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THE CHIEF STOKER'S LOG - OCTOBER 2007

SAA New Members  - Welcome Aboard

WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBERS - HAVE YOU SIGNED ON????   IF NOT, WHY NOT.  BEING A FRIEND OF THE ASSOCIATION IS GREAT, BUT BEING A MEMBER COUNTS!!!!

Jeffery (Pegs or Stu) Pegler. Thuringowa, QLD 4817. Former LSSTDSM served in HMAS Otama and Otway 1988 - 1993

Anthony (Tony) Collins, partner Dawn. Tewantin QLD 4565 Ex CPOERASM served in HMS/ms Token, Cachalot and HMAS Oxley 1963 - 1968

Robert (Bob) J. Miller partner Margaret. Vista California USA. Retired ETCS(SS) served in USS Thresher SSN-599, USS Patric Henry SSBN -599 (Blue), USS James Monroe SSBN-622 (Blue) and USS Sam Houston SSBN-609 1960 - 1978

Jamie (Robbo) Robinson Ardross WA 6153. WOETSM served in HMAS Orion twice, Otama, Waller and Sheean 1988 -2003

Peter (Pete) James Russell, partner Ruth. Coodanup WA 6210. Ex CPOMTP4SM served in HMAS Ovens twice, Otway thrice and Orion 1978 - 1992

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The following old tarts survived another year and have had, or are having, a Birthday. 

1st: Peter Clark
2nd: Bob Carter, Sam Brennan
3rd: Hazel O'Brien, Mal McQueen, Perry Holland & Perry Welsh
4th: Dave Gladman & Philip Roberts
5th: John Parton & Jenny Deeks
6th: Jock Howes & Stuart Grant
7th: Jeff Stein
8th: Ben Bundy & Ron Baker
9th: John O'Neill, Bunny Wilkinson, Gordon Hawick, Ray Jamieson, Jamie Robinson & John Beekman
10th: Robert Wilson
11th: Gus Gillis, Frank King & Graeme Klepzig
12th: Andrew Brewer & Terry Young
14th: Chris Gay, Colin Ware, Darryl Dick, Darryl Rodgers, Sean O'Dwyer & Stuart Munro
15th: Bill O'Brien, Peter Donovan & Neil Wallace
16th: Peter Wiskar &David Irvine
17th: Will Stein
18th: Colin Willey
19th: Ray Arthurs & Paul Tolson
20th: Rod Spackman
21st: Campbell Conn & Robert Macdonald
22nd: Allan Dangerfield, Lionel Graham & Trevor Angel
23rd: Trevor Wilson
24th: Barry Robertson & Ken Chilvers
226th: Frog Warton & Robin Thurston
27th: Andrew Wilkinson, Mike Shepherd, Shaun Haggerty & Ross Milton
29th: Peter Donzow, Luke Heywood & Kevan Calvert
30th:Ken Mills, John Tait & Darryl Kemp
November
1st: Russell Maynard & Peter Eilola
2nd: Stan Nimmo
3rd: Bruce Poole

Why isn't my Birthday here?  I hear this often, the answer is simple, I rely on Plaxo to help me manage the 1200 people in Up Periscope's mailing list.  So if you want to be listed, fill in your details on Plaxo next time I send an update request.

Birthday Calculator. After you've finished reading the info, click again, and see what the moon looked like the night you were born.

Sick List
If you know of a mate that is not traveling well, let us know. Remember, a little contact during these times is better than a visit from the doctor.

Derek Lilliman has visited Mike Pearson in hospital being treated for cancer and said that there was very little change and that he will probably be in hospital until round about Christmas!!. Derek said "The only thing you can say is that he looks better in himself!"

Don Delosa writes "Been thru the deep probe and am now scheduled for a seven week holiday commencing Oct 30th in Adelaide while attending R.A.H. for half an hour Mon - Fri for radio therapy. Looking on bright side, weather will be cooler, will have to drink scotch as I have tasted (sic) SA beer."

Sunday, 28th OCTOBER 2007

Last Sunday it was bloody cold and today it is bloody hot and humid, need rain badly so that I can see if the new tanks I put in are level and I did not put a hole in it.  I was concerned about the diameter of the tank when I bought it, it had to fit into a smallish area and was happy with the results until I discovered that the inlet at the top of the tank was higher than the gutter from which the water is collected.  I should have taken the height into account, although I have always argued height does not matter! This gave me a good excuse for having an afternoon nap, becoming less of a rarity.  Problem has sort of been solved, I have connected the pipe into the overflow, it will do for now............

Boof had a bad day this week, sick as a dog, he had me worried.  I thought that it was his heart again, but it turns out that he may have eaten road kill, there are a few on the road outside the hacienda.  He is better now, but the heat is knocking him about.  It is interesting to note that most email I get there is always a g'day for Boof, he thanks you all.

I am disappointed to see that involvement in SAA Branch activities appears to be in decline, as demonstrated by the low numbers attending meetings and some functions. It often has the Branch Committees asking the question "Why try".   Unless Members get behind their Committees and support their Branches there is little hope for the future. To demonstrate your support for the hard yakka put in by your Committees I ask all of you to consider the following:

  • If not a member, sign up now;

  • If a Member, participate in at least one event a year;

  • Volunteer for a position on your Committee, give the long serving (suffering) members a rest; and;

  • Get involved!!!!

Another bitch, I spent some time fixing up a few missing links this week and discovered that there was a lot of pages out of action.  Please let me know if you have any problems, I cannot fix them if I am not told.

Around the Traps....

Western Australian Branch
The Western Australian Branch will host the Remembrance day Service alongside Submarine Ovens, WA Maritime Museum, Victoria Quay Fremantle between 1030-1100 on Sunday 11th November.  The WA Maritime Museum is keen to make the boat available for visitors, family & guests from 1100 therefore there are no plans for a post service reception. On completion of the service members are invited to board Submarine Ovens with family and friends. Please RSVP Lloyd Blake if attending.  This service commemorates Fremantle’s Submarine Fleet that operated between 1942 and 1945 consisted of a total of 164 submarines of the American, British, and Dutch Navies based and operated from Australian ports with Fremantle playing the largest role. Patrols by Fremantle based Submarines accounted for a total tonnage sunk second only to that from submarines based at Pearl Harbour. Attending the service brings the lessons of history and demonstrates our support of Submarines as an important National security asset.

Victorian Branch Meeting
Victorian Branch secretary Boot Hatfield sent a friendly reminder that November's meeting will be held at the ESU, commencing 12 noon on November 18th. Committee will meet at 11am. This is a promulgated Business Meeting and any items for Business should be in the hands of the Secretary 14 days prior to the meeting. It is hoped that Mike Rikard-Bell will be able to give an update on AE2 after the conclusion of Business at the meeting. Should prove to be very interesting. Hope to see you there.

Queensland Branch
Rob Woolrych (Secretary SAA Qld Inc) invites any ex-submariners in the SE Corner and any who are visiting the area, a simple Remembrance Day Ceremony is scheduled for the Coorparoo RSL. If any of you are able to attend your partners are most welcome so please let Rob know if you are coming (and if you are going to be accompanied).  Those who have already said they are coming please re-confirm as the Club need to know the numbers for catering purposes so in all probability there will be some form of “smallie” eats and a few beers after the event.  The service is at the Coorparoo RSL is at 45 Holdsworth St, Coorparoo on the 11th November at 1100.

Rob has also advised that the Christmas function that was being organised has had to be cancelled for various reasons which is unfortunate. However, 2007 was a good social year and Rob said "We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible at the next meeting on Sunday 13 January 2008 were we hope you will tell us what you want us to do socially."

Queensland Treasurer, Bob 'Tug' Wilson, wearing the loud yellow shirt above, is still receiving treatment for his cancer and I think that it is this that has inspired him to come up with a proposal that I think you will hear more about in the future, a WALK for KIDS WITH CANCER.  The idea was floated at a meeting in Maryborough and there is a long way to go before it is confirmed as going ahead. Tug said "Alan Border did a walk in 2002 from Sydney to Brisbane at an average of 35 kms per day and I figure we would need about 6 weeks with a daily team of 10 minimum."  It would be great if this does go ahead and all Branches and submarine community sponsors get behind it.  Watch this space for more details.  If you have any ideas or offers of sponsorship etc contact me and I will pass them on to Tug.

National Secretary new email address
Members of the Association are requested to note the change of the National Secretary's (Peter Smith) email address which is now nsecsaa@wix.com.au.

An elderly couple in their 80's were about to get married and decided to have a Prenuptial Agreement.
She said: I want to keep my house. He said that's fine with me.
She said: And I want to keep my Cadillac. He said: That's fine with me.
She said: And I want to have sex 6 times a week. He said: That's fine with me.... Put me down for Friday.

Health Matters - important information
National coordinator Max Hardy reminds members that DVA staff have been instructed by the National Manager Primary Claims to consider a range of chemicals that could contribute to certain conditions for all Claims from submariners. Hence the need to identify ourselves on the Claim Form as Submariners. A copy of the Occupational Survey Report and the resulting DVA BusinessLine are both available in the Veteran's Affairs section of Up Periscope. The purpose of this BusinessLine is to provide information to delegates administering compensation claims relating to ADF service aboard Oberon Class Submariners under the provisions of the Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Act 1988 (SRCA) and its predecessor legislation and the Veterans ' Entitlements Act 1986 (VEA).

