Force facilities and consultations with
current and former members of the Australian Defence Force,
ex-service organisations, key agencies and other stakeholders.
The Prime Ministerial Advisory Council on Ex-service matters and
the Ex-Service Roundtable will also be consulted for their views
during the Review process.
“The Review is critical in identifying solutions for wider
concerns relating to military rehabilitation and compensation.
It is a significant step by the Government towards addressing
concerns with military rehabilitation and compensation
legislation and the administration of the schemes.”
The Review is examining the adequacy and suitability of military
rehabilitation and compensation arrangements including perceived
disparities and inequities between legislative schemes. Its
terms of reference and further information about committee
members can be found on the review web page from links at
www.dva.gov.au. The Review is expected to report to Government
in the first half of 2010, subject to the complexity of the
matters raised.
The VVCS – Veterans and Veterans Families Counselling Service
can be contacted 24 hours a day, seven days a week on 1800 011
046.
Defence Force Welfare Association Forum
- The ADF in Society
The Defence Force Welfare Association was formed in 1959 to
represent the interests of serving and former members of the
Australia Defence Force. The Association has a proud history of
service and remains committed to serving the interests of
members of the ADF, veterans and their families into the future.
To mark the 50th Anniversary, the Association invites you to
participate in a National Forum to be held on 22 October 2009 at
the Royal Military College of Australia – Duntroon.
THEME
The theme of the Forum is: The Australian Defence Force, the
Australian Community and the Unique Nature of Military Service.
SUBMISSION OF PAPERS
The Association invites proposals for presentation of papers at
the Forum. Should you wish to present a paper at the Forum,
please contact Les Bienkiewicz at the National Office to receive
an information pack and to discuss further details.
AGENDA
The agenda for the day will be finalised by 30 September 2009
and participants will be provided with agenda papers after 30
September 2009.
COST
Participants are asked to pay a contribution of $50 to cover
morning and afternoon teas, lunch and conference papers.
Speakers and invited guests will not be asked to contribute.
REGISTRATION
Should you wish to attend, please send your remittance and full
details (name, position, postal address and contact phone number
and/or email) to:
DFWA Forum
PO Box 4166
KINGSTON ACT 2604
.... as soon as possible as places are limited and acceptances
will be given in order of receipt.
DATES
Submission of proposals for presentation of papers 10 August
2009
Presenters advised 20 August 2009
Submission of Papers to be presented 30 September 2009
Registrations Close 30 September 2009
Release of Final Agenda and Dispatch of Forum Papers 10 October
2009
KEYNOTE ADDRESS - SYNOPSIS
The Unique Nature of Military Service - Brig Kerry Mellor (Retd)
In recent years there seems to have been a shift in assumptions
and attitudes underpinning the way military service is viewed.
Those in government who shape policy are increasingly attracted
to the idea that the soldier (sailor or airman) is adequately
provided for by salary and allowances that compensate for
service both while it is being given and after it has ceased.
Military service can be seen as comparable to other forms of
service that involve risk and danger, and therefore can no
longer be seen as unique.
The unique nature of military service is rooted in the nature of
society itself. Most democratic societies recognize the central
place of the individual as the primary unit of sovereignty.
Sovereign individuals are vested with inalienable human rights,
recognized in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights as,
among others, life, liberty and the security of the person
(Article 3). Australia is a signatory of the Declaration,
adopted by the General Assembly of the UN in 1948
Implicit in Article 3, there is also a right to defence of self
and of others from attack, and this right inevitably gives rise
to an obligation to do so if it is the State which is under
threat or attack.
The inter-relationship of rights and responsibilities borne both
by the state and the individual is complex, and based on the
principle of the social contract. The state may not alienate the
rights of the individual without their assent. The individual,
while preserving the integrity of their rights, may assent to
the state’s demand for surrender of some of them for the common
good, but in all circumstances save one, the state is obliged to
uphold and defend the individual’s rights.
In volunteering for military service, the individual accepts the
surrender of their basic rights under Article 3. They place
their life, liberty and security of person in the hands of the
state. This surrender is not unconditional, though in extremis,
it is absolute. The state, for its part, accepts the obligation
to preserve, as far as is consistent with the achievement of the
military mission, the physical and spiritual wellbeing of the
individual who places himself at its disposal. This obligation
extends beyond the period of service itself, to the physical and
psychological consequences of that service.
Even when the state demands surrender of these rights by
imposing a compulsion for service, the terms of the social
contract imply that such compulsion is done only within the
democratic framework and is therefore with the assent of the
individual, who at all times is party to it.
In no other calling, occupation or profession has the state the
power to accept or demand the surrender of these rights.
Military service in this fundamental respect is unique, and the
obligation this places on the state is inescapable, as it is
enduring.
DEFENCE NEWS
Perth-made eye-in-sky woos buyers
It may look like an overgrown model plane but a Perth-made
aircraft is launching a group of local technology companies out
of the economic gloom and into the international defence market.
The Cyber Eye V1 unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), developed by
Bibra Lake-based Cyber Technology and loaded with technology
designed by a loose coalition of WA companies, is being touted
as a solution to combat everything from piracy to illegal
fishing and people smuggling.
The fully autonomous craft, which has a 7m wing span and can
reach up to 160kmh, is fitted with a day/night video camera
capable of reading a car licence plate from a height of 150m and
can transmit real-time images back to a hand-held monitor.
Former submariner Eric Pearson said he pulled together the
alliance after realising WA was home to worldclass technologies
but the global economic downturn and the red tape involved in
selling to Australia meant many small companies were struggling
to stay afloat. Using the UAV as a platform to which other
technology could be added, he formed the WA Technology
Collaboration to showcase WA’s know-how to the rest of the
world.
The venture proved a success. Within a week of its first
international showcase, Thailand and Malaysia bought three of
the $300,000 packages each. At least 20 orders from other
countries had been received.
“The technology available in Australia and in our own backyard
is amazing but we were going to lose it,” Mr Pearson said. “The
products all worked individually but were having trouble finding
a market, so when we saw they could put the technology on to a
UAV it opened up doors to other markets.”
Mr Pearson, marketing manager of Operational Solutions
Management, said strife-torn countries had shown interest in the
UAV’s use in border protection and the ability to identify
friends from foes in conflict.
There had even been interest from the US, the world leader in
defence research and development.
Eagle-eyed plane spotters can see the UAV in action on July 30
when demonstrations covering a beach patrol, man-overboard
search and piracy and personnel identification are held over
Fremantle and Rottnest.
SUBMARINE
FORCE CHRISTMAS BALL 12 DEC 2009
Planning for subject event is well underway with an active ball
committee, venue booking confirmed and all catering and
entertainment arrangements in place. The ball will be held on
the evening of Sat 12 Dec 09 at the Fremantle Sailing Cub.