Never, put your banana in the refrigerator!!! This is interesting. After reading this, you'll never look at a banana in the same way again.  Bananas contain three natural sugars - sucrose, fructose and glucose combined with fiber. A banana gives an instant, sustained and substantial boost of energy.  Research has proven that just two bananas provide enough energy for a strenuous 90-minute workout. No wonder the banana is the number one fruit with the world's leading athletes.  But energy isn't the only way a banana can help us keep fit. It can also help overcome or prevent a substantial number of illnesses and conditions, making it a must to add to our daily diet.

Depression: According to a recent survey undertaken by MIND amongst people suffering from depression, many felt much better after eating a banana. This is because bananas contain tryptophan, a type of protein that the body converts into serotonin, known to make you relax, improve your mood and generally make you feel happier.

PMS: Forget the pills - eat a banana. The vitamin B6 it contains regulates blood glucose levels, which can affect your mood.

Anemia : High in iron, bananas can stimulate the production of hemoglobin in the blood and so helps in cases of anemia.

Blood Pressure: This unique tropical fruit is extremely high in potassium yet low in salt, making it perfect to beat blood pressure. So much so, the US Food and Drug Administration has just allowed the banana industry to make official claims for the fruit's ability to reduce the risk of blood pressure and stroke.

Brain Power: 200 students at a Twickenham (Middlesex) school ( England ) were helped through their exams this year by eating bananas at breakfast, break, and lunch in a bid to boost their brain power. Research has shown that the potassium-packed fruit can assist learning by making pupils more alert.

Constipation: High in fiber, including bananas in the diet can help restore normal bowel action, helping to overcome the problem without resorting to laxatives.

Hangovers: One of the quickest ways of curing a hangover is to make a banana milkshake, sweetened with honey.. The banana calms the stomach and, with the help of the honey, builds up depleted blood sugar levels, while the milk soothes and re-hydrates your system.

Heartburn: Bananas have a natural antacid effect in the body, so if you suffer from heartburn, try eating a banana for soothing relief.

Morning Sickness: Snacking on bananas between meals helps to keep blood sugar levels up and avoid morning sickness

Mosquito bites: Before reaching for the insect bite cream, try rubbing the affected area with the inside of a banana skin. Many people find it amazingly successful at reducing swelling and irritation.

Nerves: Bananas are high in B vitamins that help calm the nervous system.

Overweight and at work? Studies at the Institute of Psychology in Austria found pressure at work leads to gorging on comfort food like chocolate and chips. Looking at 5,000 hospital patients, researchers found the most obese were more likely to be in high-pressure jobs. The report concluded that, to avoid panic-induced food cravings, we need to control our blood sugar levels by snacking on high carbohydrate foods every two hours to keep levels steady.

Ulcers: The banana is used as the dietary food against intestinal disorders because of its soft texture and smoothness. It is the only raw fruit that can be eaten without distress in over-chronicler cases. It also neutralizes over-acidity and reduces irritation by coating the lining of the stomach.

Temperature control: Many other cultures see bananas as a "cooling" fruit that can lower both the physical and emotional temperature of expectant mothers. In Thailand , for example, pregnant women eat bananas to ensure their baby is born with a cool temperature.

Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD): Bananas can help SAD sufferers because they contain the natural mood enhancer tryptophan.

Smoking &Tobacco Use: Bananas can also help people trying to give up smoking. The B6, B12 they contain, as well as the potassium and magnesium found in them, help the body recover from the effects of nicotine withdrawal.

Stress: Potassium is a vital mineral, which helps normalize the heartbeat, sends oxygen to the brain and regulates your body's water balance. When we are stressed, our metabolic rate rises, thereby reducing our potassium levels. These can be rebalanced with the help of a high-potassium banana snack.

Strokes: According to research in The New England Journal of Medicine, eating bananas as part of a regular diet can cut the risk of death by strokes by as much as 40%!

Warts: Those keen on natural alternatives swear that if you want to kill off a wart, take a piece of banana skin and place it on the wart, with the yellow side out. Carefully hold the skin in place with a plaster or surgical tape!

So, a banana really is a natural remedy for many ills. When you compare it to an apple, it has four times the protein, twice the carbohydrate, three times the phosphorus, five times the vitamin A and iron, and twice the other vitamins and minerals. It is also rich in potassium and is one of the best value foods around So maybe its time to change that well-known phrase so that we say, "A banana a day keeps the doctor away!"

Submariner Gordon "Kaffa" Anderson, currently serving on HMAS Anzac, writes "Just been through The Log and noticed Sandy Freelagus' comment on the new Navy Camouflage Uniform (NAVCAMM's) we are being issued mid-2008.  The new uniform is designed to replace the old No.8's, Probans and a couple of other rigs we no longer need.

Will they be a benefit? Don't know yet. I'm now serving on ANZAC (FFH 150) and on deployment in the NAG, but considering the difference I see between us wearing Probans and body armour for Force Protection when alongside places like Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Bahrain in 47°C heat, compared to the RANLO people wearing the two piece AUSCAM desert pattern rig, I think this is a good move.

Mind you, in view of Sandy's comments about the "stupidity" of camouflage uniform for Naval Personnel at sea, notice in the attached photo what has been sewn on the sleeves. Should be good for a cartoon from Sandy, and a giggle for the rest of us.  You can of course put the photos in The Log so all can see. And please pass on my "hello's" to Sandy. You and Boof stay away from the wiggly sticks, and if you can't I'll send Sheral up there to take care of them for you!"

Commenting on the uniform issue, Fred Lawrence noted "I work in an industry where sea going attire is high visibility orange overalls. Even these can be hard to see when conducting man overboard training or rescue as the visible target of head and shoulders is very small. What dickhead decided camouflage is good for our sailors?"

Murphy's lesser known laws...............
1. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
2. Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.
3. Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.
4. Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
5. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong.
6. If you lined up all the cars in the world end to end, someone would be stupid enough to try to pass them, five or six at a time, on a hill, in the fog.
7. The things that come to those who wait will be the scraggly junk left by those who got there first.
8. The shin bone is a device for finding furniture in a dark room.
9. A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
10. When you go into court, you are putting yourself into the hands of 12 people who weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty.

Tex Ranger asks "I was unable to go to Sydney for the Memorial unveiling but quite a few of my members served in the Flotilla at HMAS Penguin and would like some pictures of it"  Can you help, if so contact Tex.

WA Member Mike Shepherd celebrated his Birthday this month and it prompted him to send some photos taken when he was much younger.  He looks dazed in the first one, I thought officer's didn't get a tot?

Allan Dangerfield wrote "Thanks for the Birthday wish, I didn't realise that I got a personal message, otherwise I would have given you my bank details and you could have formalised your wishes with a few sheckles. I have been following your exploits as a 'gentleman farmer' and it has always put a smile on my face. I hope you enjoy your lifestyle, and that you achieve all your ambitions. I also hope that the country life agrees with 'Boof'." Mate, I am a pensioner now, maybe you can give me the sheckles........... You got the 'gentleman' bit right though! 

Another to say thanks for getting a Birthday greeting was Jenny Deeks. "Many thanks for your birthday wishes, the character bears some resemblance to me, particularly around the waistline! I have been on a month long road trip with Mike to Central Australia, Coober Pedy and Gawler Ranges and arrived home today. Great fun and I cannot recall ever having a month long holiday, we can thoroughly recommend it. Camping under the stars, no news, no phone, no demands and a the simple pleasure of laughing and telling jokes all night long is something that I thought had died with my parents generation. Discovered this pleasure is still there and worth trying!" Mike and Jenny seem to have taken a liking to off roading... some say it is because he could never read a map.  I have been unable to confirm if this photo sent to me is of Jenny and Mike.

Adrian 'Aids' Jallands has sent the following from Tonga "Hope all is well up in sunny Queensland and the move was better than the picture you have painted in The Log. Things here in the Kingdom are good, we have just got rid of all the politicians after the Pacific Leaders Forum last week, Little Johnny didn’t come, bit peeved actually as I was to be one of Johnny’s Walkers for his early morning walks whilst he was here, never mind. On a good note, as I staggered into the Billfish (a local watering hole) the other Wednesday when I was promptly accosted by one ex POETSM Brett ‘Dolly” Grey whom I served on Otway with in 90/91, he went onto serve in Farncomb. He now works for DFAT. Well as you can imagine many an ale was sunk that night and work didn’t see much of me the next day. It was great to catch up with another Submariner in Tonga, suppose it only goes to show what a small world it is.  Anyway mate keep up the good work, gives me something to look forward to each week."