Contributions by service organisations are increasing, and these
are expected to reduce pressure on final ticket costs. A maximum
ticket price has been set at $130 per head, although increased
fund raising and contributions poses the potential to reduce
this cost, however this decision can only be made once final
attendance numbers are confirmed.
Ticket price includes a gourmet three course dinner, a five hour
drinks package, venue hire, dj hire, security, parking and
modest decorations. The venue itself provides panoramic vistas
of the Fremantle coastal district. This package represents the
best mix of quality venue, central location and fine dining,
balanced against the need to keep costs reasonable.
Accommodation packages and transport options will be advertised
closer to the event date.
Tickets are now on sale and are expected to be keenly sought
throughout the submarine community. Whilst the size of the venue
is not small, numbers will be managed to ensure that conditions
within the venue do not resemble those experienced onboard the
CCSM. With this in mind, potential attendees will need to
confirm their intention to attend via the payment of a deposit
of dollars three zero per head.
Payments can be made via direct payment to: bank account,
Australian Defence Credit Union, HMAS Stirling ships fund,
account number 390004 S6, BSB 802 397, reference quote attn:
treasurer SM ball, payment from (insert name, number of Tickets,
rank or organisation). Please ensure your name and number
of tickets is in the reference for the transfer.
Personnel who wish to pay off the tickets may do so with final
payment required two weeks prior to the ball, using the same
method as above. Personnel are encouraged to make regular
contributions to the ticket cost in order to avoid last minute
large payments.
SAAWA Vice President Darren Thompson, phone: (08) 9553 2857
Email: darren.thompson2@defence.gov.au )
Dress for the evening will be mess undress or black tie and
ladies equivalent as appropriate. Further admin details will be
promulgated closer to the ball.
The SM Ball is conducted only two yearly, as such it represents
a unique opportunity for the submarine community to gather and
socialise, recognise achievements and share experiences.
Contact SAAWA Vice President CPO
Darren
Thompson for details if
required. Phone: (08) 9553 2857
Come on Boof lets have some us time.............
Sunday, 12th July 2009
This week got better, the sun shone and I
even managed to take a trip to the beach with Boof. I left
Niggs behind as poor Boof is starting to get very frail and
seems to be in a world of his own most of the time. So it was
just me and my mate and we both enjoyed it. While he was
paddling in the water I got a little jealous; his boy bits
dangle in the water while I have to sit down to get mine wet!
I almost managed to install the solar
heating on the pool but the frames I had made for the panels
were not a huge success, mainly because of the way the solar
panels are secured, not a fault in my design. I managed to
rupture one of the tubes but they must have known I was
installing it as they sent some bungs for such eventualities.
With luck I will be swimming in a steaming pool next week.
The garden also got some of my time, the
veggie patch is now toppers with all sorts of food for the
chooks and native birds. With luck there may be enough
left over for some for the table too.
Too nice a day to spend sitting here doing
The Log, time to finish In depth.
SAA NEWS
It is disappointing to see that 10% of the SAA Members have not paid
their subscriptions that were due on May 1st.
Subscriptions have been kept low at $10 a year (or $8 a year if
$40 paid for 5 years) which should be affordable to most. If
your name is on the list could you either pay as soon as
possible or advise us of your intentions so that we can amend
our records accordingly. If you know anyone on the list
can you advise them, we may have incorrect contact details and
they may not be aware. If you have paid and your name is
still on the list contact
John Rana
as he has had two payments made by EFT without details been
given. One payment received on 3/7/09 for $40 Ref: LABS
and one 8/7/09 for $40 Ref: Netbank v yrs subscription.
The matter of In Depth has been a cause
for concern, the cost to produce and deliver far exceeds the
annual subscription that Members pay and has resulted in the
decision not to send hard copy to those on the internet, only to
those that do not have internet access if requested. The
problem arose once sponsorship was withdrawn last year. A
letter has been sent to all Members that we do not have an email
address for, explaining the problem and advising them that they
will get a copy in the mail on request. This has upset
several Members (that are on the internet) and resulted in
threats not to renew membership. I would like to think that our
Members get value for money for their $10, or are we wasting our
time maintaining the websites for our Members?
Norm Williams National Secretary Submarines Association Australia
Western Australia Branch
New South Wales Branch
Today the NSW Branch held it's AGM and Geoff Anderson was
re-elected as President for the next 12 months. More
details later.
Northern Queensland Branch
Garth Schmidt reports that there will be an AGM held for
the NQ branch of the SAA in Townsville on the 29 August. He will
advise the location shortly, but will probably be at the
Townsville RSL club. Email advice has been sent to all members,
however there may be non members out there that may want to
attend as well as visitors, who would be most welcome.
"We had a very
disappointing meeting in Cairns last weekend. Only a handful
turned up. However it was good to catch up with Shorty Donnelly
and wife Carol-Ann and great to see Peter & Marilyn Nielsen and
Coyote and Helen Wyatt. We also had a good look at the
newly refurbished HMAS Cairns, which looks a million dollars,
but of course cost much more. Great messes, but totally
deserted, even with a couple of U.S. skimmers tied up nearby
with 5K sailors on board.
Called in to see Claude ( Rob ) Roberts on the way up and down.
Very pleased to advise that he is in the best of spirits and
determined to be mobile again shortly. His attitude and
determination is inspirational. He has teamed up with an old
mate in the home and they get together every afternoon to "up
spirits". Anyway, please find attached a couple of
photos of the rough heads that attended the Cairns meeting."
Queensland
Branch
The AGM and Dinner Dance at Kedron Wavell RSL is rapidly approaching
and it should be another successful get together of the Queensland
submarine community. I believe it is not too late to book, but email
Rob Woolrych (or phone 07 5442 1991)
for all the details or if you need accommodation or
any special dietary requirements.
The Master of Ceremonies for the night is
Billy Clayton who will be wearing his “Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer
Horns” so a great night is assured.
AROUND THE TRAPS
At
least I know Dave Elliston reads the log, he pointed out the
deliberate mistake I made last week by asking
"Does LCDR Riano Gargiulo RAN (Rtd).
Actually have the same Christian name as his partner?"
Instead of Helen I had inadvertently put Riano." And I
thought I was perfect!!!.
It must be summer in the UK as Dave Luck
is shown here wearing his 'Sunday best' and looking like a real
Aussie tourist. Never did find out why he returned to the
old dart, did he get run out of town? In his latest email he
says "Just bringing a bit of
culture to the
English pub scene. I notice nobody seemed to have a go at
identifying Noel Lowrie's photo."