Regular visitor and contributor to The Log, skimmer John Hogg, has commissioned a website in an attempt to locate all the Junior Recruits who enlisted with him in July 1969 from the 28th intake at HMAS Leeuwin. Of this intake there were approximately 205 boys between the age of 15 and 17 in the original intake, however only 184 eventually passed out according to their booklet. Some boys were to become Midshipman at HMAS Cresswell via the Topman scheme, some had transferred to RANATE HMAS Nirimba for Apprentice training and a couple disappeared which we and RAN records cannot account for. John said "The intention is to celebrate our 40th anniversary with a huge reunion of the Mighty 28th Intake in 2009. Of course, the whole concept of a reunion can only be achieved if we find as many of our fellow intake members as possible." So, if you joined the Royal Australian Navy in July 1969 and went on to become the 28th Collins & Walton Intake take a look at the website.

Quick question, what side of your car is your gas tank? If you are anything like most of us, you probably can't remember right away. My solution is to uncomfortably stick my head out the window, strain my neck and look. If you don't do this in your own car you definitely have done it in a borrowed or rental car. It seems that the solution is simple. If you look at your gas gauge, you will see a small icon of a gas pump. The handle of the gas pump will extend out on either the left or right side of the pump. If your tank is on the left, the handle will be on the left. If your tank is on the right, the handle will be on the right. It is that simple!

Les Thurgood continues on his travels and reports "End of trip coming up. Leave Reunion today for Mauritius for 4 nights and get home to Melbourne on 30th. Lack of internet in Madagascar meant very little comms. It was only available at Post Office cyber cafes in the few larger towns. and only at the better hotels and cyber cafes in the capital Tana. As Reunion is part of France we are back in 1st world conditions but spent time at smaller hotels up in the hills which lacked connection apart from reception desk. And we were on the road sightseeing during the day as well. Time on Mauritius is mostly free time and the hotel we are staying at is quite luxurious with all modcons so will catch up email then. This one in St Denis, the capital of Reunion. has it available and as I am an early riser can get on the one screen no probs.
Madagascar was great fun but exhausting at times. Very rough roads in parts. But we did get to see a lot of its famous lemurs - 19 different types all up - and the baobab trees down south on the dry plateau near Isalo east of the west coast town of Tulear. We only did the country south of the capital Tana as far down as Fort Dauphin and one part on the east coast north of Tana."
I am exhausted just following Les's travels..............

Call for sunken submarine inquest
The release of a new book about the sinking of a British submarine 56 years ago, in which 75 men died, has led to calls for an inquiry into the disaster. HMS Affray sailed from Gosport, Hants, on a routine training exercise in April 1951 but never returned. It was found two months later 46 miles (74km) south of Portland in Dorset.

Author Alan Gallop claim the submarine was unfit to sail but the MoD said the sinking was investigated at the time and no evidence to support this.

Several crew members told their wives and families before they sailed that they had misgivings about [the submarine's] condition. Mr Gallop said he found memos showing officers were criticised for passing the vessel fit for sea as he researched his new book about the disaster, Subsmash: The Mystery Of HMS Submarine Affray.

John McDonnell, MP for Hayes and Harlington, Middlesex, has now put down an Early Day Motion asking for a re-examination of the circumstances.

Affray left the port on 16 April and submerged about 30 miles (48km) south of the Isle of Wight, but when it failed to surface the next day a huge sea and air search was launched.  The submarine was eventually found at 300ft (91m) two months later and was designated an official military grave.

The sinking has been described as the worst British submarine accident since World War II claiming the lives of 75 officers and ratings.  The vessel was never recovered because the depth at which it sunk and the distance from the coast made a full salvage operation impossible.

Malaysia Launches First Submarine
he Royal Malaysian Navy’s first diesel-powered SSK Scorpene-class attack submarine was launched on Oct. 23 at the Defence Conseil National (DCN) dockyard in Cherbourg, France. Malaysia will take delivery of the submarine in six months, adding to what some analysts view as a naval arms race in the region. The new submarine, the KD Tunku Abdul Rahman, was one of two ordered in 2002 for $972 million. The deal with DCN and Navantia (then Izar) involved two new submarines and one used French-built Agosta 70-class submarine, the Quessant, as a training platform. Under the agreement, the fore sections are built in Cherbourg by DCN and the aft sections are built in Cartagena, Spain, by Navantia.

The second submarine, the KD Tun Razak, will be launched in 2009 and delivered to the Malaysian Navy in 2010. The two submarines will be known as the Prime Minister class. Since 2005, a 142-member Malaysian Navy crew has been training at the DCN Dockyard in Brest, France. Plans are to base the submarines at Sepanggar Bay naval base in Sabah state on Borneo, which has been undergoing a major renovation.

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Nuclear sub commander loses job amid misconduct probe
The commander of the nuclear-powered submarine USS Hampton has been relieved of his command amid an inquiry into misconduct by crew members, the U.S. Navy said Friday. Cmdr. Michael B. Portland lost his post "due to a loss of confidence in his ability to command," the Navy said in a statement. Cmdr. William J. Houston will replace Portland.

The crew neither maintained inspection records nor conducted the required inspection of chemical levels associated with the cooling system of the ship's nuclear reactor, Navy officials said. The crew then went back and falsified existing records to make it appear the work had been done."There is not, and never was, any danger to the crew or the public," the Navy said.

Portland's demotion brings to 10 the number of people relieved of duty on the submarine in the wake of the misconduct probe.

Six personnel have been punished for forging inspection records for the cooling system, the Navy officials said Monday. Those six -- one officer and five enlisted personnel -- received a "nonjudicial punishment" after other Navy personnel discovered their actions, the officials said.

The Navy said Friday that one officer and two enlisted crew members have been temporarily reassigned to Submarine Squadron 11. Portland also will be temporarily reassigned to that squadron.

The misconduct was discovered September 17 but not made public until after completion of an initial inquiry. A fact-finding investigation is under way, and further action against Navy crew members is possible, a Navy official said.

The Hampton remains in port in San Diego, California. In all, the $900 million vessel's crew includes 13 officers and 116 enlisted personnel. E-mail to a friend

SUBCON 2008

To be held in Canberra on the Queen's Birthday long weekend, commencing

Friday 6th June 2008 

The Branch would like to invite you to the Australian Capital Territory and surrounding area to partake of our hospitality and to visit the many interesting and varied places contained within our region.

Visit the SUBCON 2008 website for details and complete your Registration of Interest. 

Depression is a killer. Go to beyondblue, a national, independent, not-for-profit organisation working to address issues associated with depression, anxiety and related substance issues so that you may help others, or maybe even yourself.

“There is nothing wrong with asking for help.”

  Come on Boof, let's have a nap and think about what we can stuff up next......................

Sunday, 21st OCTOBER 2007

Bloody cold here today and it gave me a good excuse for having an afternoon nap, a rarity.  Made some progress with renovations this week so I was reasonably happy with the progress made.  Water has still been my biggest problem and I ended up buying another pump which has not fixed the problem.  It looks like this week I will be putting on my plumber's hat and go searching for leaks.  The pumps work on pressure differential and I may have a leak underground that cannot be seen, wasting water and causing constant running pump. And me a stoker.....

It is distressing to hear that there are several new cases of prostate cancer being reported amongst members of the submarine community.  It may be that more are getting the checkup since we have been pushing the issue and cases are being found that would not have been otherwise.  Guys, go and get it done, it may be embarrassing, but it may save your life.

I was discussing the issue of SAA membership with a few guys a couple of weeks ago and one stated that he could see no benefit, he could attend meetings and most functions as a 'visitor' or friend of the Association.  The important thing that membership of the Association gives is access to the SAA Welfare Fund.  This is available to Members (only) or their families in an emergency, such as death etc.  It is also important that the Association grows, the bigger we are the more influence we have with Government, something that becomes increasingly important as our membership ages.  Are you a Member, if no, why not.  Apply today.

Are you getting my email?
I have over 1200 on the Chief Stoker's Mailing list and each week when I send out an email that the Log has been updated I receive between 30-40 notices saying that the mail could not be delivered.  This is pretty good, but it means that if anything of interest to the submarine community is sent, you miss out.  The reason could be that you have not provided me with a current email address, or, your computer is filtering it out as spam.  If you wish to receive email please ensure that I have your correct address and that your spam filter accepts mail from norm.williams@submarinesaustralia.com


From Trap One....

Garth Schmidt has sent a reminder to North Queensland members and those submariners that just want to catch up with old mates that a General Meeting is scheduled for the weekend of 9,10 & 11 November at the Ingham RSL Club. There will be pre-meeting refreshments from midday to 1400. The meeting will be called at 1400 and there will dinner at 1800. For those that wish, there will be a meet and greet at the club at 1800 on the Friday evening, and members will join the RSL contingent for the Remembrance Day ceremony on the Sunday morning."  Snow Schleicher has booked several rooms at the local hotel / caravan park for members that want accommodation down at beautiful Forrest Beach . Anyone that wants accommodation booked, please let Garth know so that arrangements can be made for you. Garth will also need to know numbers attending the dinner on Saturday evening, so the RSL can provide meals.

Bob Wilson sent the following photo taken at the Queensland Branch's annual 'out of town meeting' that was held in Maryborough, only 35 kms from Bauple, my new home town.  As previously reported there was a good turn out and a good time had by all.  I am the short one in a grey shirt on the right .................

The improved Navy News website is now online.  It acts and reads like a book, although a little tad slow, but is much better than the older version.

Bob Emery (Canada's SAOC West) advises that the current edition of the Submariners Association of Canada West on-line Newsletter is now available for your perusal ...

Wally McNamee has been mounting Medals since 1980 and has now established McNamee Medals as a Perth based family owned business which offers a personalised and competitively priced Medal mounting service.   Wally said "We provide Medal Mounting for all Australian and British Commonwealth Military and Service medals (some foreign medals may be accommodated dependant upon ribbon availability) as well as new ribbons from all wars, military campaigns and police and peace keeping actions up to and including the Australian Defence Medal, United Nations and NATO Medals.  We also Mount Medals and provide Replicas and Miniature Medals for Cadets and service organisations including Police, Ambulance, Fire and Rescue and State Emergency Services."   Call Wally,  or send him an e mail, for a quote and you will be pleasantly surprised not only with the price, but also with his turnaround time.

Tony Vine has sent this memory from the past. The venue was the HMS Dolphin PO's Mess about April 1977. Obviously the fashion police were not in attendance....

From Left to right:Sara Shepherd, Gus Mellon, Cathie Vine, Tony Vine, Ross 'Little Knobby" Clarke "Arabs Sister" Graham "Rupert" Murdoch, Pete Durrant, some Pommy bird (who put her head in the photo) Debbie Harris and Steve Harris
Kneeling: Tom Duncan and Peter "Arab" Clark.

Paddy and his missus are lying in bed listening to the next door neighbour's dog barking. It had been barking for hours and hours. Suddenly Paddy jumps up out of bed and says "I've had enough of this". He goes downstairs and a little while later finally comes back up to bed and his wife says, "The dog is still barking. What have you been doing?" Paddy replies "I've put the dog in our yard,  see how they like it now !"

Darryl Dick asks "In the last installment of the log, right above the "Health and Welfare" section, is a photo of four matelotes with I guess is a beanie. My wife thinks it's me, but it ain't. Not that I can remember back then, but it looks like Oxley in about '69. Can you let me know who it is to put the dragon to rest. Thanks Heaps."  The only culprit that I could recall was Gus Gillis and I have asked him to assist.  Can you?

Terry 'Coyote' Wyatt sent the following photo of a visitor that was trying on his Queensland safety boots recently. He added "You mentioned that word (snake) and we walked out there was this little fellow guarding my thongs, just a couple of days before the Grand Kids were in and out leaving their footwear there as well."  What's your problem mate, that is only a baby compared to the bastards that we get down here....

John Wood-Cowling from Corby in the UK said "The Queen opened a new memorial in the UK for servicemen who died in service since 1945.Included are the Submariners who died on submarines Affray and Sidon lost with all hands dived. Long overdue."

WA Branch member Dan Jordan attended the recent service at HMAS Penguin and sent the following report. "Well I did the trip to Sydney for the S/M 4 re-union at HMAS Penguin on the 30th September. Thanks to Pat and Tom it was a great success although the hospitality of the RAN must be acknowledged as with everyone else who contributed to a great occasion. With Admiralty pattern weather, the Sun shone beautifully from a cloudless blue Sydney Spring sky, the touch of a breeze adding to the feeling that it was great to be alive. As always the RAN and HMAS Penguin were the perfect host as they were for the life of S/M 4 and I say thank you for that. What a wonderful site for a base it is. Yes the flow of grey heads across HMAS Penguin gangway was a reminder of all the water that has flowed over the bridge. From near and far the ex S/M 4 crews came for the memories, to see old mates and see their presence recorded for history in the form of a memorial plaque and ‘T’ boat. It is located just behind the gate office stbd of the road side going in. Small but adequate and a big BZ for all concerned.

It was a trip down memory lane for me and all good, we only remember the good times I understand. From going across the gangway to the ceremony and then the Barby near the jetty so many pictures flashed through the mind with sound effects too. The lads singing as they marched down the road to the boats after a session in the ‘wets‘. Even the thud of the donks doing a standing charge came back. The sound of a dog barking in the background also filled the air as I imagined a certain black dog, Nigger, vigorously wagging his tail in greeting to his shipmates returning from sea. What a wonderful friend to the troops Nigger was. Yes indeed the jetty was filled with memories of commissions past and all good.

The ceremony went well with words from a number of former submariners and even FOSM (different title now) managed to be there and was welcomed by all for his effort. Some wives were there and even children, now adults, came along for the occasion. The base Padre also spoke appropriately and now there is a permanent mark of the S/M 4 history for all to see. Again thanks to the hard work and determination of Pat and Tom et al.

From the ceremony to a beautiful location near the jetty for a terrific Australian style BBQ as only Australia can do. All the trimmings with liquid refreshments were there and much dit sharing took place with voyages into the past. The klaxon sounded loud and clear. It was a great time for old and old even to ‘tot time‘ , a tradition now part of history like S/M 4. The inevitable ‘rum rats‘ were present with un-official ‘splice the main-brace ‘I’m sure. Pussers Rum was on the menu and announced in true Pussers style with the time honoured ‘pipe‘ , ‘Up Spirits‘. Yes indeed a huge BZ to all for making ‘it‘ happen and for those who attended to make it a worthwhile experience never to be forgotten. Thanks for the memories shipmates.

Three retired Tiffies, each with a hearing loss, were playing golf one fine day. One remarked to the other, "Windy, isn't it?"  "No," the second Tiffie replied, "it's Thursday."  And the third Tiffie chimed in, "So am I. Let's have a beer."

Tex Ranger of the SA Scottish Branch, currently on holiday in OZ, wrote "Had a good look round HMAS Ovens on Saturday shame it was a yank that took me through, but he wasn't that bad, very interesting."

ACT member Gavin Dwyer reports "I am following your example and retiring this Friday. That means I will not have an email address until I get an ISP at home. I am heading for the Vic goldfields for a couple of weeks to start with, and then the list of chores I have been saving. No excuses now."

The article in August on AE1 crew member Henry Haggis resulted in the following email. "My name is Brian McAndrew, currently working in the Middle East and my home town is Perth, WA. I would like to give some information on Henry George Haggis. He is my wife's grandfather and her mothers father, her name is Doris May Haggis and she is living in WA.

My wife used to work in Darwin in the late sixties and has visited the grave in question a couple of times. I have tried to find out what happened to Henry George a couple of times as his death certificate says that he was Australian but as we know, he was not.

There is an interesting twist to the story and I can let someone know some of it as I am still trying to find out what went on and how he died. I was trawling on the internet and this is the first time that I have come up with something definite on Henry. I would very much appreciate if his "file" that Tony Vine has read could be passed on to us." 
The request has been passed to Tony.

Two dwarfs go into a bar, where they pick up two "working girls"and take them to their separate hotel rooms. The first dwarf, however, is unable to get an erection. His depression is made worse by the fact that, from the next room, he hears his friend shouting cries of.."Here I come again! ONE, TWO, THREE UGH..."Here I come again! ONE,TWO, THREE, UGH!

This went on all night long. In the morning, the second dwarf asks the first, "How did it go?" The first mutters, "It was embarrassing. I couldn't get an erection."

The second dwarf shook his head. "You think that's embarrassing? I couldn't even get on the bed.

A retention solution for the RAN?
The Constitution was an American ship, but would guess that things wouldn't have been much different if she'd been Aussie. On 23 August 1779, the USS Constitution set sail from Boston, loaded with 475 officers and men, 48,600 gallons of water, 74,000 cannon shot, 115,000 pounds of black powder and 79,000 gallons of rum. Her mission: to destroy and harass English Shipping

On 6 October, she made Jamaica, took on 826 pounds of flour and 688,300 gallons of rum. Three weeks later, Constitution reached the Azores, where she provisioned with 550 pounds of beef and 300 gallons of Portuguese wine.

On 18 November, she set sail for England where her crew captured and scuttled 12 English merchant vessels and took aboard rum. By this time, Constitution had run out of shot. Nevertheless, she made her way unarmed up the Firth of Clyde for a night raid. Here, her landing party captured a whiskey distillery, transferred 13,000 gallons aboard and headed for home.

On 20 February 1780, the Constitution arrived in Boston with no cannon shot, no food, no powder, no rum, and no whiskey. She did, however, still carry her crew of 475 officers and men and 18,600 gallons of water.

The math is quite enlightening:
Length of cruise: 181 days
Booze consumption: 1.26 gallons per man per day (this DOES NOT include the unknown quantity of rum captured from the 12 English merchant vessels in November).

Naval historians note that the reenlistment rate from this cruise was 92%.

New Jin-class SSBNs on display
The two new Jin-class SSBNs discovered on Google Earth earlier this month have now been photographed in port by an anonymous photographer. The photograph, which has appeared on several Chinese web sites clearly shows the features of the Jin-class submarine.

Nothing is known about who took this photograph or whether or not it has been digitally manipulated. But if it is authentic, it appears to lay to rest speculations that the Jin-class would carry 16 missiles. Instead the photograph confirms the assessment made by the U.S. intelligence community by clearly showing the wide-open hatches of 12 launch tubes.