In the June issue of the Log Noel Lowrie sent this photo
was taken in 1968 (?) in HMS Otter. and asked
"Can you put names to these men who now
must be 40 years on. Makes me feel old, I was the L.O. and Peter
Briggs was the Navigator" Dave says that they are
L to R. Back. Don't know, Ned Kelly, Doug
Elliott, Blue Walker, Tiffy ?, Front. John Cornish, Bob
Madden, ?, know the face, can't get the name, a tiffy I think.
Paul Meakin has been advised of the potential
visit to Australia by a WWII Submariner, Ginger Coles DSM, in
May next year. He plans to visit both Perth and Adelaide in
memory of serving there in WWII. Ginger was Max Shean's ERA on
the X Craft. Peter Dunne's
website records that, on 21 February 1945, HMS Bonaventure,
and six XE-craft submarines (35 ton) were despatched to the Far
East to form the 14th Submarine Flotilla which was formed from
the 12th Submarine Flotilla. They travelled via the Panama
Canal, Pearl Harbor, and the Admiralty Islands and arrived in
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia in about June 1945. The
Six secret XE-craft submarines trained on a lonely part of the
Queensland coast about one hundred miles north of Brisbane. The
location was chosen to avoid the possibility of being spotted by
any Japanese reconnaissance aircraft. Tom Oates, Secretary of
the Submarines Association (Australia Branch) will keep us
informed on the visit.
Peter Smith,
the Hon SAA Historian, is seeking a piece of Australian
submarine history. He writes "I have
recently learnt that when the 'J' class submarines were
decommissioned and sold for scrap the bells were sold for 3
guineas or $6.60 in the early 1920s. The bell from 'J1' had the
following inscription engraved on it. "Ha...Ha...Ha..., Hee...
Hee... Hee..., I can see you, but, you can't see me." If
anyone who reads this, and knows of the whereabouts of the bell
I would be very interested in receiving a photograph of this
relic if it still exists."
Perspective
One day , the father of a very wealthy family took his son on a
trip to the country with the express purpose of showing him how
poor people live. They spent a couple of days and nights on the
farm of what would be considered a very poor family. On
their return from their trip , the father asked his son , "How
was the trip?"
"It was great , Dad."
Did you see how poor people live?" the father asked.
"Oh yeah , " said the son.
"So , tell me , what did you learn from the trip?" asked the
father.
The son answered: "I saw that we have one dog and they had four.
We have a pool that reaches to the middle of our garden and they
have a creek that has no end.
We have imported lanterns in our garden and they have the stars
at night.
Our patio reaches to the front yard and they have the whole
horizon.
We have a small piece of land to live on and they have fields
that go beyond our sight.
We have servants who serve us , but they serve others.
We buy our food , but they grow theirs.
We have walls around our property to protect us , they have
friends to protect them."
The boy's father was speechless.
Then his son added , "Thanks Dad for showing me how poor we
are."
Isn't perspective a wonderful thing? Makes you wonder what would
happen if we all gave thanks for everything we have, instead of
worrying about what we don't have. Appreciate every single
thing you have , especially your friends!
"Life is too short and friends are too few."
Thanks Graham for reminding us all of the
important things in life. Your mate, Norm.
John 'Fred' Fisher Mal reports
"I visited Bob and Beth Bobilak at the
weekend and we had a great time. John Goss and his wife Janine
and daughter Ebony were there too. The reason for going, apart
from seeing Bob, was that it is their 50th wedding anniversary
today. I have enclosed a picture of the three of us taken just
after tot time." Mates care! The Santa lookalike looks
like he has had too many tots!
Tony Noakes writes "I met
a bloke the other day at a Hell Ship memorial, his name is Spike
Nasmyth a very interesting guy. Spent 6 years as a POW in
Vietnam he was an A4 pilot shot down near Hanoi. Anyway he has
written a book about his experiences a bloody good read. It’s
called 2355 Days a POW’s story, ISBN 0-609-89964-3. I think it’s
available on Amazon.com, someone maybe interested in the read.
The memorial was interesting it was put on by the PNG Volunteer
rifles and a Victorian RSL it was for the 1054 Australians and
Norwegians killed on the Montevideo Maru a Japanese freighter
when it was torpedoed by an American submarine, 1 allied
survivor. About 300Km north of Subic Bay, the Japs were
transporting them to Hainan Island for slave labour. There was
an unveiling of a memorial and wreath laying here in Subic Bay
at the Hell Ship Memorial on the 1st of July commemorating the
sinking and sacrifice."
People born between 1925 and 1945....Are
called...The Silent Generation.
People born between 1946 and 1964...Are called.... The Baby
Boomers.
People born between 1965 and 1984...Are called.... Generation X.
People born after 1984....Are called.... Generation Y.
BUT......... Y? Why do we call the last group of
people...Generation Y ? I had no idea until I saw a
caricaturist's explanation! A picture is worth a thousand words!
The answer!
Graeme Kepzig wrote "Hey mate, hope all is
well in the deep north. I've just come back from the north coast
where I had a chance to have a few beers with the Lord Mayor of
Nambucca Heads, Gary "Bendy" Bax and his lovely wife Ann, a
great lady. Bloody nice to catch up and Bendy's home brew is
smooth is all I will say."
VETERANS' AFFAIRS
Scholarships & Grants
being offered in 2010 In 2010 the Australian
Veterans’ Children Assistance Trust (AVCAT) are expecting to
give financial assistance for up to 65 students under many
different scholarship schemes. All schemes help the selected
children in need of the Australian veteran community with the
costs of tertiary education. Applicants are considered for all
schemes for which they are eligible.
Applications open on 18 August 2009. To apply you must be:
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a. Within the means test. That is eligible on assets and income
grounds for Youth Allowance benefits for full- time education.
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b. Enrolled, or planning to enrol in a full-time course of
tertiary education in Australia by attendance at a
university, TAFE or college. The course must be of one or more
academic years length and at undergraduate level.
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c. The child or grandchild of a person who has operational service with
the Australian Navy, Army or Air Force, or if not has three or more
year’s continuous full-time service as a member of the Australian
Defence Force.
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d. Under the age of 25 when applying, unless exceptional circumstances
related to veteran’s service exist.
The largest scheme is the Long Tan Bursary funded by the Australian
Government. There are 50 new bursaries each year. They are valued at
$9,000 each which paid at $3,000 per year for three years. There are
selection number targets for each State and Territory. To apply you must
be the child of an Australian Vietnam Veteran, be resident in Australia,
be entering any year of tertiary study, having not previously received a
Long Tan Bursary.
The other national schemes are the AVCAT Bursary, the two RSL
Scholarships, three Vietnam Veterans’ Peacekeepers and Peacemakers
Scholarship and the Defence Force Welfare Association Scholarship.
George Quinsey Scholarships directly pay tuition fees for economics,
commerce and accountancy studies. There are also regional scholarships.