The photograph shows the submarines at an angle, which makes it difficult to precisely measure the length of the various sections. Furthermore, the second submarine on the other side of the pier is obscured by the submarine closest to the camera, making comparison of the two impossible. Yet, a comparison made from the satellite images on my previous blog show that the two submarines have the same overall dimensions.

The new photograph shows the sail of both submarines, which appear to be very similar. Moreover, the front submarine shows a unique feature on the top of the rudder section, which may be a sensor of some kind.

Overall, it is not as if the Chinese are trying to hide anything. Indeed, it is almost as if they want to show what they've got.

The two submarines join a third “JIN” or Type 94 class boat already accepted by the Chinese navy. However, these may be the only be two such submarines in service because the first submarine has returned to the ship yard for repairs after its initial sea trials earlier this year.

Each Type 94 boat was expected to be armed with 16 JL-2 long-range nuclear tipped ballistic missile. However, current photo images show that the submarine can only carry 12 such missiles.

The JL-2 missile is a modification of the Dong Feng 31 land-based ballistic missile. The JL-2 has the capability of carrying either a single three megaton H bomb warhead or three smaller 100 kiloton nuclear warheads. The JL-2 does have the range to cover most of the United States from the Type 94 operational areas in the Pacific.

The JL-2 missile has not been cleared for service so the current Chinese submarine force is serving without weaponry. At this point, only one test firing of the JL-2 from a modified test submarine has been reported, and with mixed results.

The Type 94 missile boats are not expected to enter operational service until after 2010.

It is also uncertain whether China will build any more Type 94 submarines because of problems encountered during the sea trials of the first boat. It has been reported that the Chinese were not impressed by its capability and where dismayed by the apparent ease with which it could be found.

The Chinese military has been upset for a while at Google and other international providers of satellite images. Researchers have found a number of Chinese military bases and equipment using the satellite imagery. For example, images of an underground hanger system at one airbase and an underground submarine base are both available on Google satellite.

In addition, Chinese air bases, missile sites, air defense sites, and warship construction facilities are available. These areas are generally off-limits for local viewing. China has threatened to penalize researchers who use these images of Chinese facilities. However, it is not clear how the Chinese government would enforce such charges.

Malaysia’s first Scorpene submarine launch in France
Malaysia’s first Scorpene submarine will be launched in Cherbourg, France, on Tuesday. The 1.04 biilion Euro (about RM3.4 million) procurement of two Scorpene submarines was signed in June 2002 between Malaysia, a French shipbuilding, submarine and naval services company, Direction des Constructions Navales Services (DCNS), and Spanish shipbuilder Navantina.

WW II sub oil leak threatens marine life
A Russian submarine in Swedish watersThe wreck of a Second World War submarine, one of many littering the seabed around the Swedish coast, has been found to be leaking oil, posing a threat to marine life. According to the Swedish coast guard, the submarine is a German U-boat which was hit towards the end of the war, and is one of 249 wrecks off the west coast of Sweden. Authorities were alerted by a local man fishing in the area who spotted oil on the water.

The coast guard says the wreck lies at a depth of 65 metres, and that the vessel had 113 tonnes of diesel oil on board when she sank.  The submarine also contains unknown quantities of lead in large battery units. An operation to extract the oil and lead is however unlikely, as unexploded torpedoes remain on board.

The wreck is just one of the many submarines and ships lying in Swedish waters. Experts fear the high salt content in the area will ultimately erode many of the hulls resulting in severe environmental damage.

ASC steaming ahead
ASC has posted its largest profit in 14 years, positioning the company to be sold for a premium next year. The Liberal government has committed to selling the company for up to $500 million if returned to power.

The Adelaide-based company is likely to attract interest after winning the contract to build at least three Air Warfare Destroyers for the Royal Australian Navy in 2005, in a contract which would double its 1000-plus strong workforce.  A fourth destroyer could also be built, increasing the total value of the contract to $9.5 billion.

The company also has the $3.5 billion through life support contract for the navy's Collins Class submarines which extends until 2028.

ASC, formerly known as Australian Submarine Corp, said yesterday its revenue in 2006-07 increased by 20 per cent to $312.4 million.  Profit after tax was $29.6 million, 60 per cent up on the previous year.

Managing director Greg Tunny said "unprecedented levels of efficiency" had helped the company's bottom line.  "We achieved 20 per cent growth in revenue to $312.4 million, primarily as a result of obtaining record incentive payments under the submarine through-life support contract," he said. "At the same time, our contribution to the Air Warfare Destroyer program placed the project in a strong position heading into its construction phase. 

"The two key profit drivers were an increase in volume but also our achievement on incentives." ASC receives a range of incentives based on the timing of work, the number of sea days the submarines are able to be at sea, and even its relationship with the Defence Department.

Mr Tunny said the company's revenues were expected to increase steadily as it progressed towards building the AWDs, with the ship lift to be finished by 2009, with another three to four years before peak production was reached.

A spokesman for Federal Finance Minister Nick Minchin said the Government would not speculate on how much ASC could be sold for.  A Federal Labor Party spokesman said Labor also supported the sale.

Divers take the plunge
Divers from Greater Manchester are helping preserve the wreck of the world's first steam-powered submarine.  The Resurgam II was designed and built by a Moss Side clergyman nearly 130 years ago but sank off the north Wales coast in 1880.

The submarine was the idea of the Rev George Garrett, a Moss Side curate and inventor, in 1879. The divers from Trafford removed debris and replaced a series of metal rods used to stop the hull from corroding. It is hoped the wreck will one day be salvaged and find a home in a museum.

The 40ft-long Resurgam II was one of two early submarines built by Garrett. He was a pioneer of submarine design and is also credited with inventing the diving suit.

He built the Resurgam II in 1879 as a follow up to the man-powered Resurgam, which he created in 1878 and which was nicknamed the `curate's egg' because of its shape.

Resurgam II's submariners had to shut off the furnace and chimney before diving but the superheated water in the boiler meant it must have been unbearably hot inside.

It was also very unstable. It sank as it was being towed through Liverpool Bay in 1880.

Garrett went on to design submarines for the Turkish navy and later emigrated to America, where he became a corporal in the US Army Corps of Engineers. He died in New York in 1902.

The Resurgam II has been lying at he bottom of the bay since it sank, without loss of life, as it was being towed to Portsmouth for evaluation by the Admiralty.

It was discovered in 1995 by Keith Hurley, an experienced wreck diver, and was designated under the Protection of Wrecks Act the following year. The hull is intact but is at risk from illegal diving and trawling. Some items have gone missing.

Resurgam is Latin and means: I shall rise again.

  Come on Boof, let's go for a walk down the creek.....

Sunday, 14th OCTOBER 2007

A bit late getting this online again, now that I am a man of leisure I have less time to spend on the Log than when I had a full time job. My plans for a total overhaul are on hold until I am more settled.

I attended my first Queensland branch meeting today, the first 'out of town' meeting which was held in Maryborough (about 250km from Brisbane) but only 35km from Bauple. About 25-30 (plus partners) attended and a good weekend was had by all.  John Head's local RSL was the venue for the meeting.  It was good to catch up with some old faces, especially Graham 'Porky' Porzucek (served with me on Ovens) who has not been travelling well lately.  He has lung cancer (asbestos) and suffered a heart attack earlier this year, but is in good spirits.  Other Ovens stokers in attendance was Clive Smith and Don Feet.

Ray Jamieson, in response to a birthday card I sent said "Thanks for the card much appreciated. That's 79 of the Burgers gone, funny how after 75 instead of lying about your age you start boasting about it, some deep Psychological thing there."  True Ray, I always lied about my age until I hit 60 and realised all the perks that go with age, I can now officially be a grumpy old fart and can abuse people at will, I get discounts for many things, I forget all the bad times (problem is I cannot remember the good times either) and my bad driving can be put down to age.  There are downsides though, I keep forgetting where I put things and little bits of me are falling off or getting very sore. Cannot wait till I am 70 to see what surprises that will bring......

Boot Hatfield has played on my dislike of slithering slimy things, not greenies, snakes. He said "Bung, we had a snake resident when we moved into our place, finally found the thing curled up in the laundry cupboard !! Not to worry, it was only a Tiger snake. We wondered why the cat took sick and died of snake poisoning. Apparently they have a fancy for toes when you are asleep!! Good luck buddy, and may all your worries hisssss at you." Who needs Mates!!! After getting this I came to the realisation that I was making life interesting, I normally leave the door open at night so Boof can go for a midnight leak, an open invitation for snakes to visit.  Doors now shut at all times.

Pottering around in one of my sheds (eat your heart out guys, I have three!!!) yesterday and decided to put up a shelf.  What looked like a perfectly good pole disintegrated with the first tap of the hammer, white ants or termites.  Investigation showed that it was a new infestation and I have caught it in time.  I decided to get some creosote to make up a mix to pour around the poles to prevent another attack.  Found out that you can no longer buy creosote, it is harmful to the environment.  Bloody hell, so are white ants and termites!!!!