In NSW, there are three from Brisbane Water Legacy covering Gosford/Wyong
NSW and one from the NSW TPI Association. Some private donors offer two
scholarships to resident NSW applicants. In SA, the VVAA also offers a
scholarship. Schemes vary between $3,000 and $5,000 per year each.
To receive an application form register interest on 1800 620 361.
Children and grandchildren of Vietnam veterans should do so now, as
should any others who believe that they are eligible. If not sure, ask.
Applications close on 31 October each year.
AVCAT PO Box K978, Haymarket, NSW 1240.
FAX: 02 9281 9164, Email: vvt@accsoft.com.au Web:
www.accsoft.com.au/~vvt
Discount Internet for Veterans
Brett Hinton switched ISP to
www.tadaust.org.au, a subsidiary of ISPONE as it offers the
following for pensioners, disabled, and veterans:
Most other companies charge you both ways. That is, they
charge you for the information you send from your computer as well as
the stuff you download. Dial up is fine for everyday users such as
us oldies who just want to check mail etc.

DEFENCE
NEWS
Navy goes high-tech to attract submariners
There is no shortage of challenges to recruiting and retaining people to
serve in Australia's navy submarines: months away from home, life in a
confined space and now the pall of sexism that hangs over the service in
the wake of recent allegations. The navy is trying to combat some of
those perceptions with a new high-tech recruiting tool that aims to give
potential recruits a glimpse of life in a submarine.
Called Ocean Recon, the interactive computer program seeks to demystify
the submarine division, dubbed the "secret service", by showing among
other things that officers on board can enjoy many of the creature
comforts they have on-shore, including gym, internet and study options.
The program, targeted at 16- to 24-year-olds, is the latest tool being
used to recruit the 70 to 80 new officers required to meet the needs of
the West Australian-based submarine division.
Speaking at the launch yesterday, the navy's people and retention chief,
Rear Admiral Steve Gilmore, acknowledged the extent of the challenge as
the navy seeks to attract an extra 700 people funded by the Defence
white paper released earlier this year. "Recruiting continues to be a
challenge for the Royal Australian Navy and submarine service in
particular," he said.
While the Australian Defence Force has experienced a 39 per cent
increase in recruitment inquiries as rising unemployment forces many
people to seek new opportunities, so far it has not led to additional
enlistments. Last year the navy reached only 74 per cent of its
recruitment target, which the Defence Force's recruiting
director-general, Commodore Tim Barrett, yesterday said was due to a
lack of understanding of life in the navy. "There are elements where you
can conduct a normal life: you can still play your music; you can still
get fit; you can still do all those other things," he said.
A review last year into submarine staffing made 29 recommendations,
which the navy have pledged to implement. Already the navy has cut the
number of sailors required to keep watch when submarines are in port,
boosted crew sizes by 25 per cent to ease the workload, broadened
internet access on-board and improved on-shore accommodation.
But with the resources sector offering attractive packages to many
submariners, the navy has launched a retention bonus for people with key
skills and now offer $60,000 payments for an 18-month commitment to
serve.
Go to Defence Jobs -
submarines
Baltic Sea divers find wreck of Soviet
submarine After a decade-long search, a team of Baltic Sea
divers has discovered the wreckage of a Soviet submarine that sank with
dozens of sailors aboard during World War II, one of the divers said
Tuesday. They found the S-2 submarine near the Aland Islands between
Sweden and Finland in February but only announced it Tuesday because
they wanted to confirm the identity of the vessel, team member Marten
Zetterstrom said.
He said all 50 crew members died when the vessel exploded in 1940,
probably after hitting a mine. He declined to give the exact location.
"I think it's been 10 years since people started searching. I've been
part of it for four-five years," Zetterstrom said.
Markus Lindholm, an Aland-based expert who studied pictures of the
wreck, said the claim appeared to be true. "According to all available
sources no other submarine has sunk in those waters," said Lindholm,
curator of maritime archaeology at Finland's National Board of
Antiquities.
The submarine was last spotted at surface level by a lighthouse keeper
on the Market island, west of the Aland archipelago, Lindholm said. He
said the keeper's notes of the incident have been preserved and describe
how the vessel headed north before diving and entering a Finnish
minefield, after which an explosion was heard. Lindholm said
pictures showed the front of the submarine was missing, apparently torn
off by an explosion. "The mine must have hit the submarine hull
near the torpedo tubes and then the whole thing blew up," he said.
Zetterstrom said the divers had informed Swedish and Russian authorities
about the discovery.
Russia's Nerpa nuclear submarine resumes sea
trials in Pacific
Russia's Nerpa nuclear-powered submarine, which was damaged in a fatal
accident during previous tests, resumed sea trials on Friday in the Sea
of Japan, a spokesperson for the Amur shipyard said. "The Nerpa nuclear
submarine...has left a repair facility in the town of Bolshoy Kamen in
the Primorye Territory and is headed for a series of sea trials," Marina
Radayeva said.
On November 8, 2008, while the Nerpa was undergoing sea trials in the
Sea of Japan, its on-board fire suppression system went off, releasing a
deadly gas into the sleeping quarters. Three crewmembers and 17 shipyard
workers were killed. There were 208 people, 81 of them submariners, on
board the vessel at the time.
Following the repairs, which cost an estimated 1.9 billion rubles (about
$60 mln), the submarine was cleared for final sea trials before being
commissioned with the Russian Navy and leased to the Indian Navy by the
end of 2009.
India reportedly paid $650 million for a 10-year lease of the 12,000-ton
K-152 Nerpa, an Akula II class nuclear-powered attack submarine. Akula
II class vessels are considered the quietest and deadliest of all
Russian nuclear-powered attack submarines.
I
have just taken delivery of my latest order from wines Direct, a 2005
Tempus Two Pewter Label Merlot for only $9.95 each. Before the wine glut
I have paid as much as &39.95 for this wine (who said I was a
cheapskate?) For this week's specials go to
GetWineDirect and save enough to buy heaps more, you can never have
enough wine. Please visit the
website
and when you place your order be sure to include the CLUB ID number to
go onto your order so the SAA can claim the 5% of sales. SAA ID Number
is
3558
or for WA Members the ID Number is
9375.
SUBMARINE ASSOCIATION AUSTRALIA Annual subscriptions Annual subscriptions are
if your name appears in this list.
Payment should be forwarded to:
John Rana National
Treasurer, SAA 5 Mirror Cove Waikiki WA 6169
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Details for Payment by EFT: Bank: Aust Defence Credit
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McGINN GJ |
ROACH TA |
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ATKINSON BR |
GILBERTSON DJ |
McGUIGAN RD |
RODGERS DW |
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BIRCH R |
HILLMAN M |
McMINN R |
SMITH AJ |
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BOYLES W |
HODGES J (Vic) |
MERRIGAN LA |
SOLOMON P |
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HOLMES JS |
METCALF JP |
STANDING M |
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HUNTER J |
MILLS KA |
STRAWHAN MDA |
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CRANE B |
HURFORD PD |
MORTON KC |
SWANSON MA |
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CHURCHILL HE |
JAMES AD |
MURRELL RD |
TAUBMAN JMH |
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CLARKE R |
JENSEN PG |
NICHOLS DC |
THOMPSON K |
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DALEY FJ |
JOHNSTONE AM |
O'NEILL JG |
THURSTON RC |
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DIKKENBERG GJ |
KEARVELL DJ |
OSBORNE AC |
TUNBRIDGE JR |
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DRAPER G |
KEEGAN C - Address unknown |
PARDOE MS |
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EILOLA PG |
KEESING GA |
PATRICK RL |
WAPLES JJ |
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EVATT PG |
KEETON M |
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LENEHAN C |
PETERS KR |
WELLER-LEWIS PA |
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MASTERSON M - Address unknown |
PIESSE G |
WILKINSON NA |
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MARRIOTTO G |
PROTHEROE GP |
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Come on Boof , let's grab a bottle of wine and hide
from Niggs.............
Sunday, 5th July 2009
Last week I signed off with "Next week had better be better!!!"
Actually, my week didn't improve much at all, I had planned a
few things but the weather put an end to those plans. the
wind was strong and bitterly cold and after i finish today's Log
I am going out with my blower to clean up the yard and pool.
My priority this week is to install the solar
heating on the pool, jumped in yesterday (silly boy) and was out
in a flash, the chill factor of the wind caused it to almost
freeze in a few days. I have had frames made for the
panels and it is now only a matter of assembling the bloody
thing. Should only take me a few days, plus a few hours
for the plumber to come in and finish it when I stuff it up.
I was going to the 10th International
Submarine Races in Bethesda, Maryland this month, but time let
me down. I have read about this often and the photos are worth
looking at, although not to everyone's interest I suppose.
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To my critics!!! |
Last week I explained that I was having a few
problems with technology and this resulted in quite a lot of
email from some critics, kick a bloke while he's down why don't
you!!! Not all of us have kids that can look after these
little problems, I have to sort them out my self. I
received several copies of the following joke:
I was having trouble with my new television,
so I called Richard, the 11 year old next door whose bedroom
looks like Mission Control, and asked him to come over. Richard
clicked a couple of buttons and solved the problem. As he was
walking away, I called after him, 'So, what was wrong? He
replied, 'It was an ID ten T error.' I didn't want to appear
stupid, but nonetheless inquired, 'An, ID ten T error? What's
that? In case I need to fix it again.' Richard grinned. 'Haven't
you ever heard of an ID ten T error before?' 'No,' I replied.
'Write it down,' he said, 'and I think you'll figure it out.' So
I wrote down: I D 1 0 T. I used to like the little shit.
My little puppy is little no more; he can now
reach anything, anywhere and when he stands on his hind legs is
nearly as tall as me (I had I instead of me but it looked
pretentious). I was cooking sausages in the wall oven last
night and had pulled the tray out once they were cooked.
Silly move, Niggs decided that he dinner was self serve and when
I came back to the kitchen the only thing left was a happy
dog..... oh well, got him off Boof's back for a while.
He also has a thing for an undies, most of mine are now
crutchless (no comments please!) and I now have to make sure my
dirty clothes go straight into the washing machine, not on the
floor. How long is the puppy stage?
I did manage to put in new plants in my
vegetable gardens, broccoli, cabbage, spinach, celery and
zucchini. I have been preparing the soil for a couple of months,
there is more cow shit in my gardens than at the Sydney Easter
show. I am sure I will succeed this year, will probably
have to set up a stall out the front to get rid of the excess.
My crops failed last year and I have come to the conclusion that
you have to have a degree in gardening to grow tomatoes, so they
are not going in this year. If I finally get any eggs from
the chooks I may even be able to sell a few of them too.
Us self funded retirees have to do something to grow our meager
funds. especially after receiving the letter from DRFRD saying
no rise this year..... I bet the pollies didn't get a zero
growth in their indexed pensions.
About time we started to put more pressure on
the Government about DFRDB pensions.
Oh well, better get on with the log or I'll
run out of time again.
PS: I am having a problem, Bold print not
working in second half of Log, will look into it later.....

SAA NEWS
I have taken advantage of the weather this
week and started to carry out some of the actions from the AGM.
There is now a password protected area in the SAA website for
Members Only. This is under development and at the moment
only contains a list of Members and the Secretary's Log.
there is also a separate area for Committee Members only, and
this currently contains a list of Members and contact details.
It is hoped that a collaborative effort by all secretaries will
help keep our records up to date.
This week we sent out 200 letters to
members that we do not have email addresses for advising them of
changes to the distribution of In Depth. It is important
that we reduce the number that require hard copy. If you
visit the Log but have not given me your email address (or any
change to it), please do so.
work on new By-laws has started and a page
will soon be available on the site where you can review the
changes and make recommendations and suggestions. This
time we want everyone to have a input into the changes to the
Constitution. To take the politics out of it, names of the
person or Branch making a proposal will not be displayed.
It's starting to happen and all Members
are requested to forward any suggestions on how we can improve
the Association are always welcome. If we don't know its
broke, we cant fix it!
There are a few AGMs coming up and I ask
that all branch members consider turning up as a sign of support
for the Committees. It is a good opportunity to catch up
with some old mates and share a tall story or two. Yours
is on next Sunday NSW.
Western
Australia Branch Lieutenant-Commander
Max Shean DSO* RANVR (Rtd) Fred Lawrence,
President of the WA Branch reports that Max Shean's funeral
held on Monday 22nd of June was a fitting send off for
an indominatable spirit. The day was crisp and clear, winter
rains stayed away and sufficient sunshine broke through the
cloud to warm the mourners gathering before the service.
RADM Davyd Thomas, RAN, Deputy Chief Of Navy attended
representing the Chief of Navy. Captain SM (CAPT Brett
Sampson) the Commanding Officer HMAS Stirling (CAPT Brett
Dowsing) and CAPT Tim Brown all took part in the
service.
The service was MC'd by Peter Horobin and conducted by Chaplain
Duncan Besci, RAN in front of a chapel filled to
overflowing. His Excellency, The Governor of Western Australia,
Dr Ken Michael was also in attendance.
Our Association and our RN brothers gathered as one in the
funeral procession which made its way to the Chapel to the beat
of a muffled drum. A funeral firing party lead the procession
and serving submariners lined the avenue leading to the chapel.
Prior to the committal of the casket three volleys were fired and
after the Naval Ode was delivered by Jack McRoberts, President
of WA Legacy, the Last Post and Reveille was sounded.