Around the Traps

A recent enquiry in the Log has resulted in a response from the man himself. "This is Darby Allan (the "half submariner"). Paul Dann was asking about me recently so I thought I would "own up". I joined the Squadron as the Squadron ASW Officer in 1981 and served there until 1991. I did the S/M Sonar and weapon courses and quite a few others during those years. Because of my time in the Squadron and my arrangement of the 21st birthday weekend, Kim Pitt presented me with the half dolphin. (Main S/M dolphin badge cut down to one dolphin). I was surprised that it was not just a bit of a joke and everyone was quite serious about me wearing it as a true submariner. I did this with much pride! My time in the Squadron was the best time I had in 40 years in the Navy and the friends I made were for life."

Darby went on to say; "I left the Navy in 1997 and went into Test & Evaluation. I ended up working as the Test Manager for THALES in the Garden Island Dockyard. I am now retired and really enjoying my life. It was nice to hear that someone still remembered me and to see the replies that Paul Dann got back. Cheers everyone for giving me a grand ten years in the best Squadron in the world. Cheers, Darby Allan".

What do you call a smart blonde? - A golden retriever.
What do Coxswains use for birth control? - Their personalities.
Why do men want to marry virgins? - They can't stand criticism.
Why is it so hard for women to find men that are sensitive, caring, and good-looking? - Because those men already have boyfriends.

Peter 'Arab' Clark wrote "Thanks for the Birthday wish, had a great day with family. Also nice to see the reference to depression on the web site, people have to realize that 'depression' is not getting a pier head jump at 1600 when your about to step ashore and your on a promise! It's serious shit and we all need to look out for each other and know the symptoms., I'm positive we've lost many mates over the years due to this stuff. My attitude was that depression only belongs to greenies and communicators during action stations, never ever believed a hairy arssed old Chief Tiff could be struck by this crap.

However, mentioning the hairy arse, all cancer results are very good and many members have told me they've been and had the tests, three have come back positive but hopefully found early enough like mine. Still unable to find the cherry picker used my the surgeon and the OCCABA but, if you hear loud noise shorts from trap three you'll know I've finally passed them. Hopefully they'll get through the flap valve and hull valve."
Peter is right, depression and prostate cancer are no laughing matter and both are as dangerous as the other. If you need help with depression, get it.  If you have not had a prostate test do so, you may even enjoy it...............

Depression is a killer. Go to beyondblue, a national, independent, not-for-profit organisation working to address issues associated with depression, anxiety and related substance issues so that you may help others, or maybe even yourself.

“There is nothing wrong with asking for help.”

Another that responded to Birthday wishes this week was John 'JG' O'Neill "What a surprise, thanks for that. 66 and I am still working, and harder than I have ever done before!!"  Those that served with John would probably say (undeservedly) that he wouldn't have to work too hard to achieve that.

Further to the post regarding Tony Mol from Stourport-on-Severn who purchased a pewter mug..... HMS Taciturn ..1964-66 .. One to express an interest was Peter Hurford who commanded Taciturn during that time.  He has purchased the mug offf Tony for 20 pounds, a nice return as it cost him 5 pounds (bloody computer has no pounds sign?).

Kev Batty reports "Had a visit from TJ Carter last month, he was in town from PNG doing a course and we took our better halves and children to the Plough Inn at South Bank on Sunday for a feed and a couple of brews. I caught up with him again for a couple more on the Tuesday at the local RSL. He has been trying to contact Andy Pilbeam, who has a message on buddies asking about TJ's whereabouts, but the e mail address is no good. Any body shed some light on Andy's whereabouts so I can hook him up with TJ."  If you have contact with Andy can you ask him to contact me.

Terri Wooton of Oregon in the USofA wrote "Hi, I am writing with a very grateful thank you to your group here. I wrote to Mike Russell back in June of 2005, asking if he could possibly help me find my long lost friend, Jeff Pegler. Jeff was formerly a cook on the Otway and I haven't seen him since 1990 at Rimpac in Hawaii. I followed up once again last year to let y'all know that I was still in search of him and this week, because of your log post about my search, I have been re-united with my dear friend. (At least online and on the phone, we are working on a visit in person.) I had searched extensively, to no avail for many years and would never have found him were if not for you guys. Thank you so very much from the bottom of my heart!"  The power of the Log works again. 

What do you call two Mexicans playing basketball?  - Juan on Juan
What is a Yankee?  - The same as a quickie, but a guy can do it alone.
What is the difference between a Harley and a Hoover ? - The position of the dirt bag
Why is divorce so expensive? - Because it's worth it.
Why is air a lot like sex? - Because it's no big deal unless you're not getting any.

Met up with Sandy & Robyn Freeleagus at the Queensland branch meeting today, he looks younger than ever.  Both he and Jim Moon have been bitten by the Peter Pan bug.  In an email earlier in the week he wrote "Read in Up Periscope that Pussers are being issued with cammies. This opens up a whole new field of wonderment.

It's something like camouflaging the flight deck of an aircraft carrier (as they sometimes did in WW II). That is fine - but how do you camouflage the wake left behind the bugger ?

Can you imagine the following:
Chief: "Where's so-and-so ?"
Leading Hand: "Don't know. Since he put on his cammies we can't find him."

Will submariners get cammies in oil/dieso colours ?

What about cammies the same pattern as your pit matress - then when the messenger comes to shake you for your watch - he can't find you. (That beats Ninja pyjamas and your having to crouch on the deckhead while he's looking for you).

I can just imagine planing on the OMC wearing a slouch hat to keep the fluoros out of me eyes and wearing cammies camouflaged as the OMC so when you flame out, you can't be found to get hit over the head with a rubber encased torch.

This is great fun. I didn't realise Pussers even had a sense of humour. (Whoops I forgot - every time I was handed a draft chit they laughed). I forgot way back when they issued us all with dog tags "that wouldn't burn" when I was on Vampire (another army copycat move). We tried them out - they were correct they did not burn when a cigarette lighter was held under them - the bloody things exploded. Needless to say, no one wore them. At least when they moved to issue sailors with an army style uniform complete with peaked cap, belted tunic jacket, masses of silver buttons and white shirt and black tie, the sailors almost to a man vetoed the idea and it was thankfully dropped. (I was down Cerberus for this gem and selected sailors trialed the uniform and wore it for about 3 months for sailors' comments and reactions),

Anyone have any more ideas on how successful cammies on board could be or what other army gems we can adopt? (Apart from arming our internal tanks with 155mm cannon)."


What's the difference between a new husband and a new dog? - After a year, the dog is still excited to see you
Why do men chase women they have no intention of marrying? - The same urge that makes dogs chase cars they have no intention of driving.
Why don't bunnies make noise when they have sex? - Because they have cotton balls.
What did the blonde say when she found out she was pregnant? - "Are you sure it's mine?"


Terry 'Coyote' Wyatt has been on the move again. "I have been watching with interest your retirement, or should I say Half days putting in 12 plus hours a day. We were trying to work out where your closest beloved Bunning’s would be? Just before you moved over Helen an I drove our new car up from Brisbane to Cairns, stopping off at Maryborough. A nice place, but to go back this week end for the meeting is just to far. We have had a fortnight of Granparent duties, and the kids have returned to Bundaberg. We have spent a week in Bundy early in the year and visited all round there, but Maryborough is a must return we did not have time to see it all. You have your alarm clock of cows we have four houses being built around us so it 0600 near on every morning, the banging etc."

Why did OJ Simpson want to move to Brisbane? - He heard that everyone has the same DNA.
Where does a South Australian family go on vacation? - A different bar.
What would you call it when an Italian has one arm shorter than the other? - A speech impediment

Robert McGuigan has found time to bring us up to date with the Albury/Wodonga news. "Long time no hear mate! My fault I have been really busy doing a project for work plus my workload in human spare parts has increased about 20% from last years level. It all adds up to increased stress and heartburn and less time to do things you like doing rather than the things you have to. The old Otway wrecker (Ian Taber) has just returned from China and Singa's and reckons it was great. He's in the process of sloshing some paint around his pub evidently but I think he sent me a typo because he said he had 34 weeks to get it done, when I think he meant 3 to 4 weeks, or, maybe he's just a very slow painter; he was donk-shop personnel after-all and not really that adept at the old paint brush routine. Other news is Jim Redmond is moving from Holbrook to Cootamundra in the near future."

Seems that we have been infiltrated by skimmers.  Frank Hicks responded to my request for a French translation of an email I received.  He writes "Just read the log and was interested in the French translation, amongst other things. You could try the online translations services.
There is one here http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/tr that works well enough for you to get the gist of what he is saying. Keep up the good work. Always enjoy my weekly read." Frank was one of several that responded and I thank you all. 

The translation reads: Hello I am old under French marine having sailed on under sailor “DOLPHIN” of type “NARVAL " in the years 1960 and I am with the research of documentation and of the photographs on under sailors “DIESEL” and “ELECTRIC” of the years 1914 has 1980. While hoping to have a chance that a person speaking French, I would be very happy to continue to correspond with you and to contact with our association to continue our friendly relations.
Sincere friendships of FRANCE. - Cordially, Mr. & Mrs. Jean Michel GUIONET.

Any French speaking visitor to the Log interested in making contact?

Stephen Paul Hartwig is looking for Barny Barnett, he would love to catch up with him by email on (08) 9390 5372 or 0406890731. Stephen adds "It would be great to touch base with him."