After the service was completed mourners were invited to
refreshments at the Fremantle Sailing Club, Max's old club. I'm
sure that all members who knew Max will remember him with great
fondness - He will be missed by this Branch.
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Photo's
courtesy of Navy Imagery Unit-West. |
A full album of the funeral can
be found at
this
link. |
Queensland
Branch
Support for the Dinner Dance at
Kedron Wavell RSL has been excellent and those of you who have said you
are coming and have not yet paid please pay as soon as you are able.
For those of you who are still vacillating and pontificating on whether
to come or not, make the decision and jump in at the deep end and say
you will join us on the night for the Party and then you can come to the
AGM on the following day.
If you do decide to come let me know at
email robjan_w@launch.net.au or phone 07 5442 1991. If you need
accommodation I have a list of Motels in the near proximity of the venue
so just ask or use the RACQ website/Accommodation Guide.
I realize that there are some of you who still do not know if you are
going to be free on the night due to work and travel commitments and to
those I would ask, please if possible give me a weeks notice, if you
decide to join us. This will give us time for the Seating Plan, Food and
other ancillary arrangements to be made. Contact me if you have
any special dietary requirements.
If there are any of you are not coming
because you are worried that you will not know anyone then the “Meet and
Greet” with the “smallie eats” prior to Dinner is the period when our
star “Master of Ceremonies”, Bill Clayton will make sure you are
introduced to all and sundry. The “M.C” will be wearing his “Rudolph the
Red Nose Reindeer Horns” (left over from our Christmas in July 2007) so
if you are having problems just latch on to Billy and he will put you
straight.
Rob Woolrych, Secretary
AROUND THE TRAPS
I received some photos from ex LSUCSM
David Costello
who had previously reported that he was still living in England
("Biggest mistake of my life not staying in boats,
I wish I could do it all over again."). He caught up with
submariner LEUT Jon Corker who is currently serving on HMAS Ballarat
which was on a visit to Portsmouth as part of Northern Trident 09, a
six-month international deployment that will support Australian
Government diplomatic, international security and defence industry
interests in Western Europe, North America and North Asia. A
highlight of the deployment includes visits to a multitude of overseas
ports in countries such as India, France, the United Kingdom, Canada,
the United States and Japan. David added "It was
great fun catching up with Jon. Spinning warries and having a ball."
Love the cap David!!
Spam Warning
if you receive an email from someone you 'know' asking for
financial assistance, beware! I like many others received
an email from Peter Smith requesting money. I immediately
took it to be false, I know Peter would never be that silly.
I contacted him and he has responded "I
have been informed that my gmail account has been hacked into
and I am told that a message supposedly from me has been sent
requesting money be sent to England to bail me out of trouble as
I had lost my travel documents and money. The hacker got
into my site and took all the addresses in my contact book and
then deleted it, obviously to put me off track of who was in the
Contact file. The gmail account was set up last year when I was
having difficulties with my then server, the addresses in the
file were all Branch Secretaries and some Presidents so that I
could contact them from my local library re In Depth, etc.

As I am a seasoned world traveler (6 years Pussers and 19 years
Qantas) I would not have got myself into this type of trouble
and I would have had arrangements with my bank to cover any
unforeseen costs. Sorry for any inconvenience, but be aware that
there are hackers out there and I think I got out of this one
fairly easy."
US SUBVETS WW2 Memorial Service -
Albany 31 May 2009
Fred
Lawrence sent the following report on the annual memorial service to
remember the USN submarine losses of the 2nd World War
which was held in Albany on Sunday 31May. "With
SUBCON being the following week our branch representation was fewer than
in previous years, but I am grateful for Pod and Allison O'Donahue who
made the trip down and the unexpected but great attendance by Jim and
Nina Blunt and Pete and Barb Sellars from Queensland who had told me
that they were touring the southwest prior to SUBCON.
Tom Oates, the Submariners Association Secretary with five other members
of his association arranged for a group dinner on Saturday night and we
all gathered at the Le Grande Motel along with the enlisted USN
submariners posted to the Submarine FEG. Unfortunately LCDR Paul
Varnadore and his wife were delayed on the way down and could not join
us.
On Sunday the weather was threatening, sprinkling with rain and as the
service commenced rain fell out of the sky by the bucket load, but
cleared away after about ten minutes. The service was conducted by
Reverend Bob Pittman a WW2 submariner and member of the Submariners
Association. LCDR Paul Varnadore USN gave the formal address, with CPO
Craig Werley laying their wreath and two enlisted men , STS Chris
Heffernan and STS John Yuhas called the Honour Roll and tolled the bell.
Our Squadron was represented by CAPT Brett Sampson (Captain SM) who was
accompanied by his wife Robyn. I laid a wreath on behalf of our
Association. As always it was a trip worth doing and we hope to continue
being a part in coming years."
Last week I mentioned another ex submariner that had changed over
to the RAAF for an easy life, Nev McClean. Jim Joyce responded
"Norm I served in the RAAF after pussers and did a tour in
Butterworth,1977-1980, where I met up with Trevor Babore who was serving
as a Radio Technician. Trevor invited me around to his section for lunch
one day and who should I meet but a bloke I served with on Queenborough.
Later toward the end of my tour, I met up with an ex-Submarine Stoker,
serving in the RAAF as a Signals Operator. Some years later my wife and
I went to Penang for a holiday and I sought to contact an old RAAF mate
whom I knew was in Butterworth at the time, he was also ex-pusser. I
telephoned the RAAF Police from my hotel and asked if they would contact
my mate and let him know I was in town. To my surprise I received a
phone call from Don Fleet, whom I had gone to the U.K. with in 1968, he
was a RAAF Dog Handler and had heard the message passed over the radio.
Small world!"
Dave
Holland reports "The 'Holland's' horse 'TOGHA'
finally had a win - 1st run since being gelded ,so we are hoping there
are more to come. Paid a handy 14/1 and we all cleaned up. Keep an
eye out for it's next race in Sydney." As usual I get the
tips AFTER the race!!! Dave is the one in the pink shirt.
A very loud, unattractive, hard-faced
woman was touring a visiting submarine with her two kids in tow,
screaming obscenities at them all the way through the boat. An old
kellick forendy said, "Good morning and welcome aboard, nice children
you've got there. Are they twins?"
The woman stops screaming long enough to snarl: "Of course they bloody
aren't! The oldest is nine and the youngest is seven. Why the hell
would you think they're twins? Do you really think they look
alike, you dickhead?"
"Absolutely not," replies the kellick, "I just can't believe anyone
would root you twice"
The Submarine Institute of Australia have made a DVD of Max Shean's
life which is available on the new
SIA Online Shop. The DVD 'Above and Below:
The Extraordinary Life of Max Shean'." Cost $20 plus postage.