Health & Welfare
The Pensions Consultant from Perth Legacy is creating a spreadsheet of the weights lifted by RAN personnel over the years. The list will be forwarded to the Repatriation Medical Authority to be used as a reference when sailors make claims for medical problems that may involve the lifting of excessive weights.

The consultant, Daryl Dunlop, is an ex Warrant Officer RP and he also instructs and arranges the TIP courses for Western Australia. These courses are funded by the government and include the training of ex-service organization Welfare Officer and Advocates.  It is hoped that the survey will benefit our shipmates in making successful claims or resurrecting claims that may have been rejected by the Department of Veterans Affairs. Replies can be sent to 5B Lacrosse Rise, Sorrento, WA 6020.

The following information is required.

Category/Rating of Sailor/Member Item Lifted Weight of Item kilograms or pounds Part of Ship Where Lifted Conditions Present e.g (rough seas, confined compartment, restricted headroom)

Canadian submarines future in doubt - suspended refit point to plan to replace subs
The defence minister’s office recently requested a briefing on how long it would take to introduce new submarines — a move that could set the stage for the replacement of the troubled Victoria-class boats, defence sources have told The Canadian Press.

At the same time, a key refit contract involving the compressed-air system aboard HMCS Victoria has been put on hold, an upgrade that, left incomplete, would mean the warship would not be able to fire torpedoes.

Both actions raise questions about the future of the four glitch-plagued submarines that were bought from Britain in 1998 under the former Liberal government and have yet to reach full operational status.

In the briefing, which was reportedly delivered by senior officials last week to Peter MacKay’s new deputy minister, the government was told it would take six years to bring new submarines completely up to snuff, starting from the moment of contract signing. A second defence source said a more conservative estimate of the timeline would be up to eight years.

The conjecture comes at a time when the Harper government is casting around for ways to bolster the country’s sovereignty over the Arctic. The issue of the Far North is expected to figure prominently in next week’s throne speech.

The four Victoria-class submarines are incapable of operating under the ice and naval experts have recommended that they be fitted with an air independent propulsion system, which would allow for up to two weeks of submerged operations in the Arctic.

But the refit program for the current submarine fleet has been fraught with delays. A couple of weeks ago, the navy revealed that the upgrades on HMCS Victoria will take almost a year longer than expected. In addition, the navy last year put off upgrading and repairing fire damage aboard HMCS Chicoutimi until 2010.

Firm completes £30m rescue sub
Perry Slingsby Systems Limited, in Kirkbymoorside, has just built NATO's "Rescue Submersible" - which has the capability to rescue 15 people at a time - for the governments of the UK, Norway and France. The submersible has been built to replace the vessel that was involved in the rescue efforts to save the crew of the Russian nuclear submarine, Kursk, which grounded on the sea bed in August 2000.

In a rescue operation, the submersible - which cost £30 million to build - can be flown by aircraft to the port nearest the submarine in trouble, after which it would be deployed on to a ship with lifting equipment.

The ship would then sail out to the area, where the submersible would submerge and dock on to the submarine's rescue hatch, from which it would retrieve the rescuees.

The 30-tonne, nine metre-long submersible was transported to Faslane naval base, at Clyde, in Scotland, where it will undergo further trials, which will also be undertaken at sea. The vessel will be based at Faslane, from where it will engage in NATO exercises at least once a year.

The submersible has been funded by the three governments, but the UK has managed the three-year project to design and build the vessel, with the main contract being awarded to Rolls Royce.

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  Come on Boof, let's go and kill some termites....................

Sunday, 7th OCTOBER 2007

A bit late getting this online today, been painting and time got away from me.  Not a lot to report though so how about some buzzes etc for next week, saves me looking for stuff.  Have had several phone calls from old mates to see how I am, nice to chat now and again.

Got my bore in this week, not cheap - - $4,400 to sink the hole 120 feet and another $2,002 for the pump.  Add $1,500 for a tank.................. I think I had better start looking for a job. 

The plasterers move in on Tuesday, more chaos, then more painting and then more floor coverings.  My next major task is to replank the deck, about 30 square metres, my knees are taking a pounding and I am sure that I will need them replaced when all this work is done.

Found snake skin and shit out by the back steps yesterday, I hope that he has not taken up residence under (or in) the house as that will be the last straw, you can stick your country lifestyle right up your ...................

Retirement is full of ups and downs and I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so I called Lifeline. I was put through to a 'call centre' in Pakistan which pissed me off but I explained that I was feeling suicidal. They were very excited at this news and wanted to know if I could drive a truck or fly an airplane....

Not sure if it OK to mention this without prior approval but I am off to my first Queensland Branch meeting in Maryborough next Sunday.  I am looking forward to catching up with some old faces and will be very interested in hearing what the Branch has planned for the future. 

Around the Traps

Andrew 'Blue' Galley reports that the ACT Branch finally, after a number of delays and quite a few problems, managed to get the SUBCON 2008 website up and running. He notes that it is "a work in progress", but the main pages are there and in particular the Register of Interest.  please spread the word of the sites existence and register your interest to attend.

Lindsay 'Jack' frost raised an interesting point on the new RAN cams. "G'day Norm, I have just got back on line after a fortnight without a computer (lost everything and am starting again from scratch) and read about the new working dress. Is it just me or can anyone else see the inherent insanity in providing a camouflage uniform with shiny stripes so as to be seen more easily?" Very observant mate...........

Kev 'Boong' Curtis noted "The fashion police that determine these colours never have to go to sea and wear it. Our Navy history is peppered with decisions that are made 'in the best interests of the members'. What moron thought of giving the Akubra (slouch hat) to a sailor at sea. They are a pain in the arse to stow in the mess-deck and are only used by QMs when alongside. Add to this the sailors having to carry two ceremonial uniforms etc etc. Thank God I don't have to worry about this anymore. Shorts, t-shirt and getta's works for me."

Dave 'Goldie' Horne and mate Michael are off in five weeks time to the South Pacific for a 14 night cruise on the Pacific Dawn! Dave said this is P&O's 75th birthday cruise and they have a balcony cabin for the trip.  Someone made a cruel remark that he has done more sea time with P&O than he did in boats...

A driver is stuck in a traffic jam on the freeway. Nothing is moving. Suddenly a man knocks on the window. The driver rolls down his window and asks, "What's going on?"  "Terrorists have kidnapped John Howard, Peter Costello, Kevin Rudd & Julia Gillard. They're asking for a $500 million ransom, otherwise they're going to douse them with petrol and set them on fire. We're going from car to car taking up a collection."  The driver asks, "How much is everyone giving, on average?"  "About a litre" replied the man.

Last week I had a post regarding Tony Mol from Stourport-on-Severn asking about a pewter mug..... HMS Taciturn ..1964-66 .. One to express an interest was Peter Hurford who commanded Taciturn during that time.

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Les Thurgood has sent the following update on his busy life. "Am off on a months trip to Madagascar, La Reunion and Mauritius tomorrow week. Not a singing trip this one. Was originally going off to Spain (Barcelona) to sing in August with World Festival Choir, but that gig was cancelled - not sure why. Took the opportunity to take this trip to Madagascar instead. Only a small group of 16 on a botanical tour. The tour leader is the owner of a rare plants nursery here at Mt Macedon, whom I have known for years. Most of the group is from this area. This is Steve's 3rd trip to Madagascar. He was the bloke who asked me to check out a plant on Rapa Nui (Easter Island) last year while I was there - it was extinct on the island until Melbourne Botanical Gardens found some seed which was viable and propagated it and resupplied it to Rapa Nui. Anyway, am looking forward to the trip - my first to Africa even if not the mainland and seeing some of the rare lemurs will really make my day. The side trip to La Reunion (French and not a colony) came about when someone suggested we try a visit there rather than beach time on Mauritius. So we have 4 days there (19 on Madagascar) which has a very active volcano. We still get to Mauritius due to the connections back to Melbourne only going 2 times a week. Of the 4 days on Mauritius we have one day free time - so beach it may be, though I think wandering Port Louis will be my preference. Rest is at the national parks - and I hope to see some of the rare feathered type birds there.

Will be off for a week on Norfolk Island again next February. Also next year I am off to Russia again with World Festival Choir in September - St Petersburg and Moscow one concert in each city of Verdi Requiem. Sung that many times - Sydney Opera House couple of years back. Also did it with World Festival Choir in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane 1994 with the late Pavarotti in the tenor solo part.

Looking forward to Opera in the Alps again in January at Beechworth, as this time we will be singing with Yvonne Kenny and Roy Best. Then in March will be in Mildura again for Opera by the Lock with Marina and David Hobson. Opera in the Market at end of March will be with Roy again, Tanya Fiebig soprano, and Jane Rutter - who is a fantastic flautist.
Just saw the ABC Talking Heads on TV before logging on tonight and it was with Yvonne Kenny.
Which reminds me i have to get on to them for a tape of the one with Marina.