It
is pleasing to see the continued support that Thales give to the
submarine community. Thales support the SAA in many ways, and their
support of SUBCON and this website are appreciated. It was good to see
that Mr Chris Lloyd, Vice President Naval, Thales Australia, announced
that Thales would be continuing its Ruby sponsorship of the Submarine
Institute of Australia this week. In welcoming this news, SIA President
Rear Admiral Peter Briggs recognised the important and long-standing
relationship between Thales Australia and the SIA and said that
"the support of our sponsors is vital if we are to
continue to sell the message of the value of submarines in Australian
defence to Government and the Australian public. As our inaugural
sponsor, Thales Australia has made an important contribution to the
SIA's achievement of its objectives and for that we are very grateful."
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John Goss wrote "Notwithstanding the sadness of
Bob Marsland's passing and I'm not sure of Wing's Colbert's situation
this find to me is a treasure. Pints of scrumpy two weeks
after our arrival - July 1967. You handsome devil." Yes
John, we were then, but you should see us now. The photo (above)
taken at the 40th Birthday reunion in Fremantle last month........
Included in the photo are Rip Mahoney, Tom Harrison, ?, John Morris, Roy
Cross, Norm Williams, Ray Clarke, Tom Johnson, ?, Peter Briggs, Fred
Lawrence, ?,? and John Angelini (who was at the toilet and had to be
photoshopped into the photo). Unfortunately Barry Nobes could not
attend but sent the following message.
HMAS
OVENS The three years I spent with
OVENS were no doubt the best and most enjoyable professional time in my
career. I kind of had the feeling before I joined that they might be. A
brand new submarine building at Scotts, the best yard – time to have an
input and time to get together a ship’s company , and plan a trip to the
other side of the world! What more could you ask? The boat itself was
superb, I believe, and once we had learnt what she could do we did it!
The building process was fun, if a little frustrating, but what about
doing our first sea trials with no furniture. I was the Master of a
merchant submarine and was paid the princely sum of one pound. The
really hard work that was put in by so much of the ship’s company before
commissioning and the way that you were all shaping up assured me that
this was going to be a good-‘un. And so it turned out. I had never
served in a submarine (and I had been in eight others) with people with
so much experience, knowledge, commonsense, and sheer quality. I think I
probably sat back in the Work-Up and let it all happen - certainly
that’s what one on the staff officers said to me. He just didn’t
understand the reliance, experience and trust there was. Most certainly
I found the Work-Up much less strain than others I had been in. You, the
ship’s company, were magnificent. I don’t think there were any weak
links in the team - and this is what submarines are really all about.
I do not want to mention individuals; let us just say we worked well,
fixed things when they need fixing, fed well, had just about everything
we needed, went to interesting places, played hard and enjoyed life to
the full! And weren’t the staff at Faslane jealous!
Talking about visiting interesting places! There were differences
between them - London and Valpar aiso
provided a bit more than Arrochar or Inverary! What can I say about the
trip out to Australia. Most of you won’t have much knowledge of the
prior planning and negotiating. But it all went extraordinarily well -
the only major hiccup, as some of you will remember, I’m sure, was that
I forgot to organise payment of the toll for the Panama Canal. But even
that was overcome (on a Saturday morning). All the places we went to
were interesting and enjoyable. The only regret was that ‘they’ wouldn’t
let us go round the Horn. I think they were afraid we would disrupt the
single-handed round-the-world yacht race going the other way! There were
so many incidents, many funny, some very interesting - too many to
recall.
Coming through the Heads dived into Port Jackson on that memorable
arrival day - what a sight, what a feeling - and then berthing at
Plats, greeting the wives and families. The end of a great voyage, at
least that’s what I thought!!
Life turned much more mundane after that. But there were moments like
the first visit to Coffs Harbour and the subsequent liaison with that
Shire, as it was then. And our little excursion south of Tasmania to
look at a fellow underwater traveller. We missed the opening of the
Opera House but it was too late to delete the name ‘Ovens’ from the
Fleet Review.
But life remained interesting – we met every planned exercise and more
and I was very sad to leave the boat and hand her over.
I
have written too much so I will end now. I wish you all and your wives
and partners the happiest of weekends – I really would love to be with
you. The experience I had with you in ‘Ovens’ had been the best of
my service life. Thank you, everyone.
Barry Nobes Commissioning CO, HMAS Ovens
Dear Swannee, Please find my suggestion for fixing Australia's
economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to banks that will
squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the
following plan. You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan.
There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force. Pay
them $1 million each severance for early retirement with the following
stipulations:
They MUST retire. Ten million job openings -
Unemployment fixed They MUST buy a new Australian car. Ten
million cars ordered - Car Industry fixed They MUST either buy a
house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed They MUST
send their kids to school/TAFE/university - Crime rate fixed
They MUST buy $100 WORTH of alcohol/tobacco a week .....and there's
your money back in duty/tax etc
It can't get any easier than that! If more money is needed, have
all members of parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and
second home allowances.
Dave (Goldie) Horn visited the USS Essex whilst it was in Cairns for
some R&R prior to Operation Talisman Sabre later this month.
VETERANS' AFFAIRS
East Timor Solidarity Medal (Medalha Solidariedade de Timor-Leste) The East
Timorese Solidarity Medal was introduced by the President of
East Timor in recognition of forces involved in the contribution
to stability and peace operations in East
Timor. The commencement date is 6 May 2006 and qualification for
the medal is:
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a. Having served a minimum of 180 days continuous
or accrued service in East Timor from 1 May 2006; or
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b. Nominations will be considered for personnel
that have served a minimum of 120 days from 1 May 06; or
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c. Nominations will be considered for personnel
who served with a start date
in May or June 2006 for a period at least 90 days; or
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d. The President of the Republic may consider
extra-ordinary cases outside the above time-periods.
Applications for extra-ordinary cases must be approved and
submitted through the Department of Defence in Canberra, to be
considered and approved by the President of the Republic.
Eligible Defence personnel who may be approved for unrestricted
acceptance and wearing of the medal are ADF personnel assigned
for service as part of the ADF contribution in East Timor and
Defence civilians serving in East Timor under the auspices of
the Defence Force Discipline Act.
HEALTH MATTERS
This information is general, and
has been stolen from the Derbyshire Submariners Association
newsletter, but worth reading. When did you have your last
checkup?.
PROSTATE/DIABETES.
If you’re always on the toilet or need it in the night even when you
haven’t got a lot of fluid, it could be a sign of a health problem.