Sang in a concert recently with CHIME choir here in Melbourne after Roy Best asked if I could help out - shortage of tenors (not unusual). Great group to sing with - only about 40 of them - and sang in the Mozart Requiem with Roy singing solo tenor part. Sat out the second half, as had not rehearsal time for Karl Jenkings Requiem (modern work composed in 2005) and Roy moved back into the choir for that. Upshot of that gig was being asked if I would be interested to do a 2 week trip to Italy next year with Chime if they did not have enough tenors. May be seeing Roy in Sydney this coming Saturday. He is in the chorus for Opera Australia's production of Dead Man Walking, and may get one of Roy's house tickets to see it.

I am actually going up to Sydney for one night this Saturday 29th and attending a Plaque dedication ceremony at the Naval Chapel on GI on the Sunday morning. About 5 years ago they set aside a chapel for plaques in memory of any sailor who has passed away. When I was there 3 years ago for the RAN Comms branch reunion, I noticed that my brother Peter - also an ex LRO - had one put there by his widow. Decided to have one put up for my youngest brother - ex TO - who died in 1988. Notification came from Chaplains Office about a month ago, and although Ray's widow decided not to go, I am going up for it."

Dave and Sandra Bryant have just returned from a 12 day visit to China and it seems as if he enjoyed it. "What a great place – Beijing, Xian and Shanghai. We saw all the familiar sights that the tourists go to, plus some terrific restaurants. We spent five days in Hong Kong with my son and his wife, who are both teachers in Tai Wai, which is about 10 Kms from Kowloon in the New Territories."  He went on to say "The magic of Honkers hasn’t changed since I visited as a sailor, in fact, my lad took me on a “run ashore” to Wan Chai. All the bar girls look familiar! – or is it we knew their mothers?" David, unless their mothers were nuns at the church that I spent all my time doing repairs and others humane acts of kindness I would not know them!!

A Brisbane couple was watching a Discovery Channel special about an African black bush tribe whose men all had penises 24 inches long. When the black male reaches a certain age, a string is tied around his penis and on the other end is a weight. After a while, the weight stretches the penis to 24 inches.

Later that evening as the husband was getting out of the shower, his wife looked at him and said, "How about we try the African string-and-weight procedure?" The husband agreed and they tied a string and a weight to his penis. A few days later, the wife asked the husband, "How is our little tribal experiment coming along?" "Well, it looks like we're about half way there," he replied.

"Wow, you mean it's grown to 12 inches?"

"No, it's turned black.

 

Can you help?
I have received the following email but my French is not quite good enough to be able to respond.  I gather that he is an ancient mariner and may have served on French boats. .  Anyone out there want to act as a translator for me? "Bonjour Je suis un ancien sous marinier Français ayant navigué sur le sous marin "DAUPHIN" du type "NARVAL"dans les années 1960 et je suis a la recherche de la documentation et des photos sur des sous marins "DIESEL" et "ELECTRIQUES" des années 1914 a 1980. En espérant d'avoir une chance qu'une personne parlant le Français,je serais très heureux de continuer de correspondre avec vous et se mettre en rapport avec notre association pour continuer nos relations amicales.
Les amitiés sincères de la FRANCE. - Cordialement, M. & Mme Jean Michel GUIONET."

LT Domingo Bernardo (US Navy, 1986-1994, USS Trepang (SSN-674), USS Daniel Boone (SSBN-629), USS Lewis & Clark (SSBN-644)) is looking to contact an old shipmate, LCDR (maybe CDR now) John Caccivio, US Navy, stationed Australia.  John's email address that i have bounces, can anyone help?

Eternal Patrol
The Chief of Navy advised the Naval community of the passing of one of the RAN's most distinguished Admirals - RADM William 'Bill' Dovers CBE DSC RAN Rtd. The Admiral died on the 3rd of October in Canberra.  RADM Dovers was born in Sydney in February 1918 and joined the Navy in 1932.

It is with deep regret that I report the death of Submariners Association (Manchester Branch) member RJ 'Bob' Hutchinson on the 28th September, aged 63. Bob served in submarines 1965-1970 in submarines Opportune and Amphion.

So, this bird walks into a store...
A seagull in Scotland has developed the habit of stealing crisps from a local shop.  The seagull waits until the shopkeeper isn't looking, and then walks into the store and grabs a snack-size bag of cheese Doritos.  Once outside, the bag gets ripped open and shared by other birds. The seagull's shoplifting started early this month when he first swooped into the store in Aberdeen, Scotland, and helped himself to a bag. Since then, he's become a regular. He always takes the same type of crisps.  Customers have begun paying for the seagull's stolen bags because they think it's so funny.

Guy Burton obviously has too much time on his hands and has found another interesting web site for Oberon submariners, Diesel Weasel, a site dedicated to the diesel submariners of the British Royal Navy. Webmaster is Andy Sugden, and the main part of the site (Footsteps) is a hazy recollection of his time on one of those submarines, H.M.S. Opportune. Worth a visit.

The President and members of ex RN ‘Submariners Association’ (Australia Branch) are conducting their Annual Memorial Service at Monument Hill, High Street. Fremantle at 1100 Sunday.28th October 2007.  Members of the submarine community are invited to attend. Light refreshments will be provided on completion at ‘The Flying Angel Club’ on completion but you are requested to RSVP acting secretary Tom Oates for catering purposes if attending the after service refreshments.

Ex RN submariners that served in the 4th Squadron at HMAS Penguin recently had the pleasure of a visit from FOSM and David "Roy" Widgington (ex Tabard, Malta to Australia 1960-1961, transport driver) sent this photo from the Plaque Memorial Ceremony, celebrating the 4th SM Squadron.

2007 Australian Citizenship Test
1. Do you understand the meaning, but are unable to explain the origin of, the term "died in the arse"?
2. What is a bloody little beauty?
3. Are these terms related: chuck a sickie; chuck a spaz; chuck a U-ey?
4. Explain the following passage: "In the arvo last Chrissy the relos rocked up for a barbie, some bevvies and a few snags. After a bit of a Bex and a lie down we opened the pressies, scoffed all the chockies, bickies and lollies. Then we drained a few tinnies and Mum did her block after Dad and Steve had a barney and a bit of biffo."
5. Macca, Chooka and Wanger are driving to Surfers in their Torana. If they are travelling at 100 km/h while listening to Barnsey, Farnsey and Acca Dacca, how many slabs will each person on average consume between flashing a brown eye and having a slash?
6. Complete the following sentences:
      a) "If the van's rockin' don't bother .......
      b) You're going home in the back of a .........
      c) Fair crack of the...........
7. Does your family regularly eat a dish involving mincemeat, cabbage, curry powder and a packet of chicken noodle soup called either chow mein, chop suey or kai see ming?
8. What are the ingredients in a rissole?
9. Demonstrate the correct procedure for eating a Tim Tam.
10. In any two-hour period have you ever eaten three-bean salad, a chop and two serves of pav washed down with someone else's beer that has been flogged from a bath full of ice?
11. When you go to a bring- your-own-meat barbie can you eat other people's meat or are you only allowed to eat your own?
12. What purple root vegetable beginning with the letter "b" is required by law to be included in a hamburger with the lot?
13. Do you own or have you ever owned a lawn mower, a pair of thongs, an Esky or Ugg boots?
14. Who is the most Australian: Kevin "Bloody" Wilson, John "True Blue" Williamson, Kylie Minogue or Warnie?
15. Is there someone you are only mates with because they own a trailer or have a pool?
16. What does sinkin piss at a mates joint and gettin paralised mean?

You may copy your mates answers, please submit this back to me when you have had a fair old crack. The pass rate is 45%

British sub visits Simonstown
SThe British and South African Navies continue seeking to strengthen links between themselves, the latest being the visit by the nuclear-powered British submarine, the HMS Sceptre, to South Africa's naval headquarters of Simonstown.

While British warships have made several visits, including as part of a recent major North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato) Maritime Group joint exercise, this is the first visit by a Royal Navy submarine in about three years. The HMS Sceptre is on its way back home to England from Australia.

The nuclear-powered submarine, which has been at sea for two weeks since it left Australia, can only stop at a handful of naval bases worldwide, because it requires special berthing facilities.

The HMS Sceptre has been away from the United Kingdom for eight months already and will return to its home base in December.

The stopover by the HMS Sceptre comes at a time when South Africa's submarine capability is being significantly enhanced, with the new German-made S101, also known as the SAS Manthatisi, submarine arriving last year.

During last month's Nato exercise, the SAS Manthatisi reportedly evaded the detection of a joint Nato and South African search parth that consisted of several ships combing the area with radar and sonar equipment.

Although not nuclear-powered, the S101 is a modern submarine and is one of three ordered from Germany as part of the strategic defence package replacing the country's ageing Daphne class submarines.

The HMS Sceptre, on the other hand, is a Swiftsure class vessel that is 32-years-old.

Perks said because it is nuclear-powered it could continue a voyage indefinitely, with the acquisition of food being the only reason for the vessel to head to port.

In the meantime, the British submariners serving on the somewhat battered vessel will be enjoying a two-day recreational outing in Cape Town, the HMS Sceptre's second-in-command, Lieutenant-Commander Justin Codd, said.

  Come on Boof, let's have a beer, it's been a long week.....


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