Although talking about waterworks can be embarrassing, you need to check
things out with your doctor as it could be problems with your prostate
or diabetes or if you are lucky nothing at all but it is better to
check. Many are on water tablets and other medication which could also
throw up a perfectly innocent explanation
PROSTATE:
Increasing frequent trips to the loo could mean a problem with your
prostate gland. Your prostate surrounds your urethra and is the size of
a small nut. Its main function is producing semen. (A very nautical
piece of kit!) One common prostate problem that comes with age is
called BPH, a condition where the prostate becomes enlarged, putting
pressure on the urethra and making passing water difficult. A more
serious problem is prostate cancer. As the most common male cancer, it
usually affects men over 50, There are many different types of prostate
problems, so if you feel any of the following signs you should seek
advice from your doctor: a weak flow when passing urine; the feeling
that you still have urine in the bladder after going to the loo; blood
in the urine; passing urine more often and Lower back or hip pain.
DIABETES: Diabetes
occurs when the level of glucose (sugar) in the blood is too high.
Normally insulin would help this sugar to pass into the body’s cells
where it is used as energy. There are Two types of diabetes:
Type 1: this develops quickly, usually
over a few weeks. It occurs when the insulin producing cells in the
pancreas are destroyed.
Type 2: this develops more slowly, over a
period of years, when there is not enough insulin in the body of the
insulin produced does not work properly, leaving excess glucose in the
blood. The main symptoms to look out for are: Increased thirst; Going
to the loo more, especially at night, Extreme fatigue, Weight loss,
Genital itching, Slow healing cuts and wounds, Blurred vision. If you
have diabetes, you will need to make changes to your lifestyle to manage
it.
DEPRESSION: If
feelings of unhappiness are making leading a normal life difficult, you
could be suffering from depression. It’s important to realise that
depression is not a sign of weakness and to look out for symptoms such
as:
A
negative view of life, Lack of confidence, Low sex drive, Crying,
Feeling tired most of the time, Poor concentration. Although there’s no
clear reason why depression occurs, it can often stem from: A recent
bereavement, Relationship problems, Financial worries and Stress at work
to name but a few. There are many ways to treat depression. However,
the first step is admitting you might be suffering from it. It’s normal
to sometimes not want to burden loved ones with how you’re feeling, but
remember you can always confide in your doctor who’ll be able to listen,
support and help you.
HIGH CHOLESTEROL:
Cholesterol is a fatty substance which can gradually build up and narrow
artery walls. This gradual build up of fatty material can cause
coronary heart disease and cause blood clots which can create blockages
that can lead to extreme conditions such as heart attacks and strokes.
High cholesterol levels can run in the family, so it is advisable to try
to keep you cholesterol to a minimum. If you find that your cholesterol
levels are high, do not worry as medical treatments are available to
you. Simple changes to your lifestyle can reduce the risk. Basically
your wife will cut out proper cooked breakfasts and this is an ideal
incentive to ensure you come on as many Branch Trips to such events as
the Reunion, AGM and K13 memorial to enjoy a decent breakfast once in a
while!!!

DEFENCE NEWS
Israeli sub sails Suez, signaling reach
to Iran
An Israeli submarine sailed the Suez Canal to the Red Sea as
part of a naval drill last month, defense sources said on
Friday, describing the unusual maneuver as a show of strategic
reach in the face of Iran.
Israel long kept its three Dolphin-class submarines, which are
widely assumed to carry nuclear missiles, away from Suez so as
not to expose them to the gaze of Egyptian harbormasters.
It was unclear when last month the vessel left the
Mediterranean. One source said the voyage was planned for months
and so was not related to unrest after the June 12 re-election
of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whom the Israelis see as
promoting the pursuit of nuclear weapons to threaten them.
Sailing to the Gulf without using Suez would oblige the
diesel-fueled Israeli submarines, normally based in the
Mediterranean, to circumnavigate Africa -- a weeks-long voyage.
That would have limited use in signaling Israel's readiness to
retaliate should it ever come under an Iranian nuclear attack.
Shorter-term, the submarines' conventional missiles could also
be deployed in any Israeli strikes on Iran's atomic sites, which
Tehran insists have only civilian energy purposes.
Egyptian officials at Suez said they would neither confirm nor
deny reports regarding military movements. One official said
that if there was such a passage by Israelis in the canal, it
would not be problematic as Egypt and Israel are not at war.
Egypt is one of only two Arab states to have signed a peace
treaty with Israel, but relations remain cool. However, Arab
states that are allies of the United States appear to share some
of Israel's concerns about non-Arab Iran's nuclear program.
Israel is assumed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal,
but does not discuss this under an "ambiguity" policy billed as
deterring its enemies while avoiding provocations.
Another Israeli defense source with extensive naval experience
said the drill "showed that we can far more easily access the
Indian Ocean, and the Gulf, than before."
But the source added: "If indeed our subs are capable of doing
to Iran what they are believed to be capable of doing, then
surely this is a capability that can be put into action from the
Mediterranean?"
Each German-made Dolphin has 10 torpedo tubes, four of them
widened at Israel's request -- to accommodate, some independent
analysts believe, nuclear-tipped cruise missiles. But there have
been questions about whether these would have the 1,500-km
(1,000-mile) range needed to hit Iran from the Mediterranean.
Turkey, Germany to sign
submarine deal
Turkey will sign an agreement Thursday with Germany to
jointly build six submarines for the Turkish Naval
Forces, the semi-official Anatolia news agency reported.
The deal covers six Class-214 air-independent propulsion
submarines for the Turkish Naval Forces and will
significantly improve the navy's capability to undertake
longer underwater operations, the report cited a
statement by the German embassy in Ankara as saying.
The Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH (HDW), which is
part of the German ship-building giant Thyssen Krupp
Marine Systems, and Turkey's Golcuk Naval Shipyard based
in the Kocaeli Province will participate in the
production, said the report. It didn't disclose
financial details, but quoted Turkish Defense Minister
Vecdi Gonul as saying that Turkish industrial
participation in the project would be worth around 80
percent of the total value of the deal.
The HDW will preassemble structural and mechanical parts
of the submarines, or classified elements such as the
fuel cells and propulsion systems, in Germany and then
ship them to Turkey, according to the report. All
electronic and weapon systems, including sensor,
communications, and data processing systems, will be
designed and produced by the Turkish side.
Senior Turkish and German government officials and naval
forces commanders will attend the signing ceremony
scheduled on Thursday, said the report.
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Students design, build, race
pedal-powered submarines
Usually the 32,000-foot-long David Taylor Model Basin is
reserved for testing state-of-the-art submarines and
boats. But last week, the 22-foot-deep tank, part of the
Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division, played
host to experimental subs built by students instead of
Navy shipbuilders.
The
10th International Submarine Races (ISR) drew 21
college and a few high school teams from around the
world to see whose 10- to 16-foot-long crafts would
impress the judges and win — for innovation, speed,
cost-effectiveness and best use of composite materials.
The subs were propelled by one or two students clad in
scuba gear, who climbed inside the submarines and
pedaled.
And you lot thought I was taking the
piss.............
Niggs, put Boof down, it's walk time.............
